1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

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2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Tanner has shown well right from day one really. He has something. Having him in place…yet still Rosie traded for Pickett. There were several QBs to choose right at that moment also. Like Fields…and several guys. Rosie actually gave up more than any of the others ended up even costing for Pickett.

Fields cost the Steelers $3,233,448, which was significantly more than Pickett’s $1,988,900. And the trade cost the Steelers a 4th Round pick … more than the late 5th that Pickett cost the Eagles.

19 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Help me understand the point you are making. Except Linebacker, Fangio is testing DeJean at all the positions he played at Iowa. Why is that noteworthy?

So this point comes home to where Fangio totally no time for him to talk to the media….searches them out to make clear statement about Coop he wants in the Slot.

1 minute ago, mattwill said:

Fields cost the Steelers $3,233,448, which was significantly more than Pickett. And the trade was for a 4th Round pick … more than the late 5th that Pickett cost.

3rd rounder….where are you?

2 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Fields cost the Steelers $3,233,448, which was significantly more than Pickett. And the trade was for a 4th Round pick … more than the late 5th that Pickett cost.

Fields was a 6th

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It’s so much more than just this single piece even though here. You need to research just how most fans felt Rosie was setting everything up to go after a QB in 2022.

Fans? There is no evidence of more than one fan, you.

21 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Help me understand the point you are making. Except Linebacker, Fangio is testing DeJean at all the positions he played at Iowa. Why is that noteworthy?

So then all media already being fed a story DeJean play outside but inside when Nickle being used. Immediately….any controversy being shut down.

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Dig it up yourself. I’m the one remembering all of this.

Consider it dug.

But …Coop was taking reps outside. So….after Fangio publicly campaigned to keep him inside…we seem him first practice taking reps outside.

4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

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5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

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Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

But …Coop was taking reps outside. So….after Fangio publicly campaigned to keep him inside…we seem him first practice taking reps outside.

You know DeJean played all over the D in Iowa right?

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

All these things Hurts supposedly just couldn’t do…he instantly was doing with one season under Moore.

Throwing interceptions and fumbling. Moore’s high risk O.

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Our whole O reads and adjusted to the D. Just in 2024 finally. That’s not just Hurts. Clearly whole O scheme. It wasn’t there fir three years.

Wasn’t there before the 2024 Bye either.

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

My take FWIW. Last season Siri( *the CEO) delegated the O to Moore and the D to Fangio. he allowed Moore to run whatever O scheme he wanted to. We went 2-2 and the O was not reaching the potential Siri wanted. 1/2 way through the Browns game Siri had had enough and at 1/2 time he dialed it back. Along comes the bye week, O line, Stoutland and whomever also suggesting the present offense was not working towards their collective strengths. Siri heard all sides and decided the pullback would work to the team strengths and calm Hurts down from his run and gun college days. The RPO faded and replaced by more play/action feeding into our running game. Hurts settles into the KISS offense, the errors stopped, the picks stopped, the bonehead panics stopped. The O line was doing what they do best, protecting the QB and opening holes for Barkley. The days of 40 passes per game ended in favor of 25 with more emphasis on the running game and our newly acquired stud RB. It was a franchise changing decision. The rest as they say is history. Hurts found an offense he could deal with and love and his confidence grew. I suspect we see a little more passing this year because the running game is now always an established threat. Hurts learned from many sources and culminated in a SB win. That is how I saw it last year. If that is bad coaching I will take Siri all day long. The coaching was so "horrible" we put up 70 points with BACK UPS proving to me we can win even without Hurts. This doesn't mean I hate Hurts but rather the coaching for me can stay as long as it wants to. This is MY OPINION

Here was my post a few (well many now) pages back, so Matt and I are on the same page. Ham, of course, disagrees

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Just address the beginning first. Moore was told he was running his O. But Siri immediately walked that back to keeping good parts of his own O and terminology. So completey just wrong. Siri made Mooore create a whole new O.

You have no proof of that. It is just a fantasy of yours.

8 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Consider it dug.

How could you even find it? I wouldn’t even know how it could be dig up. Totally happened and was exactly the case.

9 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Consider it dug.

You haven’t even got the easy part to dig up right yet…we gave a 3rd rounder pick

11 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Fans? There is no evidence of more than one fan, you.

Perfectly wrong. I was almost only sole believer in Hurts….every other fan but me pretty much. Media…Rosie himself…

12 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Fans? There is no evidence of more than one fan, you.

It was exactly what most every fan and media source was feeling and believing. Geez…Eagles board here. 2021….nobody but myself believed in Hurts.

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

And his inital O was rejected and the 1/2 in the browns game. Then Siri told Moore we're doing things differently. Here's what I ant. get it done

Stoutland and the O-Line went to Moore and Moore made the change. Sirianni wasn’t involved. It was a very open process that was well documented by Lane Johnson and others.

Your fantasies are getting in the way of reality.

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So brand new O tested four games…exactly the sample to then adjust and evaluate things.

Not a brand new O. It was the same high-risk O that Moore had run in Dallas.

13 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Fans? There is no evidence of more than one fan, you.

Entire Eagles nation understood this was the situation. I mean you are arguing against such obvious overwhelming opinions Birds media and fans had…plus Rosie who drafted Hurtseven.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Perfectly wrong. I was almost only sole believer in Hurts….every other fan but me pretty much. Media…Rosie himself…

Not buying. It was a surprise pick to all as we watched that draft. Howie saw something we didn't? Yet no you claim Howie wasn't a fan of him? Why would he select him in round 2 then?

13 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

You know DeJean played all over the D in Iowa right?

Totally. I don’t question for a single moment Coop is confident in himself…and confident he can play outside. Which only opinion that matters driving this situation.

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Siri cost us the ATL game. Siri actually made a few bad decisions to start 2024. So really should have been 3-1 team losing to Bucs in heat missing too many starters to injury that day.

How did Sirianni lose the Atlanta game? I’m very interested to hear.