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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We run on third and fourth and ATL stopped us some how(like so very unlikely even that was possible). At least then D comes out knowing close out the victory is on them. Instead of just flabbergasted like every single person was over elite Saquan drops easiest catch.

All true and Moore called that play. It was the same kind of risky play he called for Dak over and over and over again in Dallas. Lots and lots of history there.

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1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

NFL market. It’s clear as day. Outside CB paid double as Slot CB.

And that is meaningful only if Jeff and Howie choose not to pay for value received.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Oline went to Siri

Proof?

Your imagination is playing tricks on you. Check out Lane Johnson’s press conference video.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You totally even messed up facts.

Where is your evidence?

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Siri so clearly took over that Browns game. Siri was facing getting fired with a loss to the Browns. But you some how believe Siri career on the line trusted Moore the guy actually was his biggest competition in the first place for the Eagles HC job….Siri relied on Moore in that moment?

No. I would expect that Sirianni relied on Stoutland.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I believe there were issues just with the new untested O

Not new and not untested. They hired Moore because of his experience and track record.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Money drives everything.

If you believe that then you should be Roger Goodell’s biggest fan.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You are way down to after. Yes Hurts proved himself and change the path of our organization right then.

And all that happened many months before the 2022 Draft. Your fantasy about 2022 Pickett is just that, fantasy.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

O just wasn’t perfected yet. Do players didn’t have everything on the same page. Totally different O with Moore than anything we’ve ever run.

Agreed. High risk and high turnovers.

5 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

NFL market. It’s clear as day. Outside CB paid double as Slot CB.

Who are the specific CBs? Which slot CB do you feel is underpaid?

5 hours ago, mattwill said:

But again you are failing to read the Pickett trade correctly … or you are choosing to lie about it. It was a pick swap.

Are you surprised about the spin.....lol

5 hours ago, mattwill said:

And all that happened many months before the 2022 Draft. Your fantasy about 2022 Pickett is just that, fantasy.

What did I miss about Pickett?

7 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So you finally understanding 3rd round pick we gave for Pickett?

Do you understand that we got a 4th round pick in return?

36 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Are you surprised about the spin.....

It was a …

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34 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

What did I miss about Pickett?

Ham says Howie personally scouted Pickett in 2021 and 2022 with the express intent of picking him in the 2022 Draft.

Ham can’t explain why Howie selected Jordan Davis and traded for AJ Brown instead of selecting Pickett though. You won’t be surprised to learn that he did try some agenda spin to wriggle out of that factual bind.

The agenda is strong in that one.

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Ranking the NFL’s Backup QBs of 2024: Nos. 32–1

Plenty has changed since the last time we ranked the backup quarterbacks for all 32 NFL teams.  Andy Dalton was dubbed the best backup 12 months ago. He’s no lo

To address Ham’s rankings about Pickett’s cost the 32 backup QBs in the 2024 season are listed in the above article. I will include their cost below from the OTC table. Which of these 32 players was a better value than Pickett who had a 14–10 record in 24 starts, completing 62.6% of his passes with 13 touchdowns.

  1. Jake Browning, Cincinnati Bengals, $915,000

  2. Gardner Minshew II, Las Vegas Raiders, $8,000,000

  3. Joe Flacco, Indianapolis Colts, $5,000,000

  4. Michael Penix Jr., Atlanta Falcons,$4,160,479

  5. Justin Fields, Pittsburgh Steelers, $3,243,448

  6. Sam Howell, Seattle Seahawks,$985,000

  7. Drew Lock, New York Giants, $5,000,000

  8. Sam Darnold, Minnesota Vikings, $5,000,000

  9. Jacoby Brissett, New England Patriots, $8,000,000

  10. Andy Dalton, Panthers, signed as a Free Agent, $4,967,000

  11. Jameis Winston, Cleveland Browns, $1,768,000

  12. Carson Wentz, Kansas City Chiefs, $2,775,000

  13. Joshua Dobbs, San Francisco 49ers, $2,250,000

  14. Jimmy Garoppolo, Los Angeles Rams, $3,044,306

  15. Mason Rudolph, Tennessee Titans, $2,870,000

  16. Mac Jones, Jacksonville Jaguars,$2,875,410

  17. Kenny Pickett, Philadelphia Eagles, $1,983,900

  18. Jarrett Stidham, Denver Broncos, $7,000,000

  19. Tyrod Taylor, New York Jets, $2,800,000

  20. Cooper Rush, Dallas Cowboys, $2,875,000

  21. Kyle Trask, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, $1,761,243

  22. Mitchell Trubisky, Buffalo Bills, $2,000,000

  23. Desmond Ridder, Arizona Cardinals, $601,944

  24. Mike White, Miami Dolphins, $8,000,000

  25. Hendon Hooker, Detroit Lions, $1,299,779

  26. Tyson Bagent, Chicago Bears,$923,333

  27. Davis Mills, Houston Texans,$3,422,473

  28. Marcus Mariota, Washington Commanders, $6,000,000

  29. Josh Johnson, Baltimore Ravens, $1,152,500

  30. Easton Stick, Los Angeles Chargers, $1.292,500

  31. Sean Clifford, Green Bay Packers, $301,666

  32. Jake Haener, New Orleans Saints, $1,076,520

A good post from the glass half empty perspective

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47 minutes ago, mattwill said:

A good post from the glass half empty perspective

11-Hurts got married 🤣

11 hours ago, mattwill said:

That agent is also going to talk to Howie and confirm that DeJean will be paid for value received.

Thing is you have to be talking about the League Market. Player and agent aren’t just limiting themselves to one option.

Mac Jones, Jameis Winston, Mitchell Trubisky, Pickett, Fields, Tyrod and Russell Wilson

15 hours ago, mattwill said:

You probably believe what you hear on Truth Social.

If you can’t even name the source it doesn’t exist.

Sure the NFL market doesn’t exist

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Thing is you have to be talking about the League Market. Player and agent aren’t just limiting themselves to one option.

Why do you HAVE to? Did Trump sign an Executive Order mandating it?

In negotiations anyone can talk about anything they want to.

Your comment deserves a IMG_8732.jpeg

6 hours ago, mattwill said:

Pickett who had a 14–10 record in 24 starts, completing 62.6% of his passes with 13 touchdowns.

  1. Justin Fields, Pittsburgh Steelers, $3,243,448

  2. Jameis Winston, Cleveland Browns, $1,768,000

  3. Mac Jones, Jacksonville Jaguars,$2,875,410

  4. Kenny Pickett, Philadelphia Eagles, $1,983,900

  5. Tyrod Taylor, New York Jets, $2,800,000

  6. Mitchell Trubisky, Buffalo Bills, $2,000,00

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Mac Jones — "Jones was once regarded as a promising young quarterback, only for his game to fall apart amid injuries, porous offensive lines and questionable coaching. That story was always a little too simplistic -- the Patriots did a great job of protecting him in obvious passing situations as a rookie -- but whatever confidence he had quickly fell by the wayside.”

Jameis Winston — "His hilarious insubordination in the Saints' season finale notwithstanding, Winston has barely played since Sean Payton left town. Still just 30, he's got more talent and experience than almost any backup option out there.”

Mitchell Trubisky — "Trubisky, 29, offers experience and a mobile option to fill in for Allen if needed. In seven seasons, Trubisky has started 57 games, thrown for 12,536 yards, 72 touchdowns and 48 interceptions.  However, his 2023 Won-Lost record was 0-5”

Pickett

Fields — "This might not be Fields' last chance as a starter, but it's probably his last chance at entering an offseason with a meaningful guarantee to start somewhere.” That doesn’t sound like a good mesh with Hurts.

Tyrod Taylor — "Turning 36 in August, Taylor has carved out a solid career after being selected in the sixth round by Baltimore in 2011. In 14 years, Taylor has started 58 games, including five in 2023 with the New York Giants. His ability to move an offense when needed, but not upset the apple cart as a backup, makes him an ideal veteran in the QB room. Taylor signed a two-year contract with the New York Jets in 2024, valued at $12 million. This contract includes a $4 million signing bonus and $8.5 million guaranteed. The total value of the contract could reach $18 million with incentives.“. Probably the best choice if he weren’t so expensive.

Russell Wilson — "This list is made independent of contract demands. But even if Wilson ends up being as inexpensive as a mid-tier backup, I worry about how he'll transition into the life of abridge/backup quarterback. That's the role his level of play indicates he should have.

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