1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Can’t say well…started out 2-2. And not have that questioned as the Bucs loss being a major reasoning to define our whole season.

You guys are arguing off in Never Never Land … both of you. Lane and the O-Line didn’t come forward because of 2-2 or any one game. They came forward because they felt that Moore’s high- rush scheme was not taking advantage of the Eagles greatest strength … the ability of the O-Line to impose its will on the opposing team. Pass Blocking is passive and reactive. The first step is backward, Run blocking is aggressive and proactive. The first step is forward. The O-Line punishes the Defense in run blocking. The Defense punishes the O-Line in pass blocking. That was demonstrated to perfection in the Super Bowl.

26 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Not a brand new O. It was the same high-risk O that Moore had run in Dallas.

It wasn’t Dallas O we witnessed for years. But yeah…Siri didn’t have many plays…so mostly would be Moore additions there.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Read all your statements. Nothing else to be concluded surrounding your opinions on that.

You are very good at jumping to conclusions.

27 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Not buying. It was a surprise pick to all as we watched that draft. Howie saw something we didn't? Yet no you claim Howie wasn't a fan of him? Why would he select him in round 2 then?

He wasn’t considered our franchise QB in 2021 really all that we’re saying

Heck 2021 team wasn’t good. So no QB should have survived that whole situation.

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

It's getting so stupid I'm not going to even answer this made up BS

That is a good idea. You two are talking past one another.

29 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Right what was the bye week ,But Siri was already aware there were issues with Moores offense. I feel Siri told Moore to change his philosophy after the meeting with them all

I believe there were issues just with the new untested O

30 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Right what was the bye week ,But Siri was already aware there were issues with Moores offense. I feel Siri told Moore to change his philosophy after the meeting with them all

Easy for the O to get on the same page and attack run blocking. Much less mental mistakes possibilities.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

No you never do. Just one play only…Hurts mistake. Without even once mentioning any of all that context creating the situation. Tons of pressure. 3rd and 1…automatic. 3rd and 6 was Hurts was forced to be special and make a play.

Ham, did the play happen? You are working very hard to convince yourself that it never happened. Everybody makes mistakes. That play was full of mistakes. It happened.

It is time to move on. That play and that game are ancient history.

30 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

His agent has nothing to do with where Fangio chooses to play him. Keep your best players on the field is a good strategy

Money drives everything.

24 minutes ago, mattwill said:

In 2021 Hurts stepped in and stepped up. There was no reason to be thinking QB in the 2022 Draft. Thinking about Jordan Davis and thinking about AJ Brown. That was what Howie was thinking about after 2021’s results. Have you been watching the Eagles very long?

Scouting and acquiring all those first round picks all happened before Hurts did all that.

26 minutes ago, mattwill said:

In 2021 Hurts stepped in and stepped up. There was no reason to be thinking QB in the 2022 Draft. Thinking about Jordan Davis and thinking about AJ Brown. That was what Howie was thinking about after 2021’s results. Have you been watching the Eagles very long?

You are way down to after. Yes Hurts proved himself and change the path of our organization right then.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Would you explain to me any scenario without Hurts spectacular play that SB how the Chiefs don’t just roll over dominating and crushing us..,

Why is that relevant?

10 minutes ago, mattwill said:

You are very good at jumping to conclusions.

It’s been all he’s done since 2021 offseason. I mean it’s just pathetic he even attempts to deny. Pure fact!

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Wasn’t it the QB did well in Minnesota last year also.

He did indeed and he cost the Vikings $5,000,000 while Pickett cost the Eagles $1,983,900.

6 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Ham, did the play happen? You are working very hard to convince yourself that it never happened. Everybody makes mistakes. That play was full of mistakes. It happened.

It is time to move on. That play and that game are ancient history.

Nope I’m just that albatross here that admits it happened and was a mistake.

14 minutes ago, mattwill said:

You guys are arguing off in Never Never Land … both of you. Lane and the Zo-Line didn’t come forward because of 2-2 or any one game. They came forward because they felt that Moore’s high- rush scheme was not taking advantage of the Eagles greatest strength … the ability of the O-Line to impose its will on the opposing team. Pass Blocking is passive and reactive. The first step is backward, Run blocking is aggressive and proactive. The first step is forward. The O-Line punishes the Defense in run blocking. The Defense punishes the O-Line in pass blocking. That was demonstrated to perfection in the Super Bowl.

O just wasn’t perfected yet. Do players didn’t have everything on the same page. Totally different O with Moore than anything we’ve ever run.

So I don’t know so much about risk. Think it was more just about whole O getting together in the new O:

3 minutes ago, mattwill said:

He did indeed and he cost the Vikings $5,000,000 while Pickett cost the Eagles $1,983,900.

Talking draft picks cost for trade. 3rd rounder

12 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Ham, did the play happen? You are working very hard to convince yourself that it never happened. Everybody makes mistakes. That play was full of mistakes. It happened.

It is time to move on. That play and that game are ancient history.

Yep play happened. Over and over again. Most discussed play of that whole Sb by a mile.

13 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Ham, did the play happen? You are working very hard to convince yourself that it never happened. Everybody makes mistakes. That play was full of mistakes. It happened.

It is time to move on. That play and that game are ancient history.

A guy that only can mention that to tear down our leader about that game is clearly just HurtsHater…

7 minutes ago, mattwill said:

He did indeed and he cost the Vikings $5,000,000 while Pickett cost the Eagles $1,983,900.

So you finally understanding 3rd round pick we gave for Pickett?

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

3rd is significant to give for a bust

It wasn’t a 3rd by itself. It was a swap of picks that equalled a late 5th Round pick. You need to do your homework better.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Eagles fans overwhelmingly weren’t in favor of Hurts. Most all believed the acquired extra draft picks for next season were designed to go get a QB.

So what? What power do fans have? None. All we can do is sit back and watch. What we think is irrelevant.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

See this isn’t relevant very much. I saw we had a decent backup though unproven in Tanner. So shouldn’t have been out of desperation.

Wasn’t out of desperation. Cost us a late 5th Round pick and less than $2 million for the year. What contending team paid that little for its backup QB?