2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

He is sitting behind their starters. Once again the failure of other teams doesn't concern me

Which he’ll be sitting behind ours here as well….or we are in trouble.

FL…respect your TE knowledge and wisdoms. Don’t want that to be misunderstood. But think you’d really enjoy scouting through our depth TE options we have currently on the squad.

Heard some real good things about Nick Muse at OTAs. He might be the deepest sleeper of all the TE options at that.

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

NONE of our present TE's is 6'7 and 282. if you can't find an advantage with that give up scouting

So what’s he done in college and the pros?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

So what’s he done in college and the pros?

Equates to a Stoll upgrade..about it. But I do understand and don’t deny looking at his potential. Tons of that.

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

NONE of our present TE's is 6'7 and 282. if you can't find an advantage with that give up scouting

Yet…why hasn’t that natural gifted size advantage already translated to so much more production?

22 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

This kid ranked SECOND in that draft. LaPorta was ranked SIXTH. Pitts isn't looking for blockers,they want TE's as offensive weapons. They don't see what they should in this kid. How other teams fail is not my concern

Steelers haven’t failed in finding better options than this kid. They failed in the day two draft investment in HIM.

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I did some,I want to see who we keep first,but the fact remains none are 6'7 and 282 who can BLOCK(an 82 block rating when most draftees are low 60's)

It’s too early to define this kids whole career already IMO. So I’m not trying to completely do all that. But feel his unbelievable huge ceiling of potential he was so touted over as a high school recruit all the way through the NFL draft is diminishing at this point. He’s just never going to become a quality starting caliber TE at this point. I am ready to codemn that much now.

5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/big-boards/2023/consensus-big-board-2023?pos=TE You decide LOL

Yes…I did…in real time…..overwhelmingly supported LaPorta at guy…if you recall. Definitely sticking with my original assessment.

6 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/big-boards/2023/consensus-big-board-2023?pos=TE You decide LOL

My decision is OVERRATED…by far at 40….verdict is in. Terrible point you attempted there. Following along like a lemming with others bad assessment …something I just don’t have any part in. However many ‘experts’ ranked him as 40th ranked overall player…with LaPorta at 55? They were all terribly wrong. Terribly..terribly…so wrong. Was just that obvious to me before that draft even took place.

27 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

There were 3 you wanted in round 3 that went much later,now you are denying that?

Fannin was the first pick of round three. Mason Taylor went early round two. Arroyo went round two. C’mon man. Easy stuff to just look up here.

6 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We covet BLOCKING TE's much more than other teams You have to look at how players FIT and he fits like a glove. We don't ask our TE's for 1000 yard seasons

I just don’t look at things so rigidly. I can see ways to utilize most any talent any players bring to the table. I understand how much a receiving threat weapon can actually open up and assist the run game. It’s not all leather helmet must go heavy and block our way to gain rushing yardage. A guy that’s a threat in the passing game demands respect and coverage. That’s a defender not focused in on stopping the run. Heck maybe even get a S or other second defender held up by one step from breaking against the run because of a receiving threat.

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

So why didn;t we grab one if they are so good?

I didn’t say they were all..all that. Actually my point was more believed the problem was they were likely going too high for us to grab.

But…easy answer for you…some how you missed how we kept this guy named Dallas Goedert instead of trading him away. Which I believe was partly because of the TE draft situation and how it was to unfold.

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So why didn;t we grab one if they are so good?

Didn’t really say the guys we could get were sooo good. Kind of pointed out how there was depth. How each guy kind of had is ways and things he could do and he used for. Top two guys were the studs to grab for sure. But we weren’t going to pay the huge trade price it would have taken.

8 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

But you can't possibly be wrong about him????? Got it

Wait now…I clearly stated too early to completely define his career already. Not even saying you are totally wrong about him or any of that. Yes…he’s huge…yes he has potential. I just jumped in about nowhere near giving up a third round pick for that guy.

If you remember it was my idea to trade for Jahan Dotson. We gave up a third and 2 sevenths while getting back Washington’s 5th. So volunteer this move for you. Not looking as great as I had hoped so far for sure. I’m far from perfect. But…note I still am not giving up on Dotson. Thing really is about the need. Rosie just hasn’t been able to grab that third WR option..,though infinite attempts he’s made trying.

14 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

BTW if Pitts knows anything at all, you aren't taking this kid off them for a round 6. They may not want to part with him at all.

Could be a situation where disgruntled player will ill team for forces the move to trade him though. Example: Pickett.

Not sure how to judge the Steelers about this. It’s bad draft choices. But they really seem to have evolved more than most other teams into not being dead set on forcing guys that just don’t pan out.

46 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

3rd string with the ceiling to be a 1? You wouldn't take that gamble? Pitts may NOT even want to part with him,but it's worth a phone call

I don’t see the ceiling of number one. Third stringer…with potential…only 24…so could still really improve. Thing is….doesn't need slight improvement….needs drastic improvement.

FL…I’d note…Pittsburgh would be the team possibly has valued blocking TEs even more than us. They always loved to power physical run the ball almost all of my life.

19 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

But you can't possibly be wrong about him????? Got it

Nope…don’t think at this point I was wrong at all. Feels very much proven at this point. 40th overall FL…c’mon…for two dozen catches? Way overrated. 40…OVERALL

20 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

But you can't possibly be wrong about him????? Got it

What are you talking about even then? If he wasn’t completed overwater to draft at 40…,then how could you even mention reading for him for his third season? Wasn’t worth 150th pick. That’s fact at those point.

23 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

But you can't possibly be wrong about him????? Got it

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/L/LaPoSa01.htm

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/L/LaPoSa01.htm

Doesn’t feel like I need to even entertain making anymore of a case surrounding my thoughts about that TE class. Absolutely no comparison between LaPorta and Washington,

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Took a LONG time before your boy discovered the middle of the field, he graduated last season. There was no sense investing big in a slot for 1-2 targets per game

Took putting decent options in the middle. Moore just moved Smitty and AJ to the middle…then BOOM…we produce over the middle. Have to say actually adding that 13 and 14th pass play to the playbook of Siri’s with guys crossing also helped.