Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Year one under Siri…you could sort of get away with that BS. Maybe even year two. But that’s completely blown out of the water after year four. All these things appeared in a single season after hiring Moore. Arguably more growth and accomplishment across our entire O than the first three seasons under Siri combined.

I’m not even seeing any room or territory for this to be arguable. Plain obvious and glaring fact. Problem has been Hurts always was stuck under Siri. That’s why nobody could exactly state concrete what was a Hurts difficulty versus a coaching difficulty. It was arguable at least. Because just never got to see anything else. Steichen was the early clear obvious sign about the situation. 2-5 terrible team ….under Siri….turned around and overcame Siri to make the playoffs. But year four? Moore showed arguably even larger and wider spreading results. Not …O genius and brilliance. No…basic pro level O stuff was all. Saw actual coaching…

Audibles, countering answers. Playcalling and scripted gameplans were actual awful. But…Moore had the answers. Get out of his terrible playcall into(fill in the blank). Rewatch last season. It’s crazy how high of percentage our key plays each game were results of audibles.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Audibles, countering answers. Playcalling and scripted gameplans were actual awful. But…Moore had the answers. Get out of his terrible playcall into(fill in the blank). Rewatch last season. It’s crazy how high of percentage our key plays each game were results of audibles.

But just brought the whole O reading the D together. Again…basic Pro O stuff. Receiver adjusts accordingly makes so much difference.

The O scheme was Hurts escapes pressure to buy time to make the big play down field to AJ or Smitty. 2023 O in a nutshell. Oh wait…Siri provided one audible..screen pass. Rewatch those games before last season. Whole D knew our plays very often. Deep…or screen. Three run plays for the RB and three for the QB.

Just added differing plays out of each alignment. Boom…D didn’t know our playcall anymore. Added a few audibles…so if we called audible? It didn’t just equate to not going deep throwing the screen. The opponents were totally presnap overloading the look of QB better audible to screen. But as soon as he did? They all came right down all over it.

Every coach has moments. AR…Fangio…opponents have figured out moments of them being predictable. That just happens. Best of the best. But Siri wasn’t caught coming out of TC week one looking predictable. He wasn’t figured out to have such weak variance on audible options week two. These weaknesses weren’t just exposed in a game. Not even back to back games from the blueprint being laid out there. Siri just actually kept doing the same things after being so exposed in 2023. Hurts getting killed taking huge shot after huge shot….no doubts cobwebbed and concussed…or let’s just say far from most clear thinking. Siri kept calling long developing pass plays. Exposed his answer audible was screen pass. Not one game…not two. The entire rest of the 2023 season. Frankly until eternity. He had no answers.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Every coach has moments. AR…Fangio…opponents have figured out moments of them being predictable. That just happens. Best of the best. But Siri wasn’t caught coming out of TC week one looking predictable. He wasn’t figured out to have such weak variance on audible options week two. These weaknesses weren’t just exposed in a game. Not even back to back games from the blueprint being laid out there. Siri just actually kept doing the same things after being so exposed in 2023. Hurts getting killed taking huge shot after huge shot….no doubts cobwebbed and concussed…or let’s just say far from most clear thinking. Siri kept calling long developing pass plays. Exposed his answer audible was screen pass. Not one game…not two. The entire rest of the 2023 season. Frankly until eternity. He had no answers.

I don’t think I’m some O genius by any standards. But the situation under Siri probably almost made me come off acting like I was. Just because these answers and stuff was just so very basic. No football genius needed….easy.

Pros expose everybody pretty much at one time or another. Those that can’t adapt die. Like Mike Vick. As soon as he was exposed it was over. No coaching really covering it giving that.

4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You got this from his own quote? You put his thoughts on me now? I don’t blame him at all. If I had that kind of talent ability and size? I’d be very focused on my career legacy. Want to go down as one of the all time greats and be an elite level HOF. You can see plenty if top level guys think this way. Like AJ…you can tell his legacy means so much to him.

No I got all the individual honors focus from your quote. Career legacy is your obsession.

If you asked AJ which is more important, personal stats or winning a Lombardi, or multiple Lombardi’s, which do you believe he would choose?

41 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Every coach has moments. AR…Fangio…opponents have figured out moments of them being predictable. That just happens. Best of the best. But Siri wasn’t caught coming out of TC week one looking predictable. He wasn’t figured out to have such weak variance on audible options week two. These weaknesses weren’t just exposed in a game. Not even back to back games from the blueprint being laid out there. Siri just actually kept doing the same things after being so exposed in 2023. Hurts getting killed taking huge shot after huge shot….no doubts cobwebbed and concussed…or let’s just say far from most clear thinking. Siri kept calling long developing pass plays. Exposed his answer audible was screen pass. Not one game…not two. The entire rest of the 2023 season. Frankly until eternity. He had no answers.

Ham, if Sirianni had/has no answers, why have his teams won 7 out of every 10 games they have played? Why is his won-lost record the 4th best in NFL history … on a par with Vince Lombardi and John Madden, and better than Bill Bellichik and Andy Reid?

When the clock reaches 0:00 and your team has more points than the other team, you obviously had answers.

32 minutes ago, mattwill said:

No I got all the individual honors focus from your quote. Career legacy is your obsession.

If you asked AJ which is more important, personal stats or winning a Lombardi, or multiple Lombardi’s, which do you believe he would choose?

Or ask Hurts

7 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

BTW- Pitts used a 3 on him (93) so I would offer them a 3rd or 4th/6th. Whatever it takes. This kid was ranked higher than LaPorta who was also in this draft as was Dalton Kincaid. It was an excellent TE class and he was ranked #2. I wouldn't let this kid get by me if I had a chance to grab him.

He needs to improve as a receiver.

3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

3rd-Kylen Granson/EJ Jenkins

4th-Harrison Bryant Here our 3 possible TE3's Now do a work up and tell me how they rate vs Washington

With the exception of Jenkins, they are all better receivers than Washington. He is a force as a blocker, but not as a receiver so far.

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Doesn’t feel like I need to even entertain making anymore of a case surrounding my thoughts about that TE class. Absolutely no comparison between LaPorta and Washington,

I agree with Ham.

3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We have 2 thirds as of now. who are you going to draft in days 1 and 2 who will REPLACE who we have signed already?

It depends on the timing. If you mean replace in the 2026 season, probably only Goedert, and unfortunately 2026 looks like a weak TE class. However, drafting a player in 2026 to be a 2027 replacement, or even a 2028 replacement, that is how Howie drafts.

He could also flip one of the 3rds for a 2027 2nd, as was done with pick 81 in 2004.

4 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

3rd string with the ceiling to be a 1? You wouldn't take that gamble? Pitts may NOT even want to part with him,but it's worth a phone call

Is Pitts any better than Calcaterra?

4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

They spent three and are giving up on him…how would that still equal a three? A three and we could have just drafted him in the first place. LaPorta was so obvious to me as quality TE. It’s rankings screwing up stuff like that you just love to take advantage of.

Even though nominally LaPorta is a TE, he functionally is a big bodied WR … like Johnny Wilson was for the 2024 Eagles.

17 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Irrelevant, Howie and Lurie pay the value... they gave Barkley and other guys extra money all the time... they get ahead of the value. Carter will seem to have huge numbers, but then in reality it won't seem so bad... watch how it's done in a year or so.

I agree, and the player sets the value. The Barkley contract is a good example. Howie and Lurie did not overpay him when he was a FA. He got the value he wanted. Fast forward 12 months and since he outperformed his contract value, they gave him a bump to reflect the actual value received.

5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

IDK Calc is a blocking TE also. he can catch but like Washington he needs to improve if he wants to step into TE1. Depends what you mean by "better"

I mis read your post. I thought you were talking about Atlanta’s Kyle Pitts.

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

My point was we have plenty of firepower to get some guys in THIS year. Just depends on Howies offers and where he feels we could use a boost

Where do we have needs this year?

7 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

IDK Calc is a blocking TE also. he can catch but like Washington he needs to improve if he wants to step into TE1. Depends what you mean by "better"

Calcaterra isn’t a blocking TE. When he is called upon to block, it is almost always as an H-Back.

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

I don't see any major flaws anywhere, but we can get a guy or 2 for the future. RG is still not set in the books. I think we will be fine there though. Alot of our BU's could start somewhere else LOL

I agree there aren’t any major flaws. And Howie is very clearly committed to youth. The only way that works is to bank draft picks. So, I expect he will use the days before the 53-man roster cut down to trade players for 2027 draft picks. Going into each Draft with 12 or more picks gives him plenty of ammo to keep getting young.

Seven picks plus two to three Comp Picks each year, plus two to three picks from trades gets him to 12.

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Welp we can disagree some because he needs work on his routes and catching skills or we would have moved on from Goedert IMO

I want to see if they go to him in the [passing game more than they have been

1 minute ago, mattwill said:

I agree there aren’t any major flaws. And Howie is very clearly committed to youth. The only way that works is to bank draft picks. So, I expect he will use the days before the 53-man roster cut down to trade players for 2027 draft picks. Going into each Draft with 12 or more picks gives him plenty of ammo to keep getting young.

Seven picks plus two to three Comp Picks each year, plus two to three picks from trades gets him to 12.

It's amazing what he did. So the question is,since we signed so many to extensions WHO do you use your round 1 pick on? I mean who do you replace?.it's like we could skip and entire years draft

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Welp we can disagree some because he needs work on his routes and catching skills or we would have moved on from Goedert IMO

Yes we disagree. As a pass catcher Calcaterra is every bit as good as Goedert. He isn’t the all around TE that Goedert is, with inline blocking being a big deficiency.

Plus he isn’t a UFA after this season, so contractually he wasn’t any more certain than Goedert.