7 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Seeing as you are from NC you may not understand Pennsylvania, but let me help you with something. There is no love between the east side and west side of the state. A person who grows up near Pittsburgh has no affection for Philadelphia, and the converse is true. Basically, the state is split pretty much in two, with Harrisburg as the line of demarcation, though there is some fans of Baltimore in the Lancaster area.

Point being, if you interview a guy who grew up in or around Pittsburgh and ask them about 'going home', they would only consider Pittsburgh that home, not Philadelphia. Philadelphia and Pittsburgh are separated by a 6 hour drive, and are dramatically different cities culturally. No Pittsburgh native that I have ever heard of got excited to come 'home' to Philadelphia.

Thanks for that info. I lived in Ohio, so I should have guessed(state divided by the Browns and Bengals) and FL(Miami.Bucs.Jags) I SHOULD have assumed it worked the same there. Thanks for the reminder. My late mother and were contra fans in FL. I bleed green, she was from Altoons(GRHS). But for athletes home is where the paycheck gets cashed LOL

38 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Looking good. Nice solid quick moves. He's going to rip teams new ones alongside Baun then you have DeJean spying the QB and Q island. We're going to be very difficult the throw on, maybe even moreso than last year and I suspect the new kids on the block a few years ago are going to blossom in the run game. Extremely hard as we force teams to pick their poison. I still say the QB goes through Philly, at least out 1/2 of it. I would not sleep on Denver if I was on the other side of the bracket. Going to be a superb year to watch football

25 minutes ago, mattwill said:

It's time for the writers to give Hurts his due. This was the bar I hope he could achieve. After the change in the offense last year he became a whole new QB. He matured so much. Stopped the "Panic" and learned it's OK to throw a ball away instead of forcing the issue. I feel this was a big step for him. His game is confident, he doesn't get rattled anymore, his passes got more accurate. There were no more "bonehead plays. Everything we have harped on he got done. We understand we're not going to see 65 yard bombs, but for this team 50 yarders will do just fine. This team is going to be a force for years to come. With the league parity try by the NFL it was assumed there would be no more "dynasties", but seriously we could have one in the making. The "weak NFCE" is becoming tough and good again. The Wuss are coming up nicely, even the Gnats are starting to piece things together and Dullaz is Dullaz. The rivalries are renewing and it's going to be a blast for fans. We still have the best fan base in the NFL

26 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Now compare the OL and RBs, time to throw, etc. These are very cherry picked stats. And this isn't a Hurts' hater post. It's a Hurts' realist/Burrow realist post. Burrow has never had the protection that an NFL QB should have when expected to win. That OL is swiss cheese. In fact, I would go so far as to say that the starting 5 for the Bengals would actually have had a hard time even making the team for the Eagles, that's how deep this OL has been during Hurts' tenure.

And there's just no comparison between Joe Mixon and Saquan Barkley. One is a very good RB, the other is a generational RB.

4 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Now compare the OL and RBs, time to throw, etc. These are very cherry picked stats. And this isn't a Hurts' hater post. It's a Hurts' realist/Burrow realist post. Burrow has never had the protection that an NFL QB should have when expected to win. That OL is swiss cheese. In fact, I would go so far as to say that the starting 5 for the Bengals would actually have had a hard time even making the team for the Eagles, that's how deep this OL has been during Hurts' tenure.

And there's just no comparison between Joe Mixon and Saquan Barkley. One is a very good RB, the other is a generational RB.

Bengals improved their OLine. Comparison you Cherry picked to skip here was Burrow has the best WR …probably ever …propping up his production. Had him in college and the pros….so afforded comfort levels are impossible to measure at this point. Ja’Marr Chase is the best! Totally volunteer Burdow used the best in Chase along with arguably second best in Jefferson to break all collegiate records won that Heisman denying Hurts. Not many players keep Hurts from winning the Heisman that season. Burrow was just on that super team…along with super coaching.

Then get into Higgins as his number two WR. Had Boyd there also as number three…or 2A.

All Pro S, DT, Edge….like you noted…Bengals D only allowed one extra point a game than what Hurts contended against.

Burrow blew it failing to make the key plays that stalled all three first drives for the Bengals in true SB loss. Bad read…killed the first drive. Bad timing and not accurate throw sealed the fate on their third drive stalling turns field goal.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Burrow blew it failing to make the key plays that stalled all three first drives for the Bengals in true SB loss. Bad read…killed the first drive. Bad timing and not accurate throw sealed the fate on their third drive stalling turns field goal.

The field goal setup by a straight Go by Ja’Marr …what was it…”carrying”

Also you should factor in Hurts was held back from actually posting even larger just pure statistical numbers …in the playoffs and the SB. If the situation dictated I don’t even hesitate for a second to believe Hurts and our O could have and would have produced another 100 yards and two more scores….thats just talking about in that SB game alone even. Could really go back to each game and pint out how we salted away victory instead of padded stats needlessly. Heck our D slipped just a tiny bit giving up what points they did to the Chiefs in that SB. Little bit extra slack how it was played…but hard to blame the D much…all really needed was to just slow things down enough and kill clock.

https://youtu.be/4x4MND-Rhrc?si=ZtzoxXiUXMR2wZP-

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

https://youtu.be/4x4MND-Rhrc?si=ZtzoxXiUXMR2wZP-

This place utilizes YouTube…but you aren’t allowed to display any NFL content….on a NFL fan site. Goofy NFL endless greed!

Then watch the drive the Bengals did score their first TD on. Far from Burrow carrying much of anything. Joe Mixon had a couple very good rushes. Playcalls provide a couple open targets for Burrow. Higgins I remember as being one.

But then….behind the line of scrimmage short pass near the goaline to the right….hard catch for Mixon on the play because of Burrow bad accuracy on such an elementary pass. Next play….Burrow bad pass again… to the left this time….behind the line of scrimnage…Ja’Marr has to make a spectacular catch behind him just a few feet away from Burrow.

First TD secured in that SB for the Bengals would better be described of…despite Burrow screwing it all up at the end. After two bad Burrow inaccurate passes…both being of easiest level tier passes to be thrown. Both plays he screwed up weren’t the coaches calling for Burrow to "carry” anything into score their first SB TD. More scared playcalling of YAC Creation play right…then YAC Creation play left. Both plays relying on those two big playmakers to carry the Bengals finally over the goaline. But Mixon and Chase can’t Create…after such really poor passes from Burrow.

So After Burrow blew it so consistently almost that entire SB first half….specifically blew it two straight plays right in front of the Endzone…..Bengals had a backup RB come in and throw that first TD to Higgins for the Bengals instead of Burrow.

Hurts SB interception was actually not a real bad play at all. Was a situation of it being worth the chance to take….downside of it being interception…in reality? Made it a fantastic P essentially.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Hurts SB interception was actually not a real bad play at all. Was a situation of it being worth the chance to take….downside of it being interception…in reality? Made it a fantastic P essentially.

Has anyone said it was a bad interception? Or are you just talking to yourself again?

I’d include believing Chiefs and Spagnola present the more difficult challenges in comparison to what Burrow faced against those Rams. Burrow having nothing but consistency in his O scheme under Taylor the entire time a huge boost over what Hurts has contended with as well. Heck even just a one year comparison it’s a superior O scheme setup for Burrow. Zac Taylor be chosen ahead of either Siri or Moore by list anybody for pure O system, playcalling and gameplan.

Burrow has actually been a guy I’ve gone out of my way to always mention as elite player. Even very possibly the QB with the largest argument to be considered ahead of Hurts league wide. Burrow is absolutely incredible! So getting ahead of any folks that done read it comprehend my words from the Get Go ahead of it happening. Like it always does. Because always one or two morons try to change my words into something entirely different. Pretty much how this play consistently works ,sadly in fact. Case for Burrow compared to Hurts is a whole differing argument than what I saw presented. What was presented was playoff stats. Very specific SB comparison. With caption..’Hurts carried’…’Burrow carries.’

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Burrow has actually been a guy I’ve gone out of my way to always mention as elite player. Even very possibly the QB with the largest argument to be considered ahead of Hurts league wide. Burrow is absolutely incredible! So getting ahead of any folks that done read it comprehend my words from the Get Go ahead of it happening. Like it always does. Because always one or two morons try to change my words into something entirely different. Pretty much how this play consistently works ,sadly in fact. Case for Burrow compared to Hurts is a whole differing argument than what I saw presented. What was presented was playoff stats. Very specific SB comparison. With caption..’Hurts carried’…’Burrow carries.’

So looking at comparing their SB losing season against us last season becoming victorious was the comparison brought up specifically.(not by me)

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

So looking at comparing their SB losing season against us last season becoming victorious was the comparison brought up specifically.(not by me)

That’s a fail looking to troll. Burrow didn’t play well that first half. He screwed up…talking several drive killers almost 90 percent his fault it stalled. Even the TD was Burrow handing its for a RB throw after Burrow himself shanked two straight behind the line of scrimmage short passes

Second half started with a pretty crazy huge play for those Bengals. Burrow really scrambled forward and just chucked it up to Higgins. Ramsey fell down…

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Second half started with a pretty crazy huge play for those Bengals. Burrow really scrambled forward and just chucked it up to Higgins. Ramsey fell down…

Hahah…guess the O playcall? Switch Route….exact play I mentioned we could really take advantage of. Looked like Higgins tossed Ramsey to me. Wasn’t a good throw. Was a high Chuck throw with plenty of praying. Jump ball you gotta like Higgins chances most anytime anyway. But it was a pure 50/50 throw from Burrow. High lofted and short….not anything to really puff out your crest of your Burrow about…carrying his team with.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Hahah…guess the O playcall? Switch Route….exact play I mentioned we could really take advantage of. Looked like Higgins tossed Ramsey to me. Wasn’t a good throw. Was a high Chuck throw with plenty of praying. Jump ball you gotta like Higgins chances most anytime anyway. But it was a pure 50/50 throw from Burrow. High lofted and short….not anything to really puff out your crest of your Burrow about…carrying his team with.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

So now actually looking and breaking down that huge play to begin the second half. Burrow threw it short. That should have been an interception Burrow threw. Higgins HAD to yank Ramsey….he was in better position than the WR was. Roles reversed on that really very poor Burrow pass. No flag turned such a bad play by Burrow …into huge Higgins TD play.

Embarrassing actually. Add this to sandwiched right next to all the crap happened in our SB loss. Higgins flat out yanked Ramsey by the facemask to the ground…because Ramsey was in absolute perfect interception position on the play.

Criminal no call…if Burrow had actually won that SB.