10 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Don’t discount the culture we have. Parsons comes with a bunch. He’s going to be a very vocal leader. Think the character and makeup of our team should not be overlooked. But….he’s a heck of a player.

I’m glad you have come around to appreciating the culture Sirianni has instilled in this team right from Day One in Year One.

The players clearly buy into that culture.

6 hours ago, wussbasket said:

It is just so fascinating how on brand everyone in the locker room is. They are 1,000% bought in, and it shows. To me, this is beyond a team. Its a culture that takes years to build and helps everyone around them get better.

The patriots had something similar, but far more robotic. The Eagles feels alive.

10 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Serviceable….I’d say would be enough. He’s so much more a threat as a playmaker….that does give some trade off. If you don’t count for him? He’s going to bust you. You’ll see….easily confident from my side of things.

I agree with you about his attributes, but if he can’t pass protect effectively, then his coming in for one or more snaps telegraphs a message to the opposing Defense that the play call is going to be a run, and they adjust their Defense accordingly.

It is the opposite of what happened to the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. With virtually every play call a pass, Fangio adjusted the Eagles Defense accordingly. Same pendulum, just swung to the opposite extreme.

10 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I think he’s probably number two on the depth chart. He not only could make the 53….but dress on game days.

Dress but not play unless there is an in game injury to one of the two starters. Mailata is the number two OT. Lamm is at best number three.

It is a risk arbitrage situation. You calculate what the risk is of Lane or Mailata getting injured in games 1-4. Then you ask yourself what your options other than Lamm are if that low risk reality actually happens. Matt Pryor is more than serviceable as both a backup zOG and a backup OT. So the absence of Lamm, while not ideal, is also not problematic.

11 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He can pass block serviceably…the actual blocking part. Now how well he learned and understood how the blocking assignments worked in every scenario? I couldn’t attest to.

If he can’t pass protect pass block serviceably, why is he getting RB3 touches while Dillon gets RB2 touches?

10 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

2 different sports. If you excel at golf, you still may suck at bowling. Too soon to judge IMO. Snyder was horrible, doesn't take much effort to exceed him. If the new owner was so great he would have had the McLaruin deal done by now(which could still occur)

Ownership is the same sport regardless of what the League is.

10 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

The point was, the smallish RB's are going to have difficulty making this team.

Was Sproles small? I would say he was short, but not small.

10 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I really feel we should add Simmons. Brown seems "fragile",Mukuba COULD be ready, but that is not guaranteed and we could use the depth anyway. He would also reunite with Fangio,so Vic already knows what he's getting

We have Blankenship who is a great quality Eagle leader. So that’s a negative towards adding Simmons to the position group and room. Also this team feels like it’s thriving and better injury results from younger athletes. Don’t forget McCollum….already proven a fit in some roles with Fangio. Tough to go hard on Brown over such a small sample. He’s a workout warrior, got speed and has shown some huge playmaking potential. Mukuba really could potentially be a complete stud. Hard hitter that can cover. But…can’t just ignore his size. I prioritize mostly whether he can play well at least when available. Most S aren’t able to suit up every game. So he works if it’s only like three games missing a season durability.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

We have Blankenship who is a great quality Eagle leader. So that’s a negative towards adding Simmons to the position group and room. Also this team feels like it’s thriving and better injury results from younger athletes. Don’t forget McCollum….already proven a fit in some roles with Fangio. Tough to go hard on Brown over such a small sample. He’s a workout warrior, got speed and has shown some huge playmaking potential. Mukuba really could potentially be a complete stud. Hard hitter that can cover. But…can’t just ignore his size. I prioritize mostly whether he can play well at least when available. Most S aren’t able to suit up every game. So he works if it’s only like three games missing a season durability.

But after saying all that? Can’t say you’re wrong on wanting Simmons either.

11 hours ago, mattwill said:

Look at the new owner’s track record. How have his Sixers done?

Well I’m looking at what has happened already with the Commanders. Huge turnaround. Thinking that GM might be pretty good.

10 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

2 different sports. If you excel at golf, you still may suck at bowling. Too soon to judge IMO. Snyder was horrible, doesn't take much effort to exceed him. If the new owner was so great he would have had the McLaruin deal done by now(which could still occur)

McLauren is GM job. Many ways to view extending him for them. He’s thirty…demanding over 30 mil per….who knows length and guarantees. Smart move really could very likely be to trade him.

1)that’s big money

2)will he be a part of their future? Or just right now present?

3)they have a second year stud QB…so longer term bigger picture needs to be heavily accounted for.

4) They’re in the same Division with THE BEST TEAM IN THE LEAGUE!!!

So…should the Commanders push all chips in against us these next two years? Or would the wiser approach possibly be to plan and build on Trust the Process schedule. Try and peak three or four years from now….hoping our dynasty develops more chinks in the armor and flaws?

Realistic? (Not considering key injuries possibility) They aren’t beating us right now. Maybe a game…but not postseason.

10 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

But he'd take less to hoist the Lombardi. Those 3 with Dotson in a relief role(he can relieve all 3 for breathers and take over if any of the 3 went down). My gut tells me Howie may go for Simmons, there is no fight there. The Wuss could actually tag McLaurin and keep him 3 years. but as a "disgruntled employee" he could do alot of damage on say "ooops I dropped it" and it seems he has already given up on the Wuss. besides tagging is not cheap. So you see it's not all about money. He should get paid, thats true and it would be a bit awkward paying 3 top WR's. Alot of mouths to feed(aka target share), but Ham you keep saying we need to go the extra mile(we still don't know what you mean by that) but this would open the door to much more passing attempts and Hurts made the step up to that last season, not in amount, but in his accuracy. Some WR's must have the stats to stay happy, some are just happy to play the game they love. Players see which teams are fair to their players and which are not. Even when we lose guys we make it as painless as possible for them to find new homes or at least not obstruct them. Players appreciate this and I believe we have the best culture in the league and as I said how on earth do you defend AJ. Smitty. McLaurin, Goedert and Barkley while having Hurts as a dual threat QB? And as I also said we have a plethora of draft picks ahead so it's not like we're DOA in the draft process. I know it's awkward, but the amazing potential to be indefensible just attracts my attention. Those 5 with Hurts at QB would create a dynasty IMO that would carry for the next 3 years. I'm not saying Howie will do it, but I'm not fantasizing that those 5 provide(and Hurts) provide maybe the best offense as a unit that ever played the game(with the O line we have already). Tell me how, in any scenario, a DC shuts us down.(most can't defend us as-is) Dotson can spell anyone of those tri tandem guys or even replace one in a pinch. You wanted a WR room with depth? OH boy would you have THAT done, signed and sealed for many years to come. McLaurin even called us out by name. You know he would give 100%. And if Hurts got hurt, McKee would have a field day with those 3 WR's. I will however admit IDK how Howie could pull it off with the remaining cap space. I haven't much understanding as to how that works. maybe it's not even possible anyhow. Justin Simmons as a "consolation prize" is also fine by me. If we want Simmons we need to move soon. Rant over

Found this an interesting well thought out opinion. No way Commanders trade him to us…just for starters. Keeping WR disgruntled in check would be even more challenging than it was and is. Did McLauren chase the ring or take the money his actual actions so far? Money!!! Terrible organization….so nothing close to even contending team. Now…it is much easier to take less after he’s made a good amount of money at this point in his career. Yes I thinks WR depth is crucial and just way too much for any …ANY D to handle.

I wanted to get Dotson…didn’t go as well as I had anticipated…but think he’s working in his role with us late last season finally. So optimistic about Dotson this season. Think he has so much more unlocked potential to tap into. Could envision scenarios where he possibly is long term piece for us. Possibly becoming him and Smitty as our WR tandem in a couple of years. He’s never going to be AJ. But not feeling like AJ is all about Philly. Came here to play with his good friend Hurts…but guess that off field relationship dissolved. Ughhh…don’t want to be super negative…but just have that feeling …like AJ here for a season or two more…before whatever happens.

4 hours ago, EaglesTD123 said:

So like the Reddick type?

Reddick was disrespected and balled out for us. So he didn’t come in as our leader. I didn’t really hear much from Reddick….Parsons won’t shut up. Parsons better more versatile player. I’m not even sure what Reddick did against our culture. He performed at an elite level and wanted to earn fair value. He sucked it up for the second season…which if he was such a problem? He wouldn’t have done that. Then didn’t have guaranteed money left on his contract anymore year three…plus deserving a raise. How does Rosie do things? We all know. He wasn’t going to pay Reddick. He gets contracts done early…so if he doesn’t? It isn’t happening, right? Seems all very understandable to me.

11 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

The point was, the smallish RB's are going to have difficulty making this team.

Need the complimentary big back to go with Saquan and Shipley.

3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I think he's too vocal for my liking. It's sometimes a thin line between leader and arsewad. He's a great player, no doubt. The inept stupidity of the Dullaz FO sometimes makes players reactions seem worse or more bitter. I mean Jerruh historically is not a "people person". One can push mild mannered people to become outraged morons, or making them appear to be jerks. Thus is the Dullaz culture. That's the best NON answer I can give 😆 What do you think?

Parsons seems most concerned with being famous. Not really a guy to keep things ‘in house’ like our team does so well. But…maybe our culture is what he needs. Fantastic talented athlete. Shows a real love and dedication towards football. So admit maybe I’m making too much about something insignificant.

Kind of brings me full circle on the discussion surrounding Carter and Jordan Davis. Davis has more value because of his vibe…and positive effects on Carter. Parsons would be totally different. He’d be that fame superstar presence. That’s coming with Carter some pretty much guaranteed…he’s a stud! But really hoping that stays in check as much as possible.

3 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Why? This is why nobody is on here anymore... why do you continue the same crap conversation all the time? Just ignore when he gets like this.

Seemed like to me this was an obvious situation going to unfold. Actually find it intriguing. What’s the right answer for the Commanders with McLauren? Only time will tell. Think most GMs would pay him. But…actually was thinking myself that it’s very possible the wise GM move for them would be to trade him. His value is arguably at its peak. Their team isn’t in just a win now situation. Save that money, add draft ammo to really help build their longer term future and draft a replacement stud WR high. Oh yeah…there’s that colossal giant in the room..or more accurately the division…McLauren is thirty…so really gotta say our team is a large factor for the Commanders. If you bet everything you have…would it be on the Commanders taking us down the next two seasons? Or planning and targeting to hit full steam in three seasons and beyond with Daniels? Hoping that we fall off some then.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We have Blankenship who is a great quality Eagle leader. So that’s a negative towards adding Simmons to the position group and room. Also this team feels like it’s thriving and better injury results from younger athletes. Don’t forget McCollum….already proven a fit in some roles with Fangio. Tough to go hard on Brown over such a small sample. He’s a workout warrior, got speed and has shown some huge playmaking potential. Mukuba really could potentially be a complete stud. Hard hitter that can cover. But…can’t just ignore his size. I prioritize mostly whether he can play well at least when available. Most S aren’t able to suit up every game. So he works if it’s only like three games missing a season durability.

23 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Need the complimentary big back to go with Saquan and Shipley.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Well I’m looking at what has happened already with the Commanders. Huge turnaround. Thinking that GM might be pretty good.

The "huge turnaround" was because they finally got a QB

On 7/31/2025 at 5:21 PM, GreenbleedinNC said:

Ham is a big Shipley fan(apparently) yet he bashed Gains. They are both similar in how they were/will be used. I also found that 1 article I posted(first one) a little concerning, that Hurts peformance dropped off with Smitty out. Of course they could be forcing those plays to see 'what works" so hard to tell, but apparently it was enough to write about for that writer. Not going to panic in July(well almost August). our BU center may also be playing himself out of a job. Fun days ahead!

No Mas my Gainwell statement was in response to this post…that brought up Gainwell in comparison.

On 7/31/2025 at 5:27 PM, GreenbleedinNC said:

On another note,it appears Justin Simmons would like to play here. I would like to have him here, except for the cost factor. The positional injuries could mean early on we could use him. But if you pay him,you use him all year(lol- well DUH), So that would be a Howie/Fangio decision if he would be worth the cost. Simmons has already made it known he wants to play here

So Ceedy Duce was moved out…partly giving the leadership role over to Blankenship. Something Slay even identified. So how would it go if Simmons was added? The clearly more decorated player…that I’d assume our young secondary players would respect. Essentially by default would that move completely change all that? The approach of turning to Blankenship to lead the Secondary would shift over to Simmons. My thinking is Blankenship is near ideal humble undrafted player that’s a great influence.

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

Ownership is the same sport regardless of what the League is.

But you need to know each sport to hire the correct people, so I disagree some. I believe he also owns the NJ Devils?

3 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Gee ...it's on the internet it must be real

🤣

It's in quotes?

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

Dress but not play unless there is an in game injury to one of the two starters. Mailata is the number two OT. Lamm is at best number three.

It is a risk arbitrage situation. You calculate what the risk is of Lane or Mailata getting injured in games 1-4. Then you ask yourself what your options other than Lamm are if that low risk reality actually happens. Matt Pryor is more than serviceable as both a backup zOG and a backup OT. So the absence of Lamm, while not ideal, is also not problematic.

Pretty much believing you need that best backup option available each game. Not concluding that’s Lamm already…but leaning that way. Think he’s a Swing T as well. So top backup option at two positions I’m definitely dressing on Gameday. Costs of the risks possible with a lesser T screwing up and getting our QB killed would suck.

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

Was Sproles small? I would say he was short, but not small.

Robinson and Scandrick are both small in stature and a bit lighter like Sproles was(both under 200 pounds like Sproles). We got Sproles after he had experience(proven), so as I said being "smallish" is an uphill battle to make THIS team. They would need to be very special and superior. They(one or the other) could be used on return duties,but we seem to like Avery in that role,so once again I don't see the smaller backs making this team. I would personally prefer MJ over either one on the PS

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

If he can’t pass protect pass block serviceably, why is he getting RB3 touches while Dillon gets RB2 touches?

I’m not so sure it’s going down like that pecking order yet. But…Dillon is a proven vet. Shipley hasn’t proven anything yet. So easier and better to give the proven vet respect while placing him in the position to force Shipley to earn anything he gets. You know…not handing the kid anything…make him earn it. Then the fact of Shipley knows the O much more than the new guy Dillon. So Dillon needs to catch up more. Just don’t think it’s all surrounding judgment against Shipley…more about Dillon I believe. Guy was considering retirement…so more incentive is good for him to get back on track. Dillon was a good player too…no shame in being behind him for a young player.

Rooting for Dillon to workout best possible. He’s capable of good stuff. But…telling you…I believe in Shipley. Kid is dynamic rushing and receiving….admittedly all just unproven opinion.

12 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So Ceedy Duce was moved out…partly giving the leadership role over to Blankenship. Something Slay even identified. So how would it go if Simmons was added? The clearly more decorated player…that I’d assume our young secondary players would respect. Essentially by default would that move completely change all that? The approach of turning to Blankenship to lead the Secondary would shift over to Simmons. My thinking is Blankenship is near ideal humble undrafted player that’s a great influence.

Simmons would be reunited with Fangio, each understands what the other offers. You could be correct though because if Fangio was pounding the table for Simmons, he would be here by now. My question is who will be ready week 1 AND do we have an adequate BU available for the first few weeks? You know the first 5 games are not pushovers and the head hunters will be out to hurt us. Losing either starting S early on with no BU would be problematic