4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

See..the problem is...you try to read everyone's thoughts...you don't pay attention to what other people say...what's that word I use again..starts with an N.

I’m not black. The N word isn’t appropriate any which way though.

I have no clue why the Bears would give up the 9 pick when they are rebuilding and need foundational players everywhere. The 9 pick will be a key cog in their rebuild. You may or may not get that at 22

7 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

You don't think he was top 5 on the Eagles board?  The way they value linemen?

Clearly higher than S Hamilton I considered should have been the obvious choice. Not sure they were as high on Sauce as I was. Do think they liked a couple of those WR. Think that was Garrett Wilson I really liked in that draft at WR. But gave Saints the ammo to go get Olave to put top WR out of reach. Had missed out on the FA WR options. 

If I'm the Bears I am taking Caleb Williams at 1 and Brock Bowers at 9

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I have no clue why the Bears would give up the 9 pick when they are rebuilding and need foundational players everywhere. The 9 pick will be a key cog in their rebuild. You may or may not get that at 22

Think your statement almost answers itself. Grab more ammo while rebuilding with trading back at 9. Especially since they have the top overall pick they are going to use. They have that luxury.

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

If I'm the Bears I am taking Caleb Williams at 1 and Brock Bowers at 9

Their O line stinks,but you gotta start somewhere

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Think your statement almost answers itself. Grab more ammo while rebuilding with trading back at 9. Especially since they have the top overall pick they are going to use. They have that luxury.

They could trade the 9 back a little,I just don't see them dropping to 22. Brock Bowers could be there at 9. If so, the phone will be ringing off the hook with trade offers

14 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

If I'm the Bears I am taking Caleb Williams at 1 and Brock Bowers at 9

Wouldn’t be bad for them. To nitpick: are you so sure a Cal kid that played at Georgia can thrive in cold windy Chicago? I listed Bowers as my top tier elite prospect. But cold weather and wind is a factor. Several players don’t adapt well. Just look at Tua. I don’t think Tua has won a game with the weather under 50 degrees. Tua is a good QB. Lit it up last year. But…don’t see him translating as well here of in Chi- Town…or anywhere cold. Fell off to end the season for sure. Just not a cold weather QB. Will the cold wind hurt Bowers game? Not sure we have enough of any proof to show it wouldn’t. 
  Probably stretching things here a bit I admit. But is something to consider and question. More than just athletic traits come into play. Many here seem to not understand these other factors.

Chicago Bears Draft Picks by Round in 2024

• Round 1, Pick 1 (from CAR)
• Round 1, Pick 9
• Round 3, Pick 75
• Round 4, Pick 122 (from PHI)      Yeah they need more picks in a stacked draft

16 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Right it's a strong draft class,why would you give up draft assets in a strong draft class?? I only do it if I'm big time fleecing someone,otherwise I want the picks in a deep talented class at every position(except RB)

And you could be just like the Giants. Love a draft class. Love DeVonta. But let us trade up in front of you to grab him. Then draft Toney instead. I’d say that one draft situation has made a difference between us and the giants.

13 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I have no clue why the Bears would give up the 9 pick when they are rebuilding and need foundational players everywhere. The 9 pick will be a key cog in their rebuild. You may or may not get that at 22

What you and I believe isn’t really very relevant. Multiple sources sight their 9 pick is on the block. Take it or leave it. That’s the perception.

8 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

They could trade the 9 back a little,I just don't see them dropping to 22. Brock Bowers could be there at 9. If so, the phone will be ringing off the hook with trade offers

I’m calling top 5 Big Board selection will be there at 9. So yeah…phone should be ringing off the hook.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m calling top 5 Big Board selection will be there at 9. So yeah…phone should be ringing off the hook.

But also could easily see the pick being traded before the draft even begins.

18 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I have no clue why the Bears would give up the 9 pick when they are rebuilding and need foundational players everywhere. The 9 pick will be a key cog in their rebuild. You may or may not get that at 22

The Bears should do that trade in a heartbeat.  

27 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Never said need. I did admit to I’d pull the trigger in that rumored trade proposal with the ninth pick that’s supposedly on the trade block. I’ve been on record as believing pretty strong in this draft class. Should be a quality player(based historically at the 22spot No Mas) if we stay at our spot.

I don't think we stay at 22. 

6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

What you and I believe isn’t really very relevant. Multiple sources sight their 9 pick is on the block. Take it or leave it. That’s the perception.

I absolutely think they are looking to trade #9.   Especially if they get that bleacher report offer. 

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But also could easily see the pick being traded before the draft even begins.

Agree...just not from us.

The desperate team trades up without knowing the player. 

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

I absolutely think they are looking to trade #9.   Especially if they get that bleacher report offer. 

Matches up on the trade value charts as a fair value trade

16 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Wouldn’t be bad for them. To nitpick: are you so sure a Cal kid that played at Georgia can thrive in cold windy Chicago? I listed Bowers as my top tier elite prospect. But cold weather and wind is a factor. Several players don’t adapt well. Just look at Tua. I don’t think Tua has won a game with the weather under 50 degrees. Tua is a good QB. Lit it up last year. But…don’t see him translating as well here of in Chi- Town…or anywhere cold. Fell off to end the season for sure. Just not a cold weather QB. Will the cold wind hurt Bowers game? Not sure we have enough of any proof to show it wouldn’t. 
  Probably stretching things here a bit I admit. But is something to consider and question. More than just athletic traits come into play. Many here seem to not understand these other factors.

Good question. I suppose all warm weather players need to adapt. Like sea level guys adjusting to Mile high

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Matches up on the trade value charts as a fair value trade

That's great... doesn't match up with the Eagles 

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I absolutely think they are looking to trade #9.   Especially if they get that bleacher report offer. 

Just saying at 9 they should get better offers from other teams than the BR(theoretical) one from us,they can hold that pick hostage a long time

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

The desperate team trades up without knowing the player. 

Desperate doesn’t apply to grabbing a top five talent on anybodies draft board. BPA should trump positional or player specifics being a top 5 overall player for any team. But specifics do come into play if a QB is being traded up for at 9. Think they could get even more than the suggested trade if a QB still is on the board at 9. Then all you list of specifics and position are huge factors. Bears will cash in big time.

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Good question. I suppose all warm weather players need to adapt

Several never do adapt well. It’s a factor. Plenty of stud athletes play well regardless also though.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Several never do adapt well. It’s a factor. Plenty of stud athletes play well regardless also though.

I'm sure playing in Georgia he had to play cold weather games away in that league