17 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

5 yards per carry is " woes"?

Usually not that high check the stats

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Usually not that high check the stats

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1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

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Averaging 3.2 YPC is indeed "woes"

6 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Usually not that high check the stats

5 yards per carry gets a 1st down every other play.

4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Averaging 3.2 YPC is indeed "woes"

Yesterday was 5 yards per carry....only 6 carries

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Yesterday was 5 yards per carry....only 6 carries

Right 1 game and??? That means the O line woes are fixed? I hope so

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Yesterday was 5 yards per carry....only 6 carries

3.2 YPC avg is pedestrian and alot of that he got due to his abounding talent. Mailata said "we are one block away" The mission is to find that block

4 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

First, you need a solid O line for ANY of this. Dickerson has not been at 100 and Toth is not cutting it either. I can scheme and draw plays up all day. if I don't have the personnel, I may as well doodle. Blocked kicks/scoop and scores are defensive plays in my view whatever label you want to put on them. Clay was responsible for Q getting spanked by Sutton?? The kick blocking unit is mostly your D players, so I count that as a defensive play not a ST play. If you want to view it as ST that's up to you. Depends on your viewpoint I suppose

Yeah…I do count ST plays as being part of the ST unit. Whole other coach is in charge of doing just that. Not sure how you’ve missed that all these years? Especially since you even played football. All kinds of players be it O or D or ST specialists perform on ST. But no version Fangio is the coach for those plays. Clay is.

3 hours ago, joemas6 said:

That's Howie's job.. not ours.

It’s the part he hasn’t completely yet got this season…to be specific.

3 hours ago, mattwill said:

If he only costs a 4th or 5th, is he really better than Ringo?

It’s always possible to be found. But lower percentages of paying off. Find the right guy is all that matters. But comes down to just how ‘All In’ is our organization going for it this season?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

It’s always possible to be found. But lower percentages of paying off. Find the right guy is all that matters. But comes down to just how ‘All In’ is our organization going for it this season?

Curious what everybody here’s take and belief on this is. Just how strong is your conviction on this being a Lombardi winning team and season for our Eagles?

I’ve been very vocal about my beliefs in when I’ve felt it’s time then I am willing to trade some future picks to go All In to lock down bringing home the parade. Been stating I believe we very potentially in our greatest franchise dynasty run right now. 2022 was very much wanting to push all our chips in to win the SB.

43 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

3.2 YPC avg is pedestrian and alot of that he got due to his abounding talent. Mailata said "we are one block away" The mission is to find that block

It means they obviously should have ran the ball more yesterday.. throwing 38 times ( really 44 with 6 sacks) running Barkley 6 times.. 50 plays ....44 passes and 6 runs to Barkley. Not the formula for this team... even at 3.2...but especially at 5 yards per carry.

But….not feeling as solid about those thoughts right now about this season. Was stating my thinking was need to go All In this year and next year as our best window. Lane and Saquan large reasons behind my thoughts. But …really having too many doubts about this years squad. Clearly contenders and a heck of a football team. But Can win it all isn’t the same as Should.

16 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It’s the part he hasn’t completely yet got this season…to be specific.

Because it's specifically not over yet.

3 hours ago, mattwill said:

Job, yes. But speculation about possibilities isn't Howie's job.

If we don't speculate about possible solutions all we are doing is being Negadelphian complainers.

You can’t put me in that grouping…because it was my belief that Isaiah Rodgers was such a great replacement in house proven better move for us.

3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Waste of Barks talent,but we have O line woes

Actually was Bark finially kind of actually working this season. That’s 5 yards a carry. Plus his nice long TD reception. Actually stinks that five yards a carry in our O with Saquan is considered positively really. Just average for a quality rushing team.

3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Waste of Barks talent,but we have O line woes

He’s been gaining way less than that so far this season. Ranked really really low comparatively across the league.

3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

See that scrub bum Gainwell was the guy we had that could break up the running/ Passing game. IDK if Shipley can. With 1 play I doubt you would know

He’s proven he can pick up the blitz and do his duties of resting and responsibilities on all that front. Which was really the only question about him. I didn’t doubt it even…but assumed it was the area of needed most development:

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

So saying a trade is a possible solution...is being negative unless we actually name players who we are clueless about their availability because we don't work in the NFL?

We have to act arrogant enough to name a player...otherwise just saying " this is a possible solution " is negative?

Part of the fun of being a fan is being able to make assumptions when coming up with possibilities. It is a textbook "more is more” opportunity. We do it all the time regarding the Draft, and we don’t know any more about the players in the Draft class than we do about the NFL players. I don’t personally play Fantasy, but anyone who does knows an immense amount about a wealth of players across the league.

The complaints that are made about specific players aren’t constrained by the contractual realities associated with that player, but we speculate nonetheless. What reason is there not to similarly speculate about players from another team?

I give credit to Ham for the fact that he did come up with a conceptual solution. However, for a guy who says he lives, breathes, eats and sleeps information relative to the NFL, my sense is he can do better … and I was simply challenging him to do just that. So he absolutely did come down from his all complaints all the time plateau, but he stopped short of walking in Howie’s shoes.

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

So saying a trade is a possible solution...is being negative unless we actually name players who we are clueless about their availability because we don't work in the NFL?

We have to act arrogant enough to name a player...otherwise just saying " this is a possible solution " is negative?

It’s more about just identifying the weak links in our championship chase this season. Up to Rosie to complete his job.

3 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Do I think Newsome is better yes not even close dude is starting on a pretty good Browns D…. But I don’t think the Browns are going to be able to move Newsome for much more then a 4th maybe a conditional 4th that can become a 3rd.

I think Riq Woolen is a good CB to but I also think he would only get the Seahawks a 3rd or 4th rounder at best similar to Newsome.

Mind you Darius Slay only cost us a 3rd back in 2020 and he was still regarded as one of the better CB in the league during that time

Thought it was 3rd and fifth…

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Averaging 3.2 YPC is indeed "woes"

Yeah…it’s been embarrassing. Nothing to claim as our identity for sure.

9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You can’t put me in that grouping…because it was my belief that Isaiah Rodgers was such a great replacement in house proven better move for us.

I understand that is your opinion, and I respect it. I just happen to trust our coaches’ and Howie’s opinions a bit more than you do.

FWIW, when they picked Rodgers up in the year he had to sit out, I thought it was a master stroke. I still believe it was. But his snaps in the 2024 season gave us all a whole more information than we had in 2023. He simply looked like an okay backup CB based on those 2024 snaps.

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Right 1 game and??? That means the O line woes are fixed? I hope so

Didn’t read anybody share those thoughts. But I as actually working decent at least….thats when our brilliant O minds decided was time to abandon doing it. Moronic and borderline insane.