Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

yes I posted that(see above). IDK why we would move for a WR? Who are we replacing? The top guys won't want to run slot routes for peanuts. Bowers is another story,that would make me happy

In a stacked class,if you can't find a WR at pick 22,you need to replace all your scouts LOL

Bowers would make this offense nearly unstoppable. I can play QB, and I will do it for 1/4 salary 🤣

As I sad before Howie loves to move up high,then move back again, fleecing 2 teams going both directions

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

never said he would be a bad choice,but it's lot more "blind faith" for a small schooler than a guy who has been battle tested over a solid college season.

We have nfl scouts we should have educated guesses on any player big or small shouldn’t be blind faith on any of them lol.

I don’t have an opinion on Mitchell haven’t watch enough of him to have one if hope our scouts have. Not just 2023 games but his entire career plus senior bowl , drills, workouts etc. 

Think what is save to assume though is the eagles are interested in trading up 

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Bowers would make this offense nearly unstoppable. I can play QB, and I will do it for 1/4 salary 🤣

Would he even get on the field? Can he run as a slot guy or Ertz back in the day? 
 

He obviously isn’t going to start over Geodart 

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Think what is save to assume though is the eagles are interested in trading up 

Yeah,seems like a sold rumor and now everyone arguing who they are moving for

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Would he even get on the field? Can he run as a slot guy or Ertz back in the day? 
 

He obviously isn’t going to start over Geodart 

The 1/2 punch. We had Ertz/Goedert. After Goedert showed he could be the 1 we traded Ertz in the middle of the night. I'm sure Bowers could do the same. Bowers is the next Gronk 

Howie moves around,that's not a big surprise. Up down,he will move to get guys he wants and add capital. The media acts like this is some astounding story they have to tell. like it's never happened before

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Bowers is the next Gronk 

I mean I’d pump the breaks on this lol…. Gronk was 6’6 270 pounds was a dominate blocker and nearly unstoppable pass catcher…. Could playing as the inline TE or flexed out.

There must be some sort of flow chart teams us - if this happens we do this. If we can get this trade we get this or we do this.

10 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

We have nfl scouts we should have educated guesses on any player big or small shouldn’t be blind faith on any of them lol.

I don’t have an opinion on Mitchell haven’t watch enough of him to have one if hope our scouts have. Not just 2023 games but his entire career plus senior bowl , drills, workouts etc. 

IDK you have vids of him vs less than top rate WR's and you have a day of drills,so part of it is blind faith that the drills translate in being able to cover higher rated talent. We all know every pick is a crapshoot of  "best guesses". I'm not opposed to getting him,but let him fall to us and let someone else make that leap of faith. You may feel differently. Bowers has already been tested in games played vs the top coverage college schools. Seems less of a risk to me

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

IDK you have vids of him ve less than top rte WR's and you have a day of drills,so part of it is blind faith that the drills translate in being able to cover higher rated talent. We all know wvwey pick is  crapshoot of  "best guesses". I'm no opposed to getting him,but let him fall to us and let someone else make that leap of faith. You may feel differently

They have way more than a day of drills though…. They have the entire senior bowl practices the games, private workouts, pro day, combine, plus all the games.

Again should be educated guess on any player big or small. Lot more info for scouts, GM, teams etc on players then any of us fans are going to have. 

Lots mocking Bowers 10 to the Jets, the rest have him going 10-15

4 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

They have way more than a day of drills though…. They have the entire senior bowl practices the games, private workouts, pro day, combine, plus all the games.

Again should be educated guess on any player big or small. Lot more info for scouts, GM, teams etc on players then any of us fans are going to have. 

I'm not Howie. We already know he is averse to taking DB's even if they fall to us. So it's difficult for me to think he would give up assets to make this move he is already averse to. I guess we'll know in 33 hours LOL. Could also be a smoke screen to free up someone else(like Bowers or a top O lineman)

Just now, mjkline1958 said:

Lots mocking Bowers 10 to the Jets, the rest have him going 10-15

He'd be a great help to Arod,the ancient one lol

If you move early you are setting yourself up for another team to jump you for the same player

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We already know he is averse to taking DB's

Don’t think Howie is all that averse to taking DBs we have taken numerous over the course of Howie time as GM.

Jarrett, Rowe, Sidney, Douglas, Brown

Feel like when people wanted to say we didn’t draft WRs we drafted guys we just never drafted the position well. DB feels the same way right now 

3 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Don’t think Howie is all that averse to taking DBs we have taken numerous over the course of Howie time as GM.

Jarrett, Rowe, Sidney, Douglas, Brown

Feel like when people wanted to say we didn’t draft WRs we drafted guys we just never drafted the position well. DB feels the same way right now 

Zero in round 1 and now you are adding LOSS of assets for him to do it now? I just don't see it when you can make less of a lift for DeJean or Arnold if you want a DB in round 1 AT ALL,which has never happened. Like i said I'm not against getting him,it's not worth losing assets in a stacked draft to me. maybe it is for Howie IDK. Bowers would have more bang for the buck if we decided to go up that high

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Zero in round 1

And???? Sidney Brown was the odds on favorite to be our round 1 pick until injury the we got him round 2.

If Brown worked out and Douglas played well would we be complaining that we didn’t spend round 1 picks on the guys? 
 

no the only reason we say we are averse to taking DBs is because the picks we have made have not worked out 

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Zero in round 1

Don't you think that part of the reason was how the board fell in those particular years.  The reports are we wanted  Surtain. 

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

And???? Sidney Brown was the odds on favorite to be our round 1 pick until injury the we got him round 2.

If Brown worked out and Douglas played well would we be complaining that we didn’t spend round 1 picks on the guys? 
 

no the only reason we say we are averse to taking DBs is because the picks we have made have not worked out 

That's why we took him because of the value.IDK if we would have taken him in 1

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Don't you think that part of the reason was how the board fell in those particular years.  The reports are we wanted  Surtain. 

Reports aren't picks. If we wanted him so bad we could have gotten him? But you're right. so what sets this kid SO far apart from the other 2 in the conversation that we would give up assets in stacked draft???

Seems the 1,2,3 ranked DB's are pretty close to me. Bowers on the other hand is worlds apart from #2

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

But you're right. so what sets this kid SO far apart from the other 2 in the conversation that we would give up assets in stacked draft???

Would have to ask Howie and co. But of it could be Vic. Guy does seem to have a track record of getting great play from his CBs if he is saying he really likes Mitchell could be a factor