On 12/17/2025 at 3:09 PM, joemas6 said:

Correct.... and Hurts absolutely takes sacks instead pf throwing ot away ... that plus the shovel pass ( which is really a long forward handoff) ... all adds up to helping his passer rating. It's a little inflated

So the point being his passer rating getting a boost by the Goedert Shovel pass. How often has he been benefitting from those plays?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

So the point being his passer rating getting a boost by the Goedert Shovel pass. How often has he been benefitting from those plays?

Instead he doesn’t receive the passer rating boost because he runs it in much more.

22 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Yeah he is lost if his ONE read is covered. Just bad field vision

This just isn’t backed up by fact on the actual field in games.

7 hours ago, mattwill said:

Ham, here is your quote (with a link to it included) as well as the comment you were responding to. Read your own words and weep.

So where is the fake quote you created under my name? Still waiting.

7 hours ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

damn @cunninghamtheman, that's gonna leave a mark.

the only question is, did you actually forget, or are you just a lying POS who once again, tried to weasel out of a stupid comment?

hello? @cunninghamtheman @cunninghamtheman @cunninghamtheman

Where’s my quote from actually me though? Are you even paying any attention? FL quoted me with all these words I never posted.

6 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

IDK how does coming out of the game pad someone elses stats??. I'm just a stupid hater though 🤣

How was Hurts padding stats when he left early?

6 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Yo fool, what if McKee went 0/3? How would that pad his(McKee) stats?

No version in the fool on any of this. None of it matters either way what McKee does towards Hurts padding stats. That’s what you stated…Hurts was padding stats. Explain how Hurts was doing this while McKee was in.

6 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Here's a copy of the post you deny lol, then blame me for something you said. Pathetic

You quoted yourself with the made of version by you. Show quoting my post only?

6 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Here's a copy of the post you deny lol, then blame me for something you said. Pathetic

No copy of my post…that was yours

6 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

IDK how does coming out of the game pad someone elses stats??. I'm just a stupid hater though 🤣

Yeah exactly you are. That’s been the question. You’re the one who said it did for Hurts. Hilarious you some how thought this was proving your point instead of proving you exactly completely wrong. By your own words now even.

11 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

How often has he been benefitting from those plays?

Aren’t like more then half if not more of geodarts tds from the shovel pads it’s is 100% a KP play and a great play for the RZ…. One of the reasons we are so successful in the RZ under KP

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

McKee had to overcome bad coaching to go 3 for 3. Imagine if McKee had the great O mind. 🙄

Believe all three QBs benefitted from Moore and Coach Doug last season.

6 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Here's a copy of the post you deny lol, then blame me for something you said. Pathetic

Where is it?

I know people will think I’m crazy but I want KP to return next season as OC no we haven’t be great on offense but we have to figure out a way to grow OCs scapegoating guys after a rocky season isn’t going to fix anything.

KP for all his rough patches has some good as well especially in the RZ the question now is how do we build on it and make it a successful O all around

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

McKee had to overcome bad coaching to go 3 for 3. Imagine if McKee had the great O mind. 🙄

I mean it was a blowout and Raiders had zero fight left in them. Nothing to take away from McKee …but nothing to really place real value on either.

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

McKee was Ham's boy last year. Because it was all about him vs Pickett. Now that McKee is #2... Ham doesn't like him anymore because in order to go up the ladder.. that means his main man would have to drop. Can't have a 2nd string QB that the fans like that actually looks legit. Ham needs to career backup... or the young kid that is the #3 with just the goal of being #2.

There is strategy to the agenda.

Show where I stated I didn’t like McKee?

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Believe all three QBs benefitted from Moore and Coach Doug last season.

In the same offense we most of the scheme and concepts were the exact same. The only difference was the OL being the best in the league allowing for the best ground game in the league

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

McKee was Ham's boy last year. Because it was all about him vs Pickett. Now that McKee is #2... Ham doesn't like him anymore because in order to go up the ladder.. that means his main man would have to drop. Can't have a 2nd string QB that the fans like that actually looks legit. Ham needs to career backup... or the young kid that is the #3 with just the goal of being #2.

There is strategy to the agenda.

I’m strongly in favor of having two quality QBs. Pretty much opposite of all this fake BS you state about me here.

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I like McKee for alot of reasons, one of them is he is 6'6" I believe. Nice to have a guy who can see over the defenders and locate the targets. The FO will have some decisions to make next year. JMO Hurts isn't hungry anymore

Terrible opinion based on what? Hurts is point to as one of the all time most driven dedicated athletes ever seen.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Terrible opinion based on what? Hurts is point to as one of the all time most driven dedicated athletes ever seen.

To be a champion..,not just famous doing.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Terrible opinion based on what? Hurts is point to as one of the all time most driven dedicated athletes ever seen.

Which opinion? The driven part maybe the being able to see of the OL is just a fact it’s the downside of the shorter QBs

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Can we build on the offense this week I’m not getting my hopes to high we beat the raiders but seems like some things were working for us hopefully help boost there confidence.

Doesn’t matter how terrible we have been as long as we start to get hot now going into the playoffs

See and there is the situation. How much should we instead keep close to the vest for the postseason instead?

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

To be a champion..,not just famous doing.

To early to say I’m an action over talk kind of guy Brady the standard of player that wanted chips more then anything else…. Is Hurts that dedicated? Time will tell he has chance

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Mckee has a lot of promise definitely could see him being a good starter in this league on the right team. Question is will he ever get that opportunity

Have to trade him this next offseason. He’ll get his own team here.

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Mckee has a lot of promise definitely could see him being a good starter in this league on the right team. Question is will he ever get that opportunity

See I believe it takes so much to be a franchise stating NFL QB. Does he have the leadership and intangibles it takes?