4 hours ago, joemas6 said:

The QB got married last offseason

Well that explains it, too much bed romping time before the SF game. No one can get married before they are 36 if we sign them. They will just have to put their lives on hold

This could be an odd draft for us we could realistically see our top picks play very little as rookies. Looking at the first 3 rounds and possible positions we could select.

If we go OT round 1 he might see the field with injuries but won’t be the day 1 starter most likely.

Edge-likely see the most playing time as he should be part of the rotation right away

WR- this is a tricky one if we drafted a guy and kept AJ could be tough for the rookie to get on the field with Hollywood/Wicks possibly Wilson all in the mix for that WR3 spot

TE- probably will get some play time but won’t be day 1 starter be behind Geodart for at-least a year.

Outside of S not sure if any player we draft will start day 1 and seems unlikely we spend a high pick at S

So, you are drafting for Miami. In round 3 you could take Nussmier at QB OR you could offer Howie pick 75 in round 3 for McKee. What would you do??? If they make that trade happen, then we can choose Nuss at 75. We get a nice potential QB prospect to keep the QB factory going(aging Dalton as QB2), they get McKee who would love the chance to start and a guy the Fins can build around. I think that would be a win for both teams. Another thought is McKee would work well in the new OC scheme which should be much more pass oriented. If Hurts falls on his face or keeps the audibles doing to the vanilla plays he loves McKee could step in for us? Interesting days ahead with some major implications. Hurts can't seem to grasp many concepts except the college RPO and McKee is more of your standard pocket passer type suitable for the "open it up" scheme they had in GB. The guys in the HOF are those types (Manning, Favre, Young) so there is that to consider. As a fan it's a complicated mess. But if you are Howie, you know exactly what the future looks like, but of course that will remain a secret until it no longer is. I'm sorry, but IMO Hurts is on trial in a "contract" year or at least a "prove it year" and that will be decided henceforth. I would be sad to see McKee go away, but the man deserves his chance to start. Another spot would be AZ. Sorry for the essay,just thinking out loud

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So, you are drafting for Miami. In round 3 you could take Nussmier at QB OR you could offer Howie pick 75 in round 3 for McKee. What would you do???

Neither Miami signed Malik Willis to be the starter has Ewers and not a good QB class I’d use the 3rd on a different position and see what Willis can do if they suck they will be in prime position for QB in 2027 which should be a far better class

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

This could be an odd draft for us we could realistically see our top picks play very little as rookies. Looking at the first 3 rounds and possible positions we could select.

If we go OT round 1 he might see the field with injuries but won’t be the day 1 starter most likely.

Edge-likely see the most playing time as he should be part of the rotation right away

WR- this is a tricky one if we drafted a guy and kept AJ could be tough for the rookie to get on the field with Hollywood/Wicks possibly Wilson all in the mix for that WR3 spot

TE- probably will get some play time but won’t be day 1 starter be behind Geodart for at-least a year.

Outside of S not sure if any player we draft will start day 1 and seems unlikely we spend a high pick at S

Agree,thought the same that most will sit and learn,but really that's a tremendous position to be in. Let the rooks sit, maybe spot plays or garbage time (if there is any of that). I personally think AJ goes to the Pats. Drafting a late WR with who we have now is fine. A kid like Stribling or Caldwell would be a nice addition and assuming either works out, Moore can go after this year. Maybe Hollywood stays and we have Wicks for 2 years,so the rook would take Moores spot. really happy Howie addressed the WR room very well and set us up for the future room

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Neither Miami signed Malik Willis to be the starter has Ewers and not a good QB class I’d use the 3rd on a different position and see what Willis can do if they suck they will be in prime position for QB in 2027 which should be a far better class

McKee would blow Ewers off the map. Willis is another Tua. IDK if you can trust the guy. Even as QB2 in Miami it gives him(McKee) more of a chance to step in than he has here. At the end of the year McKee isn't worth anything unless we sign him again

If we looked to trade McKee best time would likely be during the preseason.

A because McKee always plays well during the preseason so should help increase interest in him

B hopefully a QB goes down with an injury making a team desperate for a QB

AJ gives us picks in '27. Of course we could stack the '27 draft, I think Howie would like another pick in this draft.

6 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

If we looked to trade McKee best time would likely be during the preseason.

A because McKee always plays well during the preseason so should help increase interest in him

B hopefully a QB goes down with an injury making a team desperate for a QB

That's possible as McKees last outing wasn't so good, so you could be correct that he needs some decent showings

8 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

But just like with AJ doesn’t sound like we are willing to just give McKee away…. Reports earlier in the offseason stated our asking price was a 2nd round pick for McKee.

I think he's perfect for us. Sitting a year behind Lane will get him ready. He has so much potential it's crazy. He has only been playing football for 5 years(see Mailata)

35 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

But just like with AJ doesn’t sound like we are willing to just give McKee away…. Reports earlier in the offseason stated our asking price was a 2nd round pick for McKee.

Miami has pick 63 also I think. Why I chose them as a trade partner. McKee is better than Ewers and Malik may not suit what they want,so we'll see what happens

5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I think he's perfect for us. Sitting a year behind Lane will get him ready. He has so much potential it's crazy. He has only been playing football for 5 years(see Mailata)

Uncanny-he is the exact same height and weight as lane

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Malik may not suit what they want

They just went out and signed Malik this offseason clearly he fits what they want to do also has the connection with the HC since both are from GB so familiarity with the system he is bringing.

Malik might not be the answer long term but Miami definitely seems like they are going to give him an opportunity as the starter this season

I would LOVE to get Malachi Lawrence at 54,but don't think he will hang around that long. If I made a move up,it would be for this kid, but we didn't bring him in for a 30. Sutton maybe at 54,but IMO that is a reach

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

They just went out and signed Malik this offseason clearly he fits what they want to do also has the connection with the HC since both are from GB so familiarity with the system he is bringing.

Malik might not be the answer long term but Miami definitely seems like they are going to give him an opportunity as the starter this season

Hard to know what they want to do. It's a new era in Miami in the "not Tua" past

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Hard to know what they want to do. It's a new era in Miami in the "not Tua" past

Exactly the new era in Miami went out and signed Malik Willis paid him 70m with over 45m guaranteed.

Not like they inherited Willis they chose to go out and sign him in free agency

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

McKee would blow Ewers off the map. Willis is another Tua. IDK if you can trust the guy. Even as QB2 in Miami it gives him(McKee) more of a chance to step in than he has here. At the end of the year McKee isn't worth anything unless we sign him again

Comp pick

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Miami has pick 63 also I think. Why I chose them as a trade partner. McKee is better than Ewers and Malik may not suit what they want,so we'll see what happens

I'm going to go out on a limb...and say you are looking at Miami...because your thoughts involve trading McKee for a 2026 draft pick. You have invested time looking at these players and you want the shiny new toy that is available now...so trying hard to discount Miami signing Willis.

But BG is correct... if we trade McKee, his value would be highest with a combo of injury somewhere and a good preseason performance.

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Hard to know what they want to do. It's a new era in Miami in the "not Tua" past

Lol... usually when they sign a guy early, you can tell what they want to do... lol

It's great watching you try to get us more picks...lol

22 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Exactly the new era in Miami went out and signed Malik Willis paid him 70m with over 45m guaranteed.

Not like they inherited Willis they chose to go out and sign him in free agency

Yeah...it pretty tells us their plan for this year...lol.

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

I'm going to go out on a limb...and say you are looking at Miami...because your thoughts involve trading McKee for a 2026 draft pick. You have invested time looking at these players and you want the shiny new toy that is available now...so trying hard to discount Miami signing Willis.

But BG is correct... if we trade McKee, his value would be highest with a combo of injury somewhere and a good preseason performance.

I never said Miami was the only option LMAO. Any team in need in a fairly WEAK QB class who misses will try for McKee. I love McKee, which you seem to not understand, but we can't trade Hurts. I don't care about a shiny new toy either. I'm a bit old for those games, but call it as you want(and you did). As Howie said he loves having capable QB's in reserve, so if you're Miami, Ewers is that guy that lets you sleep at night? Willis is on a 3 year contract not like they felt he was worth a 5 year.. Miami is taking a huge gamble, not discounting anything for a guy with 6 starts, not exactly lighting up scoreboards with starting experience and they overpaid a BIG ?, and no viable BU unless you love Ewers and some other rook they draft. I suppose if they fall flat they can always draft Arch Manning in '27. Howie said basically if McKee was traded he wanted a round 2. Miami has the 63 and 75,so that is in his ballpark. get the false narrative out of your mind I am after ONE additional draft pick because that is FALSE. B8it to take options off the table is foolish

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Lol... usually when they sign a guy early, you can tell what they want to do... lol

It's great watching you try to get us more picks...lol

So you are totally ruling out McKee being traded in the draft? Nice to know you have deleted other possibilities when if fact you have no idea what offers will come in... lol

3 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Lol... usually when they sign a guy early, you can tell what they want to do... lol

It's great watching you try to get us more picks...lol

Dude has 6 starts (Willis) LOL. Quite a payout for a guy that hasn't proven a thing.