59 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He has serious flaws in his technique and game. He developed a work around at LT. That worked in college. Not so sure it can work in the pros the same at all. Moving to RT is a whole other beast for him.

So you are saying a player needs to be a finished product when he comes out of college and into the NFL? What is your opinion of Jordan Mailata as he entered the league? did he have any technique flaws in his game then?

Are you really making this assessment? A player can work on technique and learn things. If you were to critique a player coming out of college wouldn't it be more of an issue if you mentioned physical shortcomings that can't be improved? But instead you are saying he has bad technique? Really?

Can you enlighten us with specifics? That you don't feel can get better? And what is this " work around"?

Specifics would be good here, otherwise can you see where it just sounds vague? Like if you had your wife type this to try to make here sound like she knows football, but then give zero specifics. You are supposed to be a football expert, you should be able to give those specific flaws and why you don't think they can be fixed.

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He has serious flaws in his technique and game. He developed a work around at LT. That worked in college. Not so sure it can work in the pros the same at all. Moving to RT is a whole other beast for him.

Hard to fathom a college kid LEARNING 🤣

2 hours ago, capmaster24 said:

So you are saying a player needs to be a finished product when he comes out of college and into the NFL? What is your opinion of Jordan Mailata as he entered the league? did he have any technique flaws in his game then?

Are you really making this assessment? A player can work on technique and learn things. If you were to critique a player coming out of college wouldn't it be more of an issue if you mentioned physical shortcomings that can't be improved? But instead you are saying he has bad technique? Really?

Can you enlighten us with specifics? That you don't feel can get better? And what is this " work around"?

Specifics would be good here, otherwise can you see where it just sounds vague? Like if you had your wife type this to try to make here sound like she knows football, but then give zero specifics. You are supposed to be a football expert, you should be able to give those specific flaws and why you don't think they can be fixed.

Boy is Bernard in trouble with Ham because he didn't even know how to put on a helmet. Kids stop learning immediately after they leave college, didn't you know that?

I believe getting Makai Lemon shook up our board. Round 1 never goes as planned for 32 teams, that's why they have round 1 as a separate day(not the only reason but a big one), so you have time to re-do your board for rounds 2/3

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I believe getting Makai Lemon shook up our board. Round 1 never goes as planned for 32 teams, that's why they have round 1 as a separate day(not the only reason but a big one), so you have time to re-do your board for rounds 2/3

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ IS THE REASON

5 hours ago, capmaster24 said:

So you are saying a player needs to be a finished product when he comes out of college and into the NFL? What is your opinion of Jordan Mailata as he entered the league? did he have any technique flaws in his game then?

Are you really making this assessment? A player can work on technique and learn things. If you were to critique a player coming out of college wouldn't it be more of an issue if you mentioned physical shortcomings that can't be improved? But instead you are saying he has bad technique? Really?

Can you enlighten us with specifics? That you don't feel can get better? And what is this " work around"?

Specifics would be good here, otherwise can you see where it just sounds vague? Like if you had your wife type this to try to make here sound like she knows football, but then give zero specifics. You are supposed to be a football expert, you should be able to give those specific flaws and why you don't think they can be fixed.

Because his height makes natural leverage battles underneath defenders structurally difficult, Bell has developed a specific set of adaptations to compensate. Rather than committing to two-handed punches, he strikes first with his outside hand and keeps his inside hand in reserve. This enables him to protect his inside shoulder, avoiding vulnerability to various moves.

BGNation

5 hours ago, capmaster24 said:

So you are saying a player needs to be a finished product when he comes out of college and into the NFL? What is your opinion of Jordan Mailata as he entered the league? did he have any technique flaws in his game then?

Are you really making this assessment? A player can work on technique and learn things. If you were to critique a player coming out of college wouldn't it be more of an issue if you mentioned physical shortcomings that can't be improved? But instead you are saying he has bad technique? Really?

Can you enlighten us with specifics? That you don't feel can get better? And what is this " work around"?

Specifics would be good here, otherwise can you see where it just sounds vague? Like if you had your wife type this to try to make here sound like she knows football, but then give zero specifics. You are supposed to be a football expert, you should be able to give those specific flaws and why you don't think they can be fixed.

I never said a player needs to be completely polished coming out of college. Misrepresenting my thoughts. He developed this workaround because it’s something he can’t fix. Worked in college….the pros though? Doubtful. Very difficult to say he could apply this to RT also to become a swing T.

5 hours ago, capmaster24 said:

So you are saying a player needs to be a finished product when he comes out of college and into the NFL? What is your opinion of Jordan Mailata as he entered the league? did he have any technique flaws in his game then?

Are you really making this assessment? A player can work on technique and learn things. If you were to critique a player coming out of college wouldn't it be more of an issue if you mentioned physical shortcomings that can't be improved? But instead you are saying he has bad technique? Really?

Can you enlighten us with specifics? That you don't feel can get better? And what is this " work around"?

Specifics would be good here, otherwise can you see where it just sounds vague? Like if you had your wife type this to try to make here sound like she knows football, but then give zero specifics. You are supposed to be a football expert, you should be able to give those specific flaws and why you don't think they can be fixed.

Funny part is his physical shortcoming being he’s so tall.

3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Hard to fathom a college kid LEARNING 🤣

Learning to shrink to capably gain leverage?

3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Boy is Bernard in trouble with Ham because he didn't even know how to put on a helmet. Kids stop learning immediately after they leave college, didn't you know that?

A bunch of jabber talk acting like it’s countering anything I ever said. Sounds great unless you include facts. The facts are I’ve routinely talked about player development along with coaching development much more than any other poster here. Bell has real issues I’m talking about transitioning to become a pro.

46 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

A bunch of jabber talk acting like it’s countering anything I ever said. Sounds great unless you include facts. The facts are I’ve routinely talked about player development along with coaching development much more than any other poster here. Bell has real issues I’m talking about transitioning to become a pro.

His one handed jab was quite effective in college. Do you really see that working in the NFL? Anybody? Anybody? Bueller?

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

His one handed jab was quite effective in college. Do you really see that working in the NFL? Anybody? Anybody? Bueller?

Will get eaten alive by professionals!

5 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Boy is Bernard in trouble with Ham because he didn't even know how to put on a helmet. Kids stop learning immediately after they leave college, didn't you know that?

Some how in your head this statement made enough sense to post. I’ve never remotely stated anybody quits learning once they leave college. Instead have pointed out how much learning athletes are capable of with each year in the pros. To the extent pointed out how much further QBs have proven to be in their thirties. That’s pointing out the learning taking place eight years as a pro. You know….the exact opposite of the words you falsely are attempting to place in my mouth.

Not just pathetic by you on just the one issue. You doubled down on the exact opposite of my thinking. You then attempted to use my guy Uar Benard that I’ve posted so much about against me like I was totally against him.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Some how in your head this statement made enough sense to post. I’ve never remotely stated anybody quits learning once they leave college. Instead have pointed out how much learning athletes are capable of with each year in the pros. To the extent pointed out how much further QBs have proven to be in their thirties. That’s pointing out the learning taking place weight years as a pro. You know….the exact opposite of the words you falsely are attempting to place in my mouth.

Not just pathetic by you on just the one issue. You doubled down on the exact opposite of my thinking. You then attempted to use my guy Uar Benard that I’ve posted so much about against me like I was totally against him.

What rational thinking person would attempt this?

My whole take on my boy Eli Stowers was he’ll need time to develop but is going to be a heck of a player.

7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

My whole take on my boy Eli Stowers was he’ll need time to develop but is going to be a heck of a player.

Pretty much every TE in this class was going to take time to develop very few are asked to be inline blocking guys anymore. But the Eagles have been brining along TEs now for a while Celek to Ertz. Ertz to Geodart. Now Geodart to Stowers.

The real question was if Stowers was willing to be a blocker and early on sounds like yea that something he wants to add to his game

9 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He has serious flaws in his technique and game. He developed a work around at LT. That worked in college. Not so sure it can work in the pros the same at all. Moving to RT is a whole other beast for him.

The man didn’t let up a single sack in last season if he is that flawed that doesn’t happen. The kid is only 21 no real need to make any assumptions about him yet. He gets to sit and learn behind two of the best OT in the league for at least a season. Likely will get some playing time filling in. If he can become a good swing T for us king Dunlap, Big V type guy I’d count this as a win. Obviously best case scenario is he is the next great T for us but also not the end of the world if he isn’t either.

On 5/5/2026 at 9:10 PM, cunninghamtheman said:

plus not the large TE frame you’d like in the second. High ceiling…but never going to be a mauler TE. Believe he will put effort in blocking at least.

Doesn’t need to be a mauler TE it generally comes down to preference…. I mean Travis Kelce isn’t a mauler TE one of the best receiving TE to ever do it though. Eagles opted for the more receiver type TE this time. As for the large from not like Stowers is tiny still what just under 6’4 240(likely will add more to his frame with NFL coaches and diet) add in his jumping insane catch radius.

Don’t think anyone was expecting him to come in day 1 and be perfect TE was obviously going to need to develop some hence why Geodart is back and the starter for another season. Stowers gets to be the #2

On 5/5/2026 at 9:11 PM, cunninghamtheman said:

Bell: I’m slamming that pick. Early run on Oline forced the situation. I don’t like him. Don’t even see his ceiling as a starter.

What’s the point of instantly hating a pick this is going to be Jordan Davis all over again…. Hated Davis from day 1 and keep trying to downplay him every chance you get because you hated us drafting him.

Mind you Jordan Davis easily the best DL on the team last year wasn’t even really close

13 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

The man didn’t let up a single sack in last season if he is that flawed that doesn’t happen. The kid is only 21 no real need to make any assumptions about him yet. He gets to sit and learn behind two of the best OT in the league for at least a season. Likely will get some playing time filling in. If he can become a good swing T for us king Dunlap, Big V type guy I’d count this as a win. Obviously best case scenario is he is the next great T for us but also not the end of the world if he isn’t either.

The player himself acknowledges his flaws

5 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

What’s the point of instantly hating a pick this is going to be Jordan Davis all over again…. Hated Davis from day 1 and keep trying to downplay him every chance you get because you hated us drafting him.

Mind you Jordan Davis easily the best DL on the team last year wasn’t even really close

Yes wasn’t a fan of drafting Davis so high. But I haven’t just been nothing but against him. I’ve pointed out how good I believe he is as an influence on Carter. I happy Jordan Davis just finally gave enough a crap about his job he started working out. Hooray. Seems like some of my concerns and thoughts proved justified that he just wasn’t doing it before though.

14 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

What’s the point of instantly hating a pick this is going to be Jordan Davis all over again…. Hated Davis from day 1 and keep trying to downplay him every chance you get because you hated us drafting him.

Mind you Jordan Davis easily the best DL on the team last year wasn’t even really close

I give my two cents on most everything Eagles. Feel it was a positionally forced bad draft pick.

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Pretty much every TE in this class was going to take time to develop very few are asked to be inline blocking guys anymore. But the Eagles have been brining along TEs now for a while Celek to Ertz. Ertz to Geodart. Now Geodart to Stowers.

The real question was if Stowers was willing to be a blocker and early on sounds like yea that something he wants to add to his game

I’ve stated Stowers is willing blocker. That’s important. But we’ve been more reliant on blocking TE than most others. We’ve had so many snaps with a blocking WR or second blocking TE. That’s with Goedert being an excellent blocker. It really hurt us having Calc out there instead.

20 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yes wasn’t a fan of drafting Davis so high. But I haven’t just been nothing but against him. I’ve pointed out how good I believe he is as an influence on Carter. I happy Jordan Davis just finally gave enough a crap about his job he started working out. Hooray. Seems like some of my concerns and thoughts proved justified that he just wasn’t doing it before though.

He had a strong 2024 season as well was great against the run and even had his best stretch during the playoff run/SB…. Then builds on that being our best DL last season.

Again this is a young guy he just turned 26 shocker it took him little while tog DT his diet and weight under control

But your to busy being nothing but negative in anything regarding Davis