4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

the guy who ultimately ends up as the Eagles 3rd WR is someone who isn't on the roster yet"

Once again..................

Just now, joemas6 said:

Ertz and Agholor complimented each other really well in 2017.   The outside guys were good, not on the level of our current guys though.    If that slot guy (5th weapon) can step up and compliment Goddert... that's even better than 2017.   Especially with Barkley.   Then the issue remains the passing of the QB.   

Agreed,I want more than "congestion",I would like some nice production like over 500 yards and a few TD's from the slot as well as making 3rd down conversions a reality

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Ertz and Agholor complimented each other really well in 2017.   The outside guys were good, not on the level of our current guys though.    If that slot guy (5th weapon) can step up and compliment Goddert... that's even better than 2017.   Especially with Barkley.   Then the issue remains the passing of the QB.   

Also agreed Hurts needs to find the middle of the field,it's there every game LOL

I'm not having much luck,but I know there is some kind of completion map for QB's. I would be interested to see where Hurts throws and completes the most passes if someone can find that 

This was through 9 games last year. Yeah we need some production from the middle of the field. Barkley can help with that also

12 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Once again..................

once again.... how does that translate into A Smith not being on the roster?   

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

once again.... how does that translate into A Smith not being on the roster?   

Because he said that guy may not be on the roster?

4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So just off the cuff Hurts throws alot of int's in the middle(percentage wise). That slot can give him more confidence to throw there

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So just off the cuff Hurts throws alot of int's in the middle(percentage wise). That slot can give him more confidence to throw there

Alot of screens to the right for not much yardage. I'm looking for this offense to get more aggressive with more yards downfield. That deep middle is basically empty and that needs to change IMO

Struggles Over the Middle: A Familiar Tale

One major reason for the Bears moving on from Justin Fields was his difficulties as a passer, particularly when it came to throwing over the middle. Fields was often criticized for his hesitancy in this area.

Dan Wiederer of the Chicago Tribune highlighted this issue, stating, "Fields is seen as overly hesitant on throws across the middle and suffering from what one league source labeled ‘delayed vision’—not getting his eyes to open targets with proper timing and rhythm, instead allowing defensive backs added time to react."                Just sayin'

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/eagles-urged-to-sign-3-time-pro-bowler-versatile-chess-piece-for-vic-fangio/ar-BB1mniMi?rc=1&ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=7e35fc24f5e443319583f3a8a19f95e2&ei=8

6 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Julian Edlemen vs John Ross .... that's enough to not to have to write a book as to why long speed or a 40 time isn't all that matters. 

Plenty of slower WR have been successful. Very rare the combo of speed, size and height are in one package of a guy that can catch the ball.

But Edelman and slow WR really isn’t the discussion. It’s about what just pure speed can bring and provide to an O.

As a football player I’d think the idea of a WR catching the ball should be obvious.

Speed can stretch a D. Just can’t substitute what that can bring to an O. So we can discuss all the great pass catchers in the history of the game. Has nothing to do with what speed forces on a D.

6 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

That was JJ. I saw a guy with that "twitch" who could provide that quick window,but he also had immense speed with 2nd and 3rd gears to take it to the house. It's rare to see a WR who can excel in all 3 spots

I think the best can move around to any WR position

5 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Agreed,I want more than "congestion",I would like some nice production like over 500 yards and a few TD's from the slot as well as making 3rd down conversions a reality

Stats aren’t very crucial to me. Just need him to be viewed as a legit option.

Any slot guy posting stats tells me not a whole lot. I don’t need him getting garbage time stats. Or even piling up stats in one matchup so much. We need a guy to make a catch deep and to give a couple of underneath YAC plays.

That’s all we need for the O to rock it. Just need something each week.

9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Speed can stretch a D. Just can’t substitute what that can bring to an O. So we can discuss all the great pass catchers in the history of the game. Has nothing to do with what speed forces on a D.

Welp that's true if you have a QB who can throw 55 in the air,but Hurts is not that,so we need guys that can open windows that aren't that far away

7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Stats aren’t very crucial to me. Just need him to be viewed as a legit option.

Stats(or lack of them) are crucial if you aren't getting them in a certain area. You can see how empty the middle of the field has been at least through 9 games last year. It's easier for defenses if they KNOW you aren't going to the middle of the field(as shown). So any stats up from ZERO works for me

6 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

That was JJ. I saw a guy with that "twitch" who could provide that quick window,but he also had immense speed with 2nd and 3rd gears to take it to the house. It's rare to see a WR who can excel in all 3 spots

That’s how I saw his college teammate Chase

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Any slot guy posting stats tells me not a whole lot. I don’t need him getting garbage time stats. Or even piling up stats in one matchup so much. We need a guy to make a catch deep and to give a couple of underneath YAC plays.

Why does slot production have to be in garbage time???. JJ lit up the slot at LSU for 1800 yards. Don't tell me those were garbage time snaps LOL

7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Any slot guy posting stats tells me not a whole lot. I don’t need him getting garbage time stats. Or even piling up stats in one matchup so much. We need a guy to make a catch deep and to give a couple of underneath YAC plays.

IDK just understanding how Hurts plays and his limitations(all QB's have limits), it would seem to me a welcome site of having a reliable slot as another read for short yardage/third conversions.It's just my thought this would be more beneficial to him than a 4.2 burner. I think AJ and DSmith are fast enough to stretch a D