4 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Struggles Over the Middle: A Familiar Tale

One major reason for the Bears moving on from Justin Fields was his difficulties as a passer, particularly when it came to throwing over the middle. Fields was often criticized for his hesitancy in this area.

Dan Wiederer of the Chicago Tribune highlighted this issue, stating, "Fields is seen as overly hesitant on throws across the middle and suffering from what one league source labeled ‘delayed vision’—not getting his eyes to open targets with proper timing and rhythm, instead allowing defensive backs added time to react."                Just sayin'

Yet this is the guy you been backing

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yet this is the guy you been backing

What do you mean backing? he had no O line,The new QB won't have one either(they will have the same issues as before)

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yet this is the guy you been backing

Know another guy that doesn't throw over the middle? Fortunately we provide him with a top O line. Now he needs to make those type throws

19 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Welp that's true if you have a QB who can throw 55 in the air,but Hurts is not that,so we need guys that can open windows that aren't that far away

Just a Hurts hater comment

18 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Stats(or lack of them) are crucial if you aren't getting them in a certain area. You can see how empty the middle of the field has been at least through 9 games last year. It's easier for defenses if they KNOW you aren't going to the middle of the field(as shown). So any stats up from ZERO works for me

This is generally the idea. Need all the differences to force a D to cover everything.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Just a Hurts hater comment

Nah,it's understanding your QB,you should try it

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

This is generally the idea. Need all the differences to force a D to cover everything.

So that's why I want production from the slot, not just "garbage time"

18 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Why does slot production have to be in garbage time???. JJ lit up the slot at LSU for 1800 yards. Don't tell me those were garbage time snaps LOL

It absolutely doesn’t. Just talking about meaningful stats though. Just could use the balance each week. Season stats aren’t very relevant overall 

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It absolutely doesn’t. Just talking about meaningful stats though. Just could use the balance each week. Season stats aren’t very relevant overall 

Well as you can see by the chart,we aren't getting much in the middle. If teams know you won't or can't hit them there they have an advantage. I want a guy who makes them PAY for that./ That will force coverage

13 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

IDK just understanding how Hurts plays and his limitations(all QB's have limits), it would seem to me a welcome site of having a reliable slot as another read for short yardage/third conversions.It's just my thought this would be more beneficial to him than a 4.2 burner. I think AJ and DSmith are fast enough to stretch a D

AJ, DeVonta, Barkley and Goedert are the weapons we need to open things up for.  So a speedy slot WR would be ideal. Also needing that YAC creator guy underneath.

9 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

What do you mean backing? he had no O line,The new QB won't have one either(they will have the same issues as before)

You’ve been constantly talking about how you liked Fields. Blame his teammates.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

AJ, DeVonta, Barkley and Goedert are the weapons we need to open things up for.  So a speedy slot WR would be ideal. Also needing that YAC creator guy underneath.

We're not ever going to put a crazy slow WR on the field. Most WR's can run a 4.5 or better

10 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

What do you mean backing? he had no O line,The new QB won't have one either(they will have the same issues as before)

Caleb will look great…then you’ll actually see.

6 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Nah,it's understanding your QB,you should try it

I understand football. Speedy guy does much more than just need 70 yard passes.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You’ve been constantly talking about how you liked Fields. Blame his teammates.

I neither like him or hate him,just stating the facts that they never gave him an O line or weapons. I blame the owners for annoying bonehead moves,so they scapegoated him out,got a new guy and will be expecting miracles and they will not get them until they provide a solid O line

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I understand football. Speedy guy does much more than just need 70 yard passes.

So the slot needs twitch, and good hands not just  speed. Your 2 speedsters didn't do crap here(Quez and Reagor)

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I neither like him or hate him,just stating the facts that they never gave him an O line or weapons. I blame the owners for annoying bonehead moves,so they scapegoated him out,got a new guy and will be expecting miracles and they will not get them until they provide a solid O line

You said last offseason you thought the Bears would win their division

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I understand football. Speedy guy does much more than just need 70 yard passes.

Then there is little point in stretching defenses if you can't throw that far. There is not all that much difference between a 4.3 WR and a 4.4 and once again they ran that ONCE(or twice). Woo can run that consistently is the guy i want 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You said last offseason you thought the Bears would win their division

I don't recall that at all. They didn't have the team for me to say that

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You said last offseason you thought the Bears would win their division

Bu the POINT is they got rid of Fields and Hurts does the same thing at the moment. Now he needs to step up. Fields was the whole offense in Chicago. Now that he's gone maybe they figured things out LOL. I love DJ Moore always have. If they get an Oline yeah Caleb can be good

I was surprsied however at how fast the Lions made gains. Great coach

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/eagles-gm-howie-roseman-pushed-to-trade-for-24-year-old-browns-lb/ar-BB1mnnDR?rc=1&ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=b26e800a7c0746d8e6bdb52332ea6231&ei=9  FWIW

9 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Bu the POINT is they got rid of Fields and Hurts does the same thing at the moment. Now he needs to step up. Fields was the whole offense in Chicago. Now that he's gone maybe they figured things out LOL. I love DJ Moore always have. If they get an Oline yeah Caleb can be good

You’ve been missing it the whole time us what I’m telling you

You go to bat for Fields. Make excuses. But he doesn’t bring all the good traits Hurts does.

14 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Then there is little point in stretching defenses if you can't throw that far. There is not all that much difference between a 4.3 WR and a 4.4 and once again they ran that ONCE(or twice). Woo can run that consistently is the guy i want 

You are missing some key points I’m making here. I brought up how Siri still wanted Quez back from injury. Even sucking at catching …his speed opened things up.