May 14, 20242 yr Author BTW I don't know the extent of ASmiths fracture. It could be minimal or severe. Seems it was fairly minimal,so we'll see what happens in camp. He wasn't happy with his 40 time at pro day,but I have no idea what he could do. If he was unhappy with between 4.4 and 4.5 it makes me believe can run a sub 4.4. All unknowns at this time. He is also a different type than Paris or Parker. I would agree Paris gets the nod to begin the season
May 14, 20242 yr 22 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: I'm simply stating speed isnt the only factor. Has nothing to do with you bringing up this dead horse topic once AGAIN. But since we're going there AGAIN one or more of those 3 will play the slot spot. if you want to boot Ngata for yet another vet we need to pay then do that I agree with you and Roob. I don't have either Campbell or Parker as any lock to start. So I can see a possibility they get another vet later. You don't have to sell me on the shortcomings of Campbell or Parker... it's not badmouthing them by stating the obvious about why they were available for cheap.
May 14, 20242 yr 26 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: I'm simply stating speed isnt the only factor. Has nothing to do with you bringing up this dead horse topic once AGAIN. But since we're going there AGAIN one or more of those 3 will play the slot spot. if you want to boot Ngata for yet another vet we need to pay then do that Why wouldn't we just boot Campbell or Parker? That is the obvious move if neither is good enough to lock down a starting #3 spot. Ngata and the two draft picks are guys you want long term, they aren't going anywhere.
May 14, 20242 yr Author 1 minute ago, joemas6 said: I agree with you and Roob. I don't have either Campbell or Parker as any lock to start. So I can see a possibility they get another vet later. You don't have to sell me on the shortcomings of Campbell or Parker... it's not badmouthing them by stating the obvious about why they were available for cheap. So once again as a writer at this point in the season just say "there will be competition for the slot slot". There was no reason to say "that guy may not be on the roster" He could also have said at least we have that guy on the roster LOL. I just didn't like the wording he used. It wasn't needed. If Howie brings in more maybe those guys won't be on the roster either. Just did nothing to instill confidence for the rookie,so he shouldn't have said it. But once AGAIN that is MY OPINION and NOTHING you say will change MY OPINIION
May 14, 20242 yr 24 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: Speed is an element to the game that can’t be denied. Having a guy that vertically stretches the D changes things. That's a great element to have on the outside. You don't stretch the D from the slot....you work the middle and need more quickness than overall speed...the ability to get open in a phone booth. It's why the media all seem high on the potential A Smith can bring down the road.
May 14, 20242 yr Author 1 minute ago, joemas6 said: Why wouldn't we just boot Campbell or Parker? That is the obvious move if neither is good enough to lock down a starting #3 spot. Ngata and the two draft picks are guys you want long term, they aren't going anywhere. So boot them. That is a decision by the staff,not a writer
May 14, 20242 yr Author Just now, joemas6 said: That's a great element to have on the outside. You don't stretch the D from the slot....you work the middle and need more quickness than overall speed...the ability to get open in a phone booth. It's why the media all seem high on the potential A Smith can bring down the road. Yeah agree,the slot guy should have "twitch"
May 14, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said: So once again as a writer at this point in the season just say "there will be competition for the slot slot". There was no reason to say "that guy may not be on the roster" He could also have said at least we have that guy on the roster LOL. I just didn't like the wording he used. It wasn't needed. If Howie brings in more maybe those guys won't be on the roster either. Just did nothing to instill confidence for the rookie,so he shouldn't have said it. But once AGAIN that is MY OPINION and NOTHING you say will change MY OPINIION " that guy may not be on the roster " ... was saying that if either vet doesn't do well enough, they may go outside to bring in another one. Why so you care so much about Parker and Campbell. You couldn't see a possibility that they may decide to get a guy like Renfrow for example to come in if those two suck?
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May 14, 20242 yr Author Just now, joemas6 said: " that guy may not be on the roster " ... was saying that if either vet doesn't do well enough, they may go outside to bring in another one. Why so you care so much about Parker and Campbell. You couldn't see a possibility that they may decide to get a guy like Renfrow for example to come in if those two suck? I don't care about them,I just felt the rookie didn't need to hear the negative press right off the bat. ASmith fully intends to be on the roster
May 14, 20242 yr 2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: So boot them. That is a decision by the staff,not a writer Again... when speaking specifically about a position... why wouldn't there be a possibility that a guy like Howie... who year after year gets players right as the season starts... wouldn't make a move? I don't get your fascination with limiting the possibilities and being so locked in on two WRs we got off the scrap heap?
May 14, 20242 yr Author 2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2024/5/6/24150300/rashaad-penny-panthers-nfl-news-eagles-running-back-fantasy-football-miles-sanders-seahawks-canales Maybe Penny will play in NC,lord Knows Sanders was a washout
May 14, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said: I don't care about them,I just felt the rookie didn't need to hear the negative press right off the bat. ASmith fully intends to be on the roster Hunh? The rookie is a late round guy, he has no pressure to start year 1. Had nothing to do with him??
May 14, 20242 yr Author 1 minute ago, joemas6 said: Again... when speaking specifically about a position... why wouldn't there be a possibility that a guy like Howie... who year after year gets players right as the season starts... wouldn't make a move? I don't get your fascination with limiting the possibilities and being so locked in on two WRs we got off the scrap heap? LOL my "concern" was for ASmith who fully intends to be on the roster and it was foolish for Roob to lip off that "he may not be on the roster". So maybe he can't transition and gets cut,but rooks coming in want to feel confidence and Roobs comments undermined that.
May 14, 20242 yr 2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: Maybe Penny will play in NC,lord Knows Sanders was a washout Sanders blows!
May 14, 20242 yr Author 1 minute ago, joemas6 said: Hunh? The rookie is a late round guy, he has no pressure to start year 1. Had nothing to do with him?? If he goes on the PS he will be poached,book it
May 14, 20242 yr Author 2 minutes ago, joemas6 said: Hunh? The rookie is a late round guy, he has no pressure to start year 1. Had nothing to do with him?? I'm expecting ASmith to play at some point,even as the returner,but since "that guy may not be on the roster" just cut him now
May 14, 20242 yr Author 2 minutes ago, joemas6 said: Sanders blows! He was awful in NC LOL Penny should be better even if he's bad LOL
May 14, 20242 yr Just now, GreenbleedinNC said: LOL my "concern" was for ASmith who fully intends to be on the roster and it was foolish for Roob to lip off that "he may not be on the roster". So maybe he can't transition and gets cut,but rooks coming in want to feel confidence and Roobs comments undermined that. Right....Smith will be on the roster. Nobody said otherwise. He wasn't saying Smith wasn't going to be on the roster! That's the guy everyone wants to win the job. The guy they are excited about his future. There is absolutely a possibility he won't start day 1. He may not be ready or they want to bring him along slowly. If that's the case..and Parker and Campbell don't impress... then we would hope Howie brings in someone " that isn't on the roster" to replace one or both of those vets.
May 14, 20242 yr 3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: If he goes on the PS he will be poached,book it He isn't going on practice squad. Why would you say that?
May 14, 20242 yr 2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: I'm expecting ASmith to play at some point,even as the returner,but since "that guy may not be on the roster" just cut him now Ohhhh.... I get it now. You are saying that Roob was saying that A Smith may not be on the roster??? Lol. That's clearly not what he said. He said it's possible that the guy who starts as the #3 WR ..." that guy may not be on the roster" ...as in right now. Lol ..he wasn't saying Smith wasn't going to be on the roster....lol.
May 14, 20242 yr Wow...no wonder you got all fired up...lol. I was trying to figure out how you were so upset about the possibility of replacing Campbell or Parker...while you were pointing out their flaws at the same time...lol. made no sense.
May 14, 20242 yr 32 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/eagles-rookie-wr-ainias-smith-provides-injury-update/ar-BB1m2iZr No rush we will bring him along. Some of his draft drop was because of this stress fracture that prevented him from the combine and he was also probably a bit shy of going full tilt at his Pro day. He will play when the staff feels comfortable doing so Absolutely... doesn't have to start day 1
May 14, 20242 yr " There are some intriguing options, and I'd expect Parker to get the first crack at it, but I also think there's a fair chance that the guy who ultimately ends up as the Eagles 3rd WR is someone who isn't on the roster yet" Not sure how that translates to any insult to A Smith or where it implies that A Smith will not be on the roster????
May 14, 20242 yr 27 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: It's still not a straight line route as coverage would move to disrupt him No doubt I fully understand that point you are leaning towards about the difference in track speed and football field speed. The fact always remains this a quality that is just uncoachable. Many ways to look at the topic of just flat out long speed. Guys that possess elite levels of speed you clearly are banking on three routes starting off their route trees as a WR. The Go, the Post and the Corner. Then you should be able to add in crossing routes if they can handle the traffic and tough mentality it takes to go across the middle of the D. Which is actually asking quite a bit. Not really the most common bedfellow of traits super fast and having the tough nerves of steel. So just having a WR run deep stretches the D. Gotta start off with thinking about AJ and DeVonta outside. The Slot field stretcher creates conflict with one or even both S. Just even a moments hesitation by a S on moving towards either outside stud WR makes a huge difference for those two guys. The room it provides Goedert to work can be completely O changing. Goedert is a special TE weapon with the ball in his hands. So any defenders cleared out opens up massive YAC potential for him to take advantage of. Just think how well Goedert has produced while having Quez, Oz, Julio and Stoll on the field with him. Guys that didn’t clear out any room…just congested things. Then you finally get to the RB and even QB rushing. The areas opened up become massive with a legit speedster target from the slot.
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