June 9, 20241 yr Just now, GreenbleedinNC said: As far as Hurts falling down,sorry, he needs to fight for the yardage like he used to do, not fall down. And while it's great to avoid injury,you are now being paid to perform at the highest level and like it or not Hurts wasn't. Kenny is actually the better passer in my book. Hurts needs to up his game. I don't WANT him to be the offense. he has a TOP RB now,weapons galore,there are no more excuses to be had. I hope he can take the steps he needs to and I am looking forward to that They preached the opposite. He's being paid and is so crucially needed he can’t afford to get taken out.
June 9, 20241 yr Just now, GreenbleedinNC said: WR's DON'T make reads,they run ROUTES. The QB needs to make the reads not the WR's Not true at all. WR absolutely make reads on their routes based on the D. Break it off if a huge blitz read happens. Adjust to the pass coverage leverage in other situations. WR totally should be making reads…frequently.
June 9, 20241 yr Author 1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said: They preached the opposite. He's being paid and is so crucially needed he can’t afford to get taken out. The we fail because top QB's give all they have
June 9, 20241 yr Author Just now, cunninghamtheman said: Not true at all. WR absolutely make reads on their routes based on the D. Break it off if a huge blitz read happens. Adjust to the pass coverage leverage in other situations. WR totally should be making reads…frequently. Those adjustments are made in the 15 seconds before the snap. They may change the route,but the QB makes the reads
June 9, 20241 yr Author 1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said: WRs read to find holes in Zone coverage also. Not a read,that is an adjustment to the route
June 9, 20241 yr Just now, GreenbleedinNC said: The we fail because top QB's give all they have Think he needs to strike a quality balance. He took a beating last season. We need him to live to okay another play. Get down (or out of bounds)on second down two yards before taking the big hit. Rather accept third and 6 than Hurts taking the big hit for third and 4.
June 9, 20241 yr Author Just now, cunninghamtheman said: Think he needs to strike a quality balance. He took a beating last season. We need him to live to okay another play. Get down (or out of bounds)on second down two yards before taking the big hit. Rather accept third and 6 than Hurts taking the big hit for third and 4. Another learning point is at times you just need to throw it away and live for another play. he gets pounded at times when he fails to do that trying too hard to make things happen. He needs to play smarter that's all
June 9, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: Those adjustments are made in the 15 seconds before the snap. They may change the route,but the QB makes the reads They all make the reads and need to be on the same page. WRs absolutely make post snap reads. It was right there in the quote from Hurts about what makes an O system. You need to read that. He told you all these key details point blank.
June 9, 20241 yr Just now, GreenbleedinNC said: Another learning point is at times you just need to throw it away and live for another play. he gets pounded at times when he fails to do that trying too hard to make things happen. He needs to play smarter that's all Not disagreeing with this. And it’s unnatural for him to play like that. He’s a competitor that wants to fight and make the play…every time. He’s got to figure that balance out here.
June 9, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: Not a read,that is an adjustment to the route Adjustments and reads were in the Hurts quote.
June 9, 20241 yr Are the receivers going to adjust to find the hole in the zone reading the coverage? Are the receivers going to read the DBs leverage and adjust according on his route? Are the receivers going to go to a Hot Route reading a blitz situation?
June 9, 20241 yr Author 1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said: They all make the reads and need to be on the same page. WRs absolutely make post snap reads. It was right there in the quote from Hurts about what makes an O system. You need to read that. He told you all these key details point blank. Once again it's not a read it's a route adjustment. as the game goes on or perhaps you already know your opponent,you know where things can be exploited. QB calls a pass play,the WR will say +8,that will tell the QB where the break comes. The WR has adjusted the route,now the QB has to read where the window comes. We are arguing semantics here but they ARE different
June 9, 20241 yr But Hurts pointing out he needs to understand whether a receiver has reads built in or not on the playcall.
June 9, 20241 yr Author 4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: Not disagreeing with this. And it’s unnatural for him to play like that. He’s a competitor that wants to fight and make the play…every time. He’s got to figure that balance out here. Yeah I get that. And I agree,but he has to play smarter football. You can't take a JV sack in the EZ. He knows better(or should) by now. You can't take the safety no matter what system you have or don't have
June 9, 20241 yr Author 1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said: But Hurts pointing out he needs to understand whether a receiver has reads built in or not on the playcall. Right, Hurts needs to READ the WR ADJUSTMENTS -correct
June 9, 20241 yr Just now, GreenbleedinNC said: Right Hurts needs to READ the WR ADJUSTMENTS correct Its not just WR…TE and RB too…but they need to read and adjust.
June 9, 20241 yr Just now, cunninghamtheman said: Its not just WR…TE and RB too…but they need to read and adjust. Hurts needs to have the understanding and be on the same page with what his targets read and adjustment will be.
June 9, 20241 yr Author 1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said: Its not just WR…TE and RB too…but they need to read and adjust. OK spinning wheels here LOL. The players make the adjustments and Hurts job is to read them and deliver the ball
June 9, 20241 yr Author 2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: Hurts needs to have the understanding and be on the same page with what his targets read and adjustment will be. receiver adjustments are made pre snap,Hurts makes the reads post snap. Don't make it harder than it is LOL
June 9, 20241 yr Author This has been my bash about Siri not making adjustments on the fly. Smith could tell him "I can beat this guy,but I need 3 yards farther downfield".Siri should then adjust the play calls telling Hurts what Smith said. That is an adjustment to the route(s). Siri waits to process all this until 1/2 time and it drives me insane LOL
June 9, 20241 yr Author 3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: This has been my bash about Siri not making adjustments on the fly. Smith could tell him "I can beat this guy,but I need 3 yards farther downfield".Siri should then adjust the play calls telling Hurts what Smith said. That is an adjustment to the route(s). Siri waits to process all this until 1/2 time and it drives me insane LOL Andy Reid is a master at this and caused us to lose the SB in part. Siri was outcoached
June 9, 20241 yr "So that’s exactly what makes it different. The X’s and O’s, the lines on the paper, they may very well be what they’re supposed to be but how I coach and how I detail these routes, how I coach the quarterback, what I want his timing to be, where I want him looking, where I want his eyes. Are receivers reading routes? Are they not reading routes? Are there alerts on this? Are there checks and adjustments built in on this? Or is there something that someone has to do, that the quarterback has to do? That’s what makes a system a system.” I’ll just post Hurts quote once again.
June 9, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: "So that’s exactly what makes it different. The X’s and O’s, the lines on the paper, they may very well be what they’re supposed to be but how I coach and how I detail these routes, how I coach the quarterback, what I want his timing to be, where I want him looking, where I want his eyes. Are receivers reading routes? Are they not reading routes? Are there alerts on this? Are there checks and adjustments built in on this? Or is there something that someone has to do, that the quarterback has to do? That’s what makes a system a system.” I’ll just post Hurts quote once again. There is more he’s saying before this in his presser…but yeah…he’s speaking of how a system is being coached.
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