June 9, 20242 yr Just now, GreenbleedinNC said: Another learning point is at times you just need to throw it away and live for another play. he gets pounded at times when he fails to do that trying too hard to make things happen. He needs to play smarter that's all Not disagreeing with this. And it’s unnatural for him to play like that. He’s a competitor that wants to fight and make the play…every time. He’s got to figure that balance out here.
June 9, 20242 yr 4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: Not a read,that is an adjustment to the route Adjustments and reads were in the Hurts quote.
June 9, 20242 yr Are the receivers going to adjust to find the hole in the zone reading the coverage? Are the receivers going to read the DBs leverage and adjust according on his route? Are the receivers going to go to a Hot Route reading a blitz situation?
June 9, 20242 yr Author 1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said: They all make the reads and need to be on the same page. WRs absolutely make post snap reads. It was right there in the quote from Hurts about what makes an O system. You need to read that. He told you all these key details point blank. Once again it's not a read it's a route adjustment. as the game goes on or perhaps you already know your opponent,you know where things can be exploited. QB calls a pass play,the WR will say +8,that will tell the QB where the break comes. The WR has adjusted the route,now the QB has to read where the window comes. We are arguing semantics here but they ARE different
June 9, 20242 yr But Hurts pointing out he needs to understand whether a receiver has reads built in or not on the playcall.
June 9, 20242 yr Author 4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: Not disagreeing with this. And it’s unnatural for him to play like that. He’s a competitor that wants to fight and make the play…every time. He’s got to figure that balance out here. Yeah I get that. And I agree,but he has to play smarter football. You can't take a JV sack in the EZ. He knows better(or should) by now. You can't take the safety no matter what system you have or don't have
June 9, 20242 yr Author 1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said: But Hurts pointing out he needs to understand whether a receiver has reads built in or not on the playcall. Right, Hurts needs to READ the WR ADJUSTMENTS -correct
June 9, 20242 yr Just now, GreenbleedinNC said: Right Hurts needs to READ the WR ADJUSTMENTS correct Its not just WR…TE and RB too…but they need to read and adjust.
June 9, 20242 yr Just now, cunninghamtheman said: Its not just WR…TE and RB too…but they need to read and adjust. Hurts needs to have the understanding and be on the same page with what his targets read and adjustment will be.
June 9, 20242 yr Author 1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said: Its not just WR…TE and RB too…but they need to read and adjust. OK spinning wheels here LOL. The players make the adjustments and Hurts job is to read them and deliver the ball
June 9, 20242 yr Author 2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: Hurts needs to have the understanding and be on the same page with what his targets read and adjustment will be. receiver adjustments are made pre snap,Hurts makes the reads post snap. Don't make it harder than it is LOL
June 9, 20242 yr Author This has been my bash about Siri not making adjustments on the fly. Smith could tell him "I can beat this guy,but I need 3 yards farther downfield".Siri should then adjust the play calls telling Hurts what Smith said. That is an adjustment to the route(s). Siri waits to process all this until 1/2 time and it drives me insane LOL
June 9, 20242 yr Author 3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: This has been my bash about Siri not making adjustments on the fly. Smith could tell him "I can beat this guy,but I need 3 yards farther downfield".Siri should then adjust the play calls telling Hurts what Smith said. That is an adjustment to the route(s). Siri waits to process all this until 1/2 time and it drives me insane LOL Andy Reid is a master at this and caused us to lose the SB in part. Siri was outcoached
June 9, 20242 yr "So that’s exactly what makes it different. The X’s and O’s, the lines on the paper, they may very well be what they’re supposed to be but how I coach and how I detail these routes, how I coach the quarterback, what I want his timing to be, where I want him looking, where I want his eyes. Are receivers reading routes? Are they not reading routes? Are there alerts on this? Are there checks and adjustments built in on this? Or is there something that someone has to do, that the quarterback has to do? That’s what makes a system a system.” I’ll just post Hurts quote once again.
June 9, 20242 yr 4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: "So that’s exactly what makes it different. The X’s and O’s, the lines on the paper, they may very well be what they’re supposed to be but how I coach and how I detail these routes, how I coach the quarterback, what I want his timing to be, where I want him looking, where I want his eyes. Are receivers reading routes? Are they not reading routes? Are there alerts on this? Are there checks and adjustments built in on this? Or is there something that someone has to do, that the quarterback has to do? That’s what makes a system a system.” I’ll just post Hurts quote once again. There is more he’s saying before this in his presser…but yeah…he’s speaking of how a system is being coached.
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June 9, 20242 yr 11 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said: Are you referring to our new O system …you bounced away from? Go back and check even one time when I referred to our " O system " At this point ...I've moved on from thinking it's narcissism...to just plain stupidity.
June 9, 20242 yr 11 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said: Nice discussion with no name calling,very refreshing. Have a great night 1 hour ago, joemas6 said: Go back and check even one time when I referred to our " O system " At this point ...I've moved on from thinking it's narcissism...to just plain stupidity. Guess that didn’t last long
June 9, 20242 yr 1 hour ago, joemas6 said: Go back and check even one time when I referred to our " O system " At this point ...I've moved on from thinking it's narcissism...to just plain stupidity. I was talking about Hurts quote. Then you went off rambling about comparing our contract negotiations with the cowboys for the hundredth time…the team who’s owner went on the all in to try and win a championship Bubble burst on contracts…because he was feeling his ownership mortality sinking in.
June 9, 20242 yr 5 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said: I was talking about Hurts quote. Then you went off rambling about comparing our contract negotiations with the cowboys for the hundredth time…the team who’s owner went on the all in to try and win a championship Bubble burst on contracts…because he was feeling his ownership mortality sinking in. Lol.... you weren’t talking O with me....your last post quoting 2 people talking about 2 completely different things shows exactly why it's difficult to converse with you. You only follow yourself and don't pay attention to the other people in the conversation.
June 9, 20242 yr Just now, joemas6 said: Lol.... you weren’t talking O with me....your last post quoting 2 people talking about 2 completely different things shows exactly why it's difficult to converse with you. You only follow yourself and don't pay attention to the other people in the conversation. Why you have no clue after I've tried to explain the cap and the advantages of doing it the way the whole league...including the Eagles do them...with the Eagles just jumping ahead to get the core player locked up early. But...that's apparently licking Howie's nuts.
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