17 hours ago, joemas6 said:

I think he definitely relied on Hurts not being mentally advanced for an NFL QB...for sure.

No you’ve called Hurts dumb…and now not mentally advanced. The truth is on this instance especially you aren’t mentally advanced enough in YOUR football knowledge. Your misunderstanding trying to find reasons to tear down our QB1. You’re wrong! Flat out myth busted!

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yeah Hurts and every other QB in the league he’s figured out how to shut down their best play.

Coaching 101. Coaching 102 is how do you do it?. Every teams defensive goal is to take away their best O player. Not rocket science

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

No you’ve called Hurts dumb…and now not mentally advanced. The truth is on this instance especially you aren’t mentally advanced enough in YOUR football knowledge. Your misunderstanding trying to find reasons to tear down our QB1. You’re wrong! Flat out myth busted!

Hurts is not advanced for the amount of time he has played. Last year was basically wasted. There was no QB progression due to lack of challenging play calls. Hurts needs to be challenged to reach the next level. You don't get better unless someone puts another goal if front of you. Let's hope Moore does that and makes Hurts learn. It will make him better. We slopped our way to a 10-1 start last year, but when the going got tough the tough went out for lunch. Hurts needs to graduate from college. In the experience Hurts has had playing,you simply cannot take an EZ sack. QB 101 and is was a sad sight to see. 2 bonehead plays when it mattered so yep, he needs to advance mentally and stop the stupid errors as well as view the WHOLE field on EVERY play

5 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

No you’ve called Hurts dumb…and now not mentally advanced. The truth is on this instance especially you aren’t mentally advanced enough in YOUR football knowledge. Your misunderstanding trying to find reasons to tear down our QB1. You’re wrong! Flat out myth busted!

Lol... ham the stan!

6 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Coaching 101. Coaching 102 is how do you do it?. Every teams defensive goal is to take away their best O player. Not rocket science

Bellicheat has been the best at it probably of anybody ever. Of course …some of that might have to do with how he earned that nickname.

6 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Hurts is not advanced for the amount of time he has played. Last year was basically wasted. There was no QB progression due to lack of challenging play calls. Hurts needs to be challenged to reach the next level. You don't get better unless someone puts another goal if front of you. Let's hope Moore does that and makes Hurts learn. It will make him better. We slopped our way to a 10-1 start last year, but when the going got tough the tough went out for lunch. Hurts needs to graduate from college. In the experience Hurts has had playing,you simply cannot take an EZ sack. QB 101 and is was a sad sight to see. 2 bonehead plays when it mattered so yep, he needs to advance mentally and stop the stupid errors as well as view the WHOLE field on EVERY play

Now the Safety against Tamp Bay is a more legitimate complaint. But what did you want Hurts to do? No receivers got open. The pocket pushed all the way back to the endzone.  He couldn’t get outside of the pocket to legally throw the ball away…that would have still been a Safety being still inside the T. He had to throw the ball away….but close enough to a receiver so it wouldn’t be called intentional grounding….but also nothing that would result in an interception. Tough play…all the way around. My main point would be if he had AJ for that game…much more likely somebody would have been open. He slung the rock to DeVonta a bunch that game. Why Siri’s dumb butt played AJ and Hurts that pointless last regular season game to get injured is beyond me.

 

On 6/11/2024 at 1:16 PM, joemas6 said:

A QB needs to scan the whole field prior to taking the snap.  

And become the HC, OC and playcaller to be in that position much less. Of course that all just gets in the way of Hurts Hating agenda. So carry on blaming Hurts only for all ails.

DeVonta Smith had 148 yards receiving in that playoff game. Hurts clearly was maxing out utilizing him.

15 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

 

Think he does a good job here explaining the situation.

28 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

And become the HC, OC and playcaller to be in that position much less. Of course that all just gets in the way of Hurts Hating agenda. So carry on blaming Hurts only for all ails.

Would Manning,  Brees or Brady be able to see the field there? What do you think the result of the play would have been if the same coverage was there with Harrison, Moss or Michael Thomas in the position where AJ was on this play?

Just now, joemas6 said:

Would Manning,  Brees or Brady be able to see the field there? What do you think the result of the play would have been if the same coverage was there with Harrison, Moss or Michael Thomas in the position where AJ was on this play?

If Burrow was QB with Chase in the position AJ was?   Allen with Diggs....Dak with Lamb?  

Do they become head coach or OC here... or is it just  NFL level mental ability playing QB? 

It's not rocket science....you scan the field...they are a man short in the side of your best player... he gets the ball.  It's Taylor made situation. 

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

If Burrow was QB with Chase in the position AJ was?   Allen with Diggs....Dak with Lamb?  

Do they become head coach or OC here... or is it just  NFL level mental ability playing QB? 

It's not rocket science....you scan the field...they are a man short in the side of your best player... he gets the ball.  It's Taylor made situation. 

They aren’t a man short. There are three defenders with three receivers.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Ok boys and girls in this exercise we will work on counting. How many defenders are on the bottom of the screenshot past the Oline? 1…..2….3. Very good counting. You can even notice how the LB is shading  on the strong side. 

You are ignoring that Bellicheat is playing against the RPO. Whether he’s tapped into the headsets, is reading some ‘tell’….he knows and sees the play we are running. Which was extremely common in our offensive playcalling the second half of last season. Should Hurts have taken control of the playcalling duties and changed the plays more than half our O snaps? Probably. 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LUGp69L1ryc&pp=ygUkUGF0cmlvdHMgc2h1dCBkb3duIHJwbyB2ZXJzdXMgZWFnbGVz

 

Here is Pedey when he was coaching the Eagles and Carson Wentz on how to run the RPO. High school or college O…whatever you wish to call this play that most of the NFL runs. Since it’s not Hurts running it in this video maybe it can help get rid of the blinders for some.
  

On 6/11/2024 at 8:00 PM, cunninghamtheman said:

haven’t been hearing that stuff so much

Then you’re not reading or hearing the same things as me since multiple different articles I’ve read have praised Pickett throughout OTAs and have talked about the Hurts. And I haven’t heard much of anything on McKee at all 

6 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Ohh... this is like your cover 3 scenario where you see a guy 10 yards away and expect him to make the play because it's like a video game where he can make run faster than everyone else.

When we played this coverage last year the opponent took the gimme play...but can't blame Hurts for anything.  He can't play big boy QB..he is a ...how do you put it...." yes massa" QB just doing what he is told. 

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Then you’re not reading or hearing the same things as me since multiple different articles I’ve read have praised Pickett throughout OTAs and have talked about the Hurts. And I haven’t heard much of anything on McKee at all 

Ham doesn't hear or read anything that could be any negative towards his boy... total denial of all the talk about his negative demeanor and lack of leadership on the sideline...where AJ and Siri had to do a little extra to make up for it. Total disregard from Ham that this was a topic for a few weeks all over the media here.

6 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You are ignoring that Bellicheat is playing against the RPO. Whether he’s tapped into the headsets, is reading some ‘tell’….he knows and sees the play we are running. Which was extremely common in our offensive playcalling the second half of last season. Should Hurts have taken control of the playcalling duties and changed the plays more than half our O snaps? Probably. 

Yes massa

https://www.nj.com/eagles/2024/06/ex-eagles-pro-bowler-jalen-hurts-is-risking-becoming-a-malcontent.html?outputType=amp
 

Can’t say I’m a fan of the early OTA divide the media is trying to bring

8 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Then you’re not reading or hearing the same things as me since multiple different articles I’ve read have praised Pickett throughout OTAs and have talked about the Hurts. And I haven’t heard much of anything on McKee at all 

It’s good to share the differing information going around.

8 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Ohh... this is like your cover 3 scenario where you see a guy 10 yards away and expect him to make the play because it's like a video game where he can make run faster than everyone else.

When we played this coverage last year the opponent took the gimme play...but can't blame Hurts for anything.  He can't play big boy QB..he is a ...how do you put it...." yes massa" QB just doing what he is told. 

It is like the Cover 3 scenario, is right. You misunderstood that situation similarly. Because the outside corner 7 yards off didn’t have the short outside responsibility to run and have to make that play. That is the slot Cb’s responsibility. So in both situations what you really aren’t liking are the playcalling by the coordinators.