3 hours ago, joemas6 said:

But it's just to set up for the coaching change next year....this work isn't for trying to win this year🤦

We should be goooooood by 2029!!!!

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Hopefully help for years to come. I like how Hurts is taking it on himself to help develop Johnny Wilson. What a huge piece to the puzzle he could be.

LMAO I have no words HAHAHAHA. Hurts needs to develop Hurts

4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Because they had a much better team last season 

That inherited Kellen Moore offense really was clicking huh? But they weren't better. But they also didn't collapse/fail. Except for that 1 inch Dak couldn't reach for the TD

28 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

That's what we keep asking for and you call us haters. We want Hurts to have all of it

No…you don’t want him to have it all. That’s what I’m asking for.

27 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

No…you don’t want him to have it all. That’s what I’m asking for.

You're delusional my friend. WE want ALL of our players to succeed.

55 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

No…you don’t want him to have it all. That’s what I’m asking for.

I wish Jaworski,  Cunningham,McNabb, Vick,  Foles and Wentz had what Hurts has to work with ... brutal OLs... pathetic WRs... Josh Adams at RB.    

Barkley, Goedert,  AJ,Smith and multiple all pro OL... never been close to this for any other QB

The front office had to do this after drafting Hurts and getting rid of the previous  coach and QB.   

It's what annoys me about the front office..  why did it take this long to figure out instead of giving the other QBs some awful teammates???

39 minutes ago, EaglesTD123 said:

You're delusional my friend. WE want ALL of our players to succeed.

So wouldn’t they deserve the top coaches we can get hold of?

8 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I wish Jaworski,  Cunningham,McNabb, Vick,  Foles and Wentz had what Hurts has to work with ... brutal OLs... pathetic WRs... Josh Adams at RB.    

Barkley, Goedert,  AJ,Smith and multiple all pro OL... never been close to this for any other QB

The front office had to do this after drafting Hurts and getting rid of the previous  coach and QB.   

It's what annoys me about the front office..  why did it take this long to figure out instead of giving the other QBs some awful teammates???

You’re getting closer….to seeing through the real issues at hand.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

No…you don’t want him to have it all. That’s what I’m asking for.

Tell me how "taking it upon himself to help Johnny"(we have coaches and other WR's for that) and working with teammates(which every Q has done since there was organized football) makes him a better decision maker and gives him better field vision. I'll wait. Of course we never can get an answer out of you without 14 pages of diversions

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Tell me how "taking it upon himself to help Johnny"(we have coaches and other WR's for that) and working with teammates(which every Q has done since there was organized football) makes him a better decision maker and gives him better field vision. I'll wait. Of course we never can get an answer out of you without 14 pages of diversions

If you wanted him to have it all,then you;d be pulling for the same things the rest of us want to see materialize

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Tell me how "taking it upon himself to help Johnny"(we have coaches and other WR's for that) and working with teammates(which every Q has done since there was organized football) makes him a better decision maker and gives him better field vision. I'll wait. Of course we never can get an answer out of you without 14 pages of diversions

So how is he supposed to do what you want him to accomplish? Or more to the point who’s job is it to?

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So how is he supposed to do what you want him to accomplish? Or more to the point whose job is it to?

Sounds to me like you’d prefer him to receive better coaching in a better scheme.

18 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So how is he supposed to do what you want him to accomplish? Or more to the point who’s job is it to?

He has, like most QB's physical limitations. He has tools to overcome them or make them not as glaring. Example-he is short in stature. it makes it more challenging for him to see the middle of the field. He is a gifted runner. Use that tool to move into a clear passing lane,not panic run for the sidelines every time pressure comes. Teams know he will run and not throw once they get him on the move. If he offers passing when pressured like that he becomes less predictable and harder to pressure. It's an additional skill in his tool box. he can run drills offered by coaches(team or private ones) that will make him do more reads faster. Last year was just awful for his development for a variety of reasons,yet he should have been working on those things anyway. His deep ball is improving,there will be a point where he cannot throw any farther. All QB's have limits(Favre threw for 74 in the air at the QB competition). We can't expect that from Jalen,but Jalen would run circles around Favre. Perhaps he can be assisted with his middle of the field vision by the coaching staff extending plays in the middle further downfield. he has issues seeing those 5 yard breaking patterns because of the presence of huge linemen in his field of vision. Extending those break to say 8 yard not 5 would give him the chance to move in the pocket to see the open lane. There are many small things he can do. Run a QB drill where he has 6 seconds to hit 5 sleds,then 5 seconds,then 5 seconds being rushed. baby steps will get you there but he needs to take them

Commentators in multiple games repeated the comment of our O was going to be Hurts avoiding the rush and then resetting to throw downfield. They weren’t sure the exact playcall….but this was so predictably happening.

You get 5 guys kneeling next to him for that drill I mentioned,tossing balls into him one after the other. See if he can get 5 passes out and hit 5 sleds in 6 seconds to start with,then you just keep adding more things until you have a guy that can burn you every down

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Commentators in multiple games repeated the comment of our O was going to be Hurts avoiding the rush and then resetting to throw downfield. They weren’t sure the exact playcall….but this was so predictably happening.

You know pretty much the opposite of what you’re saying. Not just me…..it was exactly our ‘O Scheme.” Multiple tv commentators said this about what our O was about to do.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Commentators in multiple games repeated the comment of our O was going to be Hurts avoiding the rush and then resetting to throw downfield. They weren’t sure the exact playcall….but this was so predictably happening.

Except he didn't reset enough,he took off for the sideline or dumped off that 1 yarder to Goedert (also trapped on the sideline)

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You know pretty much the opposite of what you’re saying. Not just me…..it was exactly our ‘O Scheme.” Multiple tv commentators said this about what our O was about to do.

Try viewing the pass chart for Hurts and you will see a miniscule amount of middle of the field passing. He's not using 25% of the field

But I definitely have been onboard the thinking of quick passing scheme. Sounds like watch Coach Doug started OTAs having him get repetitions.

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Try viewing the pass chart for Hurts and you will see a miniscule amount of middle of the field passing. He's not using 25% of the field

That's 100 yards of grass between the hash marks that teams don't need to defend until he proves them wrong

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Except he didn't reset enough,he took off for the sideline or dumped off that 1 yarder to Goedert (also trapped on the sideline)

He chucked it downfield usually for big plays. But yeah…then imagine this? Pro D minds adapted accordingly.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But I definitely have been onboard the thinking of quick passing scheme. Sounds like watch Coach Doug started OTAs having him get repetitions.

In Hurts defense Goedert was totally misused as an outlet for him,thats a great quick target he was denied last year

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

That's 100 yards of grass between the hash marks that teams don't need to defend until he proves them wrong

First that should come from the Slot WR. Do you think he’s just been underutilizing our third WRs?

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

That's 100 yards of grass between the hash marks that teams don't need to defend until he proves them wrong

Guess he’s just been throwing to AJ and Devonta mostly?

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

In Hurts defense Goedert was totally misused as an outlet for him,thats a great quick target he was denied last year

First year with Hurts as a starter he had 830 yards. Second year 700. Third year less than 600.