Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

That’s why we need to make a top O mind the HC….you almost are getting there

 

7 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So the #2 ranked OC is a failure here before 1 snap has been taken. This is amazing stuff. The crystal ball. Why not see what this teams looks like before your knee jerk reactions?

That’s laughable BS. I just gone posting the resume of the top two OC’s…Detroit and Houston. Moore isn’t near their tier.

10 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

He made Dak look good,taught him how to utilize his strengths. You put too much BS on "MVP". Win the division,more important than MVP TMZ garbage

Didn’t Dallas win the division last year after Moore left?

19 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We keep saying it and you keep denying and deflecting. It will take Hurts to become an NFL QB. Moore made Dak look good,he will do the same for Hurts. it's his JOB

So what’s the name of the guy that develops him? Could it be coach?

Hurts did throw for almost 4K yards last season…nothing to sneeze at.

I actually believe Johnson can still be a quality OC. If he was under an…. AR or Shannahan….they would have developed him IMO.

The O coaching minds are so clearly the preference of choice for NFL franchises. To have a top one running the O he’ll need the top coaching spot. D minds you can attain by giving them certain levels of autonomy with their side of the ball.

Siri brought with him Steichen. That was good. Kind of like how DeMeco could bring Slowik. We would have been better off ditching Siri for Steichen. Now we need to grab Slowik from Houston.

26 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Didn’t Dallas win the division last year after Moore left?

Won the division and produced runner up MVP

So everybody here obviously knows how high I’ve been on Jalen Carter a year before he even entered the draft. But the entire book on Carter is still holding true. He’s unbelievably gifted beast! Our second best pass rusher this year I’d say behind Sweat. Jumping to an understanding amongst this whole group of his upside talents….a ceiling maybe we haven’t ever seen can witnessed in a player before at DT. Or if we are now in a more full blown 3-4 is he a 3-4 DE? They key to Fangio, and most good NFL Ds is how they’ve hybrid and blended traditional 3-4 and 4-3 approaches. This has been facilitated by Nickle and Dime personnel playing the majority of the downs anyway. Fangio and experienced D coaches get very matchup week to week specific is how I honestly view things from a scheme standpoint. Anyway …getting off topic from my point about Carter. His negative potential side that brought red flags alert seemingly to many. Actually pretty sure all have been aware of his potential pitfalls. He didn’t really work or try hard before coming to the NFL. Not showing a love or real commitment to this profession. Remember we were and have been considered the most favorable spot for him to stay on track. These Georgia Bulldogs along with Fletch as his mentor. Did he max out his levels of physical fitness and work study week to week for us? Us fans aren’t privy to really being knowledgable about his week to week game study preparations. As far as we know he was just living on a Cliff Notes version supplied to him by Fletch. He needs to be hungry and devoted to this area during the season. The case can still apply to his potential negative rap sheet as far as he clearly hit the wall last season. He started off showcasing his ability…which I’m assuming by this point everybody here is now totally agreeing with me on. But nowhere near had his physical endurance and NFL season long production. Now to be fair there is a whole familiar term of The Rookie Wall. He slammed into it!  He has to do all the pro things to have his body prepared for what is such a long grind. A guy that can come out blockbuster early in the season doesn’t do but so much for me….attempting to communicate that late season/playoffs is heavily weighted on my scales. Point here is unfortunately Carter still checks this negative box clearly. This was for us in his most ideal situation….after a huge wake up call threatening his career this past offseason. I’m worried this could be the highest he actually buys in and works at his game. He got shuck by the whole scandal of his car racing…fell in the draft….which could have actually  been much worse in his situation. Which leads to his scouting book negative of off field decision making and problems. He got off some situation revolving around stealing while here. The incident was erased. Was it just because of whom he is? Or because he didn’t do it? Unfortunately I’d have to say either way….he still hasn’t erased that scouting belief of him and his off field decisions.

  Short version: We just had Carter in what could prove to be his most favorable situation to get his attention and be coachable. Even with that setup the red flags still are a concern.  Kid has the most unbelievable talent. Will he choose to have a great HOF career? Or will he ride by collecting paychecks delivering a Jadeveon Clowny-esque career…or worse?

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

That’s why we need to make a top O mind the HC….you almost are getting there

#2 ranked OC is not enough for you? Maybe you will get it soon

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Didn’t Dallas win the division last year after Moore left?

Because we failed/collapsed/quit LOL

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So what’s the name of the guy that develops him? Could it be coach?

Could it be talent,play calling or 100 other factors? So you admit Moore got Dak playing,yet deny he can do that with Hurts who BADLY needs it. Thanks for proving my point and yourself wrong

30 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So everybody here obviously knows how high I’ve been on Jalen Carter a year before he even entered the draft. But the entire book on Carter is still holding true. He’s unbelievably gifted beast! Our second best pass rusher this year I’d say behind Sweat. Jumping to an understanding amongst this whole group of his upside talents….a ceiling maybe we haven’t ever seen can witnessed in a player before at DT. Or if we are now in a more full blown 3-4 is he a 3-4 DE? They key to Fangio, and most good NFL Ds is how they’ve hybrid and blended traditional 3-4 and 4-3 approaches. This has been facilitated by Nickle and Dime personnel playing the majority of the downs anyway. Fangio and experienced D coaches get very matchup week to week specific is how I honestly view things from a scheme standpoint. Anyway …getting off topic from my point about Carter. His negative potential side that brought red flags alert seemingly to many. Actually pretty sure all have been aware of his potential pitfalls. He didn’t really work or try hard before coming to the NFL. Not showing a love or real commitment to this profession. Remember we were and have been considered the most favorable spot for him to stay on track. These Georgia Bulldogs along with Fletch as his mentor. Did he max out his levels of physical fitness and work study week to week for us? Us fans aren’t privy to really being knowledgable about his week to week game study preparations. As far as we know he was just living on a Cliff Notes version supplied to him by Fletch. He needs to be hungry and devoted to this area during the season. The case can still apply to his potential negative rap sheet as far as he clearly hit the wall last season. He started off showcasing his ability…which I’m assuming by this point everybody here is now totally agreeing with me on. But nowhere near had his physical endurance and NFL season long production. Now to be fair there is a whole familiar term of The Rookie Wall. He slammed into it!  He has to do all the pro things to have his body prepared for what is such a long grind. A guy that can come out blockbuster early in the season doesn’t do but so much for me….attempting to communicate that late season/playoffs is heavily weighted on my scales. Point here is unfortunately Carter still checks this negative box clearly. This was for us in his most ideal situation….after a huge wake up call threatening his career this past offseason. I’m worried this could be the highest he actually buys in and works at his game. He got shuck by the whole scandal of his car racing…fell in the draft….which could have actually  been much worse in his situation. Which leads to his scouting book negative of off field decision making and problems. He got off some situation revolving around stealing while here. The incident was erased. Was it just because of whom he is? Or because he didn’t do it? Unfortunately I’d have to say either way….he still hasn’t erased that scouting belief of him and his off field decisions.

  Short version: We just had Carter in what could prove to be his most favorable situation to get his attention and be coachable. Even with that setup the red flags still are a concern.  Kid has the most unbelievable talent. Will he choose to have a great HOF career? Or will he ride by collecting paychecks delivering a Jadeveon Clowny-esque career…or worse?

EVERYONE was high on Carter??? OH I forgot,you had to "call it". Why do you demand he grows after "slamming the wall" but you won't do that with Hurts? Both guys need to put the work in and improve. Hurts "head game" gets no better no matter how much he can leg press

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-ranking-top-10-offensive-coordinators-2023 Guess hiring the #2 OC according to PFF is a fail for you? Apparently the "laughable BS" is laughing all over you

14 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

EVERYONE was high on Carter??? OH I forgot,you had to "call it". Why do you demand he grows after "slamming the wall" but you won't do that with Hurts? Both guys need to put the work in and improve. Hurts "head game" gets no better no matter how much he can leg press

You talked about no longer being a fan if we drafted Carter. Hurts you know all day every time he’s going to put the work in…not even a question with him. 

Jalen has been having extra practice time with Saquan multiple time. Just had the tall rookie for some extra practice. You know QB1 is going to put in the work.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You talked about no longer being a fan if we drafted Carter. Hurts you know all day every time he’s going to put the work in…not even a question with him. 

Depends what the work is. He needs work on field vision and decision making. Extra leg presses won't fix that

48 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Jalen has been having extra practice time with Saquan multiple time. Just had the tall rookie for some extra practice. You know QB1 is going to put in the work.

Working with the RB is great,does zero for field vision. Handing the ball off is not where the works needs to be done. I'm glad they are getting their timing down. That should be in place by now

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You talked about no longer being a fan if we drafted Carter. Hurts you know all day every time he’s going to put the work in…not even a question with him. 

RE-Carter.yes I was mad about his questionable character

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Working with the RB is great,does zero for field vision. Handing the ball off is not where the works needs to be done. I'm glad they are getting their timing down. That should be in place by now

It takes all of it

17 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Because we failed/collapsed/quit LOL

Because they had a much better team last season 

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Jalen has been having extra practice time with Saquan multiple time. Just had the tall rookie for some extra practice. You know QB1 is going to put in the work.

But it's just to set up for the coaching change next year....this work isn't for trying to win this year🤦

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

But it's just to set up for the coaching change next year....this work isn't for trying to win this year🤦

Hopefully help for years to come. I like how Hurts is taking it on himself to help develop Johnny Wilson. What a huge piece to the puzzle he could be.

4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It takes all of it

That's what we keep asking for and you call us haters. We want Hurts to have all of it

4 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Because they had a much better team last season 

As I recall at 10-1 we were in the lead? And controlled our own destiny???