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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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14 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Exactly…point blame where it belongs. Actually pay attention and be more appropriate where you place the blame.

What's BS is "Hurts is the only QB we can win with". Total BS. And why is that? One of,if not THE best supporting cast in the league on offense. Any QB with any above average skills can run this team just fine 

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2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

"Immense talent, but he makes a lot of mistakes. He's underdeveloped at winning at the line of scrimmage, tends to lock on to targets, more of a thrower than precision passer, forces throws into traffic."

Jalen Hurts,without the tush push eh? Difference,Hurts is semi proficient at short pass accuracy,when he goes deep he gets picked because they are underthrown "dying ducks" because he doesn't have the arm. Hurts "wins at the LOS" because of the best O line in the league,so this "unnamed source" is clueless and probably is the Gnats OC. Allen has an issue with throwing short too HARD and needs to dial that back. All QB's have things they need to work on

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1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Then I gave you the reality check on an ‘all in team’ wouldn’t trade Aiyuck unless really forced to. They can use the fifth year option…you call a dumb move. They can use the tag…you call a dumb option. They can extend their ‘all in’ for two more seasons as far as Aiyuck is concerned.

So you are really into franchise tags? That cost you more money?

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1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Thats all before going into how he was listed as one of the pack of WR I believed we could trade back for instead of taking Reagor at 21.

You were adamant about getting Reagor because of his "blazing speed". Pages and pages of you vs me with my JJ pick. only 2 people wanted Reagor in that draft,you and Howie. Everyone else was dead on

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1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Rosie had already decided to boot Reddick before this season. Or did you miss how I already explained this fact to The Sheeple?

Reddick and Sweat were both on the trade block. One or the other was going away regardless.

29 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So you are really into franchise tags? That cost you more money?

Franchise tags are bad business.   It's a big salary guaranteed... all counting vs the cap.   

5th year options aren't great either.  Same principle.

It you have an elite player....sign them early and get them cheap.  Pay the player so he's happy, and keep the team in control. 

50 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Jalen Hurts,without the tush push eh? Difference,Hurts is semi proficient at short pass accuracy,when he goes deep he gets picked because they are underthrown "dying ducks" because he doesn't have the arm. Hurts "wins at the LOS" because of the best O line in the league,so this "unnamed source" is clueless and probably is the Gnats OC. Allen has an issue with throwing short too HARD and needs to dial that back. All QB's have things they need to work on

The best big playmaker in the league actually

38 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

You were adamant about getting Reagor because of his "blazing speed". Pages and pages of you vs me with my JJ pick. only 2 people wanted Reagor in that draft,you and Howie. Everyone else was dead on

I wanted Ceedee lamb actually…but felt we should trade back otherwise because there was a group of very talented WR to be had later in the first. Higgins, Aiyuck, Reagor…..

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The best big playmaker in the league actually

Whole O scheme became so lazy completely relying on Hurts to make the big play

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The best big playmaker in the league actually

What would you use to classify a " big play "?     And in 2023, where would Hurts rank in these " big plays " ?

Overall...where would Hurts rank in 2021, 2022 and 2023 in this?   

See how 2022  NFL " sheople" can view as the outlier...not the norm.   And same for Reddick. 

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Whole O scheme became so lazy completely relying on Hurts to make the big play

Or not turn the ball over?

46 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So you are really into franchise tags? That cost you more money?

So let's take a quick minute ...WITH AN OPEN MIND AND ZERO AGENDA... just look at numbers as a comparison.... and you can tell me what works better for " extending your All-in window"

1.  Eagles / Smith contract. 

A player drafted in 2021...

Method = extension prior to year 4

Cap hits from year 4 through 7 are a total of $40 million 

Or

SF / Aiyuk contract...

Player drafted 2020 ... 

Method = the 5th year/ possible tag 

Cap hits year 4 and 5 = $18 mil

Franchise tag # for 2024 = $19 mil.  ( number going WAY WAY up next year)

So let's compare.... my next post...

Eagles/ Smith.... you use $40 mil of cap space through years 4 -7....a 4 year window

SF Aiyuk method.... 5th year plus tag...going to use $40 mil ...probably more, for only 3 years.

On top of that... Smith was drafted a year later... so his numbers started higher from the beginning.  

SF method costs more for a player that should have costed less because he entered the league a year sooner.

 

To keep it simple.... 2 great ways to CLOSE your " All in window" faster... 

1. 5th year option 

2.  Franchise tag

To keep the window open longer.. get  extension done prior to year 4. 

The numbers have zero agenda... they tell the story in an unbiased fashion.

That's salary cap management. 

Player selection.. and who the teams draft or choose to sign or keep... that's different than how they write contracts and when they choose to extend. 

With 6:55 left in the game and the Philadelphia Eagles trailing 17-14 to the Kansas City Chiefs on Monday at Arrowhead, Philly quarterback Jalen Hurts launched a deep ball down the right sideline that was caught by DeVonta Smith at the 1-yard line. 

Hurts finished off the job with a one-yard rushing touchdown on the signature Brotherly Shove play that ended up being the go-ahead score in a 21-17 comeback win over the Chiefs. 

 

Eagles coach Nick Sirianni said after the game that Hurts’ pass to Smith was the result of a timely audible at the line of scrimmage, which ended up changing the game and giving the Eagles another gutsy win. 

"DeVonta and AJ had a huge, huge play that Jalen actually checked to," Sirianni said. "It was a heck of a check, Jalen just sees some great things out there. He did a phenomenal job. He checked to that, and it ended up being the right call at the right moment

What should be obvious now.   Milton Williams is here for one more year.  The Eagles would have extended him if they truly want him.    

Milton probably believes he can get more money outside as a free agent next year.  He is betting on himself.   He has that option....and he is taking it.

Quick question....how many NFL QBs made an audible and the team scored a TD last season?

Are we to believe this is a special thing now?

Is the bar set that low for...

" the greatest in franchise history"  

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41 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I wanted Ceedee lamb actually…but felt we should trade back otherwise because there was a group of very talented WR to be had later in the first. Higgins, Aiyuck, Reagor…..

JJ better than them all,your boy  Reagor? LOL Just an awful pick that you and Howie made

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27 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

 

With 6:55 left in the game and the Philadelphia Eagles trailing 17-14 to the Kansas City Chiefs on Monday at Arrowhead, Philly quarterback Jalen Hurts launched a deep ball down the right sideline that was caught by DeVonta Smith at the 1-yard line. 

Hurts finished off the job with a one-yard rushing touchdown on the signature Brotherly Shove play that ended up being the go-ahead score in a 21-17 comeback win over the Chiefs. 

 

Eagles coach Nick Sirianni said after the game that Hurts’ pass to Smith was the result of a timely audible at the line of scrimmage, which ended up changing the game and giving the Eagles another gutsy win. 

"DeVonta and AJ had a huge, huge play that Jalen actually checked to," Sirianni said. "It was a heck of a check, Jalen just sees some great things out there. He did a phenomenal job. He checked to that, and it ended up being the right call at the right moment

Yes he does some things right at times and??????

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Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Hurts finished off the job with a one-yard rushing touchdown on the signature Brotherly Shove

Ball hog tush push-why Hurts got a team record. Credit-O line(but they don't get the TD stat)

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20 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Quick question....how many NFL QBs made an audible and the team scored a TD last season?

Are we to believe this is a special thing now?

Only Hurts. The 30 other QB's don't do it. I made it 30 because we know Purdy is the best QB in the league bar none

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32 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

 

With 6:55 left in the game and the Philadelphia Eagles trailing 17-14 to the Kansas City Chiefs on Monday at Arrowhead, Philly quarterback Jalen Hurts launched a deep ball down the right sideline that was caught by DeVonta Smith at the 1-yard line. 

Hurts finished off the job with a one-yard rushing touchdown on the signature Brotherly Shove play that ended up being the go-ahead score in a 21-17 comeback win over the Chiefs. 

 

Eagles coach Nick Sirianni said after the game that Hurts’ pass to Smith was the result of a timely audible at the line of scrimmage, which ended up changing the game and giving the Eagles another gutsy win. 

"DeVonta and AJ had a huge, huge play that Jalen actually checked to," Sirianni said. "It was a heck of a check, Jalen just sees some great things out there. He did a phenomenal job. He checked to that, and it ended up being the right call at the right moment

Where is the quote as to what was said when the ball was picked off???? Or where is the quote after the 14 yard retreat into the EZ taking a safety???? You need to post lowlights as well as highlights

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24 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Quick question....how many NFL QBs made an audible and the team scored a TD last season?

Are we to believe this is a special thing now?

All Hurts, Smith had zero to do with getting open and giving the QB a window to throw into. Any old WR would do. The O line giving him the time to throw is also immaterial. Hurts is the entire offense,you should know this by now

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