July 17, 20242 yr 11 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: The commentators are on the field making audibles?(or not making them?) Every single play…not just according to me…according to the commentators. But your blame and expectation is Huets should have audibles every play and just taken over as our Offensuve Coordinator and playcaller…Head Coach also I assume. Just not the guy that scores the TDs. That you label him ball hog for.
July 17, 20242 yr Just now, joemas6 said: Ohhh...I think some of those sacks were on him for sure. You do realize that stepping out of bounds for a 2 yard loss instead of throwing it away counts as a sack? And a minus 1 for fantasy leagues...lol. Which is a mistake by Hurts…after the blockers didn’t do their jobs though, correct? Somebody had to be chasing him out of bounds after all.
July 17, 20242 yr Or what I harped on a ton is how the playcalling when the whole stadium knew the blitz was coming called for long developing routes. The O scheme was pretty much Hurts will make a big play reliant.
July 17, 20242 yr So 36 sacks, 59 Hurries... 95 total in 17 games.... so about 5.6 times per game? Didn't he have like 650 or so Pasa attempts? But idk.. seems like our OL got top PFF grades which they don't take Hurts escaping into account...just the individual guys on each snap. Curious how that looks compared to other QBs and the protection from their OLs.
July 17, 20242 yr 2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: Which is a mistake by Hurts…after the blockers didn’t do their jobs though, correct? Somebody had to be chasing him out of bounds after all. There it is....a specific example of a mistake by Hurts.
July 17, 20242 yr Of course the whole offseason apparently was focused on how Hurts just needed to not risk himself and get down…borderline coaching him to play scared.
July 17, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said: Or what I harped on a ton is how the playcalling when the whole stadium knew the blitz was coming called for long developing routes. The O scheme was pretty much Hurts will make a big play reliant. Yeah....I was harping on the empty backfield where the 6 defenders were coming....right there for the QB to see. The routes are secondary to the QB calling for the extra blocker.
July 17, 20242 yr 2 minutes ago, joemas6 said: So 36 sacks, 59 Hurries... 95 total in 17 games.... so about 5.6 times per game? Didn't he have like 650 or so Pasa attempts? But idk.. seems like our OL got top PFF grades which they don't take Hurts escaping into account...just the individual guys on each snap. Curious how that looks compared to other QBs and the protection from their OLs. I’ll fill you in on the answer…other QBs weren’t hurried as much
July 17, 20242 yr Just now, joemas6 said: Yeah....I was harping on the empty backfield where the 6 defenders were coming....right there for the QB to see. The routes are secondary to the QB calling for the extra blocker. You break off on a Hot Route. Or to begin with you make a playcall countering the very expected blitz.
July 17, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said: Of course the whole offseason apparently was focused on how Hurts just needed to not risk himself and get down…borderline coaching him to play scared. I agree...he needs to go all out these next 3 years.. . This is his window. He isn't going to last long term. He needs to run aggressive in order to be effective. The running is his best tool.
July 17, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said: I’ll fill you in on the answer…other QBs weren’t hurried as much Really? You have the chart...I'd love to see it.
July 17, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said: You break off on a Hot Route. Or to begin with you make a playcall countering the very expected blitz. Yes...but you need to account for the extra rusher first.
July 17, 20242 yr 2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: I’ll fill you in on the answer…other QBs weren’t hurried as much Geno Smith faced 60 hurries
July 17, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, joemas6 said: Yes...but you need to account for the extra rusher first. So when everybody in the stadium is expecting the blitz…who’s fault is this?
July 17, 20242 yr Just now, cunninghamtheman said: So when everybody in the stadium is expecting the blitz…who’s fault is this? Who gets hit on a blitz? You get hit...wouldn't you make the audible for protection? The QBs constantly do it
July 17, 20242 yr Just now, joemas6 said: Who gets hit on a blitz? You get hit...wouldn't you make the audible for protection? The QBs constantly do it Wouldn’t you choose different playcalling?
July 17, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, joemas6 said: Who gets hit on a blitz? You get hit...wouldn't you make the audible for protection? The QBs constantly do it OCs constantly do it. Playcallers constantly do it. Why should the QB have to constantly do it? Especially after the first two statements clearly demonstrate the coaches don’t have the answers that they should be telling the QB about.
July 17, 20242 yr Jalen Hurts it feels like you guys forget is only 25 years old. Had a different OC every year he’s been in college and the pros. He still needs to be taught some of these things. Needs a few more answers to the test still. It’s completely understandable…to me at least. Let’s watch and see if Kellen Moore doesn’t have a few answers to the blitz for Hurts this season. He isn’t some offensive rocket scientist….but I bet even he has more than just the answers of go long…or bubble screen to counter a blitz. Quick timing passes is what I was calling for most of last season. Receivers breaking off on Hot Routes I begged for second. Think we’ll see some of Saquan punishing some people this season trying to blitz. He either stays in to block…or goes out to burn them.
July 17, 20242 yr Saquan was pretty much the only personnel move the franchise made to combat things. Unless you count Ainas on his YAC creation plays. Which would count…if they can get the rook up and going.
July 17, 20242 yr 48 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: Wouldn’t you choose different playcalling? That's what an audible is..isn't it?
July 17, 20242 yr 11 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: Saquan was pretty much the only personnel move the franchise made to combat things. Unless you count Ainas on his YAC creation plays. Which would count…if they can get the rook up and going. I think more specific abilities that fit better on offense 1. RB that can stay on the field for all the types of plays...plus a 3rd RB that should get some carries. 2. Slot guys that can have ability to catch a short pass and run. Those elements....added to what was already here.... plus an OC that isn't here because he was a childhood friend of the QB... Plus I believe Lane Johnson and all the other reports...the QB had his best offseason as a pro. And I don’t think any of that has to do with his physical ability. I expect elite from this offense.
July 17, 20242 yr 11 minutes ago, joemas6 said: That's what an audible is..isn't it? You are telling me you expect Hurts to change ever play basically. It was a common theme …especially to end our season. So why are you relieving all blame from the coaches? I just quoted Siri on how Hurts had bailed us out several times before n the first half of the season…particularly to win the fake versus the Chiefs. I just think there has to be a limit on expectations placed on the QB. Even your answer expecting Hurts to audible is an admittance of a failure of the coaches. Not sure how you can’t admit and college you are even saying this in yourself…in blaming Hurts for not changing the playcall even more. But in such clear demonstration of the coaches showing they have no answers ….there is no case you can make the coaches were instructing Hurts to adjust and he just wasn’t accepting coaching.
July 17, 20242 yr 12 minutes ago, joemas6 said: I think more specific abilities that fit better on offense 1. RB that can stay on the field for all the types of plays...plus a 3rd RB that should get some carries. 2. Slot guys that can have ability to catch a short pass and run. Those elements....added to what was already here.... plus an OC that isn't here because he was a childhood friend of the QB... Plus I believe Lane Johnson and all the other reports...the QB had his best offseason as a pro. And I don’t think any of that has to do with his physical ability. I expect elite from this offense. You expect a higher level of performance from the O than the investment the FO placed in the coaching to accomplish such. Coaches don’t even count against the salary cap. So that can’t even be an excuse.
July 17, 20242 yr 14 minutes ago, joemas6 said: I think more specific abilities that fit better on offense 1. RB that can stay on the field for all the types of plays...plus a 3rd RB that should get some carries. 2. Slot guys that can have ability to catch a short pass and run. Those elements....added to what was already here.... plus an OC that isn't here because he was a childhood friend of the QB... Plus I believe Lane Johnson and all the other reports...the QB had his best offseason as a pro. And I don’t think any of that has to do with his physical ability. I expect elite from this offense. Number two is still a huge question mark. I’ve still be of the thinking a third WR needs to be in the works. Most likely via trade. But any way the opportunity arises. Be so very key for this O to be "elite.” That fourth option that just has to beat the Ds fourth best cover man. That D player is going to be really bad some weeks. To be able to take advantage there should go such a long ways.
July 17, 20242 yr Just now, cunninghamtheman said: Number two is still a huge question mark. I’ve still be of the thinking a third WR needs to be in the works. Most likely via trade. But any way the opportunity arises. Be so very key for this O to be "elite.” That fourth option that just has to beat the Ds fourth best cover man. That D player is going to be really bad some weeks. To be able to take advantage there should go such a long ways. I add a real QB coach. Coach Doug is more key than you guys are realizing. It wasn’t just Johnson being bad as OC…it was that we lost our quality QB coach. Under a legit quality O minded head coach things could have been ironed out most likely. But not under Siri.
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