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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Ringo in Off coverage covers the Out. Shows it can be done…if the CB can break on the ball quick enough. Which should be the idea of playing Off. should be able to just gun it forward to make a play. Seven yards off…but there to disrupt the catch.

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Pretty cool how BGNation just posted a Ringo breakdown after I was mentioning him.

Shows you pretty text book how a CB can be 7 yards in Off coverage and break up a five yard Out. 

The consensus seems to be that Ringo can’t play in the Slot as an option. I have to agree with this assessment. Which means he can’t even travel in Man.

I’m thinking Ringo and Slay outside with Q in the Slot and Ceedy Duce and Milk Check at S….will be how we start the season.

So many people seem to favor Green Bay to win the NFC North. That’s just a really tough division. Not sure how you can overlook the Lions. Lions got even better. Even listened to two of the guys on CBS talking about how they believe so much in the Packers…they’ll make the SB.

Our season going to start with a trial by fire. Packers are being widely praised after a strong showing last season as the youngest team. Falcons seem to be the majority South division winner. Facing them week two the book won’t be out on much of what they’re up to. So be up to our coaches to break them down super quick. Saints and then Bucs both always give us fits. Really challenging season start for us. Better come out of camp firing!

Harbaugh’s Chargers practices are twice as long as our teams.

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

How do you know Rodgers will be as your choice instead? Slay is under contract to return at least.

I thought your boy Q needed time?     For me Q and Ringo...but I was under the assumption rookies needed time ?  

Personally I'd like to see all 3 on the field.  I'm over Slay and Maddox. 

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Ringo in Off coverage covers the Out. Shows it can be done…if the CB can break on the ball quick enough. Which should be the idea of playing Off. should be able to just gun it forward to make a play. Seven yards off…but there to disrupt the catch.

7 yards off...not 12?    

This is what Fangio is going to bring...no gimme pitch and catch on 3rd and long. 

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’m thinking Ringo and Slay outside with Q in the Slot and Ceedy Duce and Milk Check at S….will be how we start the season.

What's that in English?

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Shows you pretty text book how a CB can be 7 yards in Off coverage and break up a five yard Out. 

Yeah....not 12

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10 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

7 yards off...not 12?    

This is what Fangio is going to bring...no gimme pitch and catch on 3rd and long. 

What you screenshotted was the same 7 

9 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Yeah....not 12

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That’s six

10 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Yeah....not 12

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WR is at the 49. CB at the 43. Exaggerate much?

But the link I provided has the CB having that WR running an Out as his responsibility. Versus your endless attempts to weaponize a Cover 3 look with the Slot CB having the Out

Just watch the link I provided of Ringo. Same spacing…but Ringo breaks and disrupts the reception.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

That’s six

On this play...as was the post from the article.... the CB here starts off with a cushion well behind the first down marker and continues to back up ...inside the 40 yard line... which is 12 yards off the line.

I agree you can give a 7 yard cushion and play the 5 yard out... if you don't back up another 5 yards.  

Your constant banter over the winter was the slot CB is supposed to cover the out pattern here. 

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

WR is at the 49. CB at the 43. Exaggerate much?

The line of scrimmage is the blue line.

Things have clearly changed. With Saquan out Siri decided on wearing his boy Kennth Gainwell fanboy t shirt. But most all reports were about how great Shipley looked today with first team reps. We’ll see just how much power Siri still has. I don’t think we’ll be seeing the terrible mistakes of the past if Gainwell getting force fed on this team anymore. He’s third string instead of first string with Moore in charge.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But the link I provided has the CB having that WR running an Out as his responsibility. Versus your endless attempts to weaponize a Cover 3 look with the Slot CB having the Out

The link you provided had the outside CB covering the out?   Pure genius,  I wish I would have thought of that 🤦🤦

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

On this play...as was the post from the article.... the CB here starts off with a cushion well behind the first down marker and continues to back up ...inside the 40 yard line... which is 12 yards off the line.

I agree you can give a 7 yard cushion and play the 5 yard out... if you don't back up another 5 yards.  

Your constant banter over the winter was the slot CB is supposed to cover the out pattern here. 

Six yards off for the Over defender. With the Slot having Out responsibilities. But I have a link to another play where the outside Cb, Ringo, plays 7 yards off and disrupts the Out…when it’s his responsibility.

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

The link you provided had the outside CB covering the out?   Pure genius,  I wish I would have thought of that 🤦🤦

Two different D playcalls. The second shows how the CB playing Off can disrupt that catch. You know…if he’s a good player…and it’s his responsibility.

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

The line of scrimmage is the blue line.

Why would the line of scrimmage instead of the opponent be a mark of significance? Hey the CB played 40 yards off the line of scrimmage once a WR ran a Go route…duh!

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Things have clearly changed. With Saquan out Siri decided on wearing his boy Kennth Gainwell fanboy t shirt. But most all reports were about how great Shipley looked today with first team reps. We’ll see just how much power Siri still has. I don’t think we’ll be seeing the terrible mistakes of the past if Gainwell getting force fed on this team anymore. He’s third string instead of first string with Moore in charge.

Those 4 carries a game he was forced at the 4.6 yards a carry really set the offense back.

2 carries for 9 yards setting up 3rd and 1... doing that twice a game really killed the offense.

Nevermind 22 carries in 16 games by RB 3 last year.

Shipley doing anything ...plus Barkley being able to stay on the field... would be ideal mixed in with the 4 carries or 18 yards from Gainwell. 

Ideally Shipley plays less snaps, buy actually gets more touches than Gainwell.   Really the #3 RB should be getting touches at a higher percentage since he should be fresher 

Love to get 10 touches from the other RBs in addition to  20 from Barkley. 

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