If the Ducks hadn’t just traded away Mason McTavish 9 months after signing him to a six-year contract extension I’d say they’d let Carlsson go and focus on getting their other guys signed, but I think they have no choice now but to match on Carlsson and let Mintyukov go — depending on the value of his offer sheet.

The owner will be the wildcard in this one, as Samueli will have to write the check for Verbeek to cash it. If he were a new owner I’d guess he might balk, but he’s been around for 20+ years.

I lean about 2:1 ANH will match.

36 minutes ago, devpool said:

I wouldn't mind them moving TK if they could, but honestly i'm not super pressed about losing picks because this team Fing sucks at drafting and developing players. Foerster is the first person they've drafted in what feels like forever that has true high end potential (i don't count michkov, he landed in their laps there was no work to be done).

That aside we have 2 firsts in 2027 so basically only losing 3 firsts in my mind, and plenty of time to recoup 2028 and beyond.

I’d trade TK but i don’t see them doing it cause i don’t think they believe they’ll get what they perceive his value to be.

I think Martone also has true high end potential. It would be awesome to see a Martone, Carlsson and foerster line

37 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

If the Ducks hadn’t just traded away Mason McTavish 9 months after signing him to a six-year contract extension I’d say they’d let Carlsson go and focus on getting their other guys signed, but I think they have no choice now but to match on Carlsson and let Mintyukov go — depending on the value of his offer sheet.

The owner will be the wildcard in this one, as Samueli will have to write the check for Verbeek to cash it. If he were a new owner I’d guess he might balk, but he’s been around for 20+ years.

I lean about 2:1 ANH will match.

I don't think briere had any belief we would actually get Carlson when he submitted that sheet, otherwise his "we're gonna take a atep back" comment looks weird unless we think it was a smokescreen.

5 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’d trade TK but i don’t see them doing it cause i don’t think they believe they’ll get what they perceive his value to be.

I think Martone also has true high end potential. It would be awesome to see a Martone, Carlsson and foerster line

I’d start off with Tippet with Carlsson and Foerster. Calrsson is the exact type of center who could allow Tippet to score 40+ goals. If it doesn’t work out, you trade Tippett at the deadline or next off season. Martone can play on line 2 during that experiment. Busty should be on the 3rd line until he proves it.

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

At first, my initial reaction was wow, that's a lot of money but thinking ahead with the cap continuously going up and assuming this guy doesn't turn into a complete bust (very unlikely), this contract won't be so bad in the overall scheme of things. The first line would be deadly. There is a high chance he is at least an 80-90 ppg guy and a prototypical center with his size and speed. Whoever plays with him whether its Porter, Foerster, Tippet, they are going to feast.

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Whether it works or not, he would be hard to trade with for other GM's going forward possibly. Unless this is the new nhl, and he is ahead of the time. I say f it, might as well go for it now, don't stop half way lol (if other offer sheet doesn't work)

12 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Reverse Cutter!

I wonder why that would be….

23 hours ago, Khani1 said:

Whether it works or not, he would be hard to trade with for other GM's going forward possibly. Unless this is the new nhl, and he is ahead of the time. I say f it, might as well go for it now, don't stop half way lol (if other offer sheet doesn't work)

They said that about Homer after the Weber offer sheet and he had no problems. Teams cannot get mad, anyone can do it. The ducks didnt force the Gauthier trade, the player did. So while it is a hilarious side effect that it makes ot harder for Gauthier to sign, it doesnt make sense for that to be the motivation.

I truly just think briere wanted to make it as hard to match as possible, and he structured it how he did because he knows their owner is a cheap piece of crap and would be less willing to match.

I think they match at the end of the day, but what an exciting week

23 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I wonder if Carlson's agent contacts the team and asks them not to match, if he truly does not want to be there. I mean $18m and you live in Anaheim or $18m and live in Philly where people care about hockey.

7 minutes ago, devpool said:

I wonder if Carlson's agent contacts the team and asks them not to match, if he truly does not want to be there. I mean $18m and you live in Anaheim or $18m and live in Philly where people care about hockey.

I think he and other players are sick of verbeek’s crap while negotiating. Was a good article on how verbeek’s negotiation ratings finally caught up to him.

The other thing that needs to be talked about, is the Flyers putting that no movement clause in year five. So if he doesn’t wanna be there anymore by that time, Anaheim would have to trade him prior or ask him where he wants to be dealt too. It’s a crap spot to be in for Anaheim cause you don’t just sign that type of offer sheet unless you don’t want to be there or just over the FO

I’d throw in Tippett or Konecny, Risto and Luchanko to sweeten the pot.

49 minutes ago, Blazehound said:

I’d throw in Tippett or Konecny, Risto and Luchanko to sweeten the pot.

What you're proposing is insane. You want to give them 4 firsts and 3 players? This isn't McDavid, and there's zero reason to "sweeten the pot".

6 minutes ago, devpool said:

What you're proposing is insane. You want to give them 4 firsts and 3 players? This isn't McDavid, and there's zero reason to "sweeten the pot".

I actually think what could happen is what they flyers did with gratton. Tampa didn’t match but they worked a deal out where Flyers got their picks back and sent out renberg and dykuis. I have a hard time believing they keep every forward they have and i could see ducks wanting talent back instead of all picks

1 hour ago, Blazehound said:

I’d throw in Tippett or Konecny, Risto and Luchanko to sweeten the pot.

Lets throw in the liberty bell, independence hall and the eagles message board

8 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Lets throw in the liberty bell, independence hall and the eagles message board

But i like the message board 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

But i like the message board 

Ok maybe they will just take the political section

1 hour ago, devpool said:

What you're proposing is insane. You want to give them 4 firsts and 3 players? This isn't McDavid, and there's zero reason to "sweeten the pot".

Absolutely. While a useful player, Konecny has an albatross contract, Tippett is OK but we have a glut of wingers, Luchanko has no future here with Carlsson, and Risto will be a FA after this season.

The reason to sweeten the pot is to get your guy. All of the players mentioned above are expendable, as are the first round picks, which are meaningless, because the Flyers can’t draft.

2 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I actually think what could happen is what they flyers did with gratton. Tampa didn’t match but they worked a deal out where Flyers got their picks back and sent out renberg and dykuis. I have a hard time believing they keep every forward they have and i could see ducks wanting talent back instead of all picks

That's far more palatable than 4 picks and 3 players

17 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

48 minutes ago, Blazehound said:

Absolutely. While a useful player, Konecny has an albatross contract, Tippett is OK but we have a glut of wingers, Luchanko has no future here with Carlsson, and Risto will be a FA after this season.

The reason to sweeten the pot is to get your guy. All of the players mentioned above are expendable, as are the first round picks, which are meaningless, because the Flyers can’t draft.

Just send the whole team and all of our picks over, everyone and everything is expendable! Tippett is very good, you're severely underestimating him.

Send konecny, fine. Risto, like him or not, is one of our better defenders. They just drafted a billion defensemen because they have none in the pipeline, who are you replacing him with? Let him leave in FA and give them a year to figure out his replacement, don't cause a gaping hole in a trade that doesnt need to happen