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11 hours ago, VanHammersly said:

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So Trump cam blame Congress for quitting Iran hostilities, giving him an out ?

3 hours ago, Talkingbirds said:

So Trump cam blame Congress for quitting Iran hostilities, giving him an out ?

When he finally does take the L, either from this resolution or just tucking tail on his own, he'll blame Congress/Democrats/Obama/aliens no matter what. Doesn't matter where it comes from, the only guarantee with Trump is that he'll never take responsibility for his failures. But the L will still fall on him no matter who he blames. But us getting out is better than us going in full bore and getting more troops killed/killing more kids.

resolution? pfft. fake news. iran has been obliterated 4 times already.

14 hours ago, VanHammersly said:

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How would the alternative government handle having no electricity?

17 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

How would the alternative government handle having no electricity?

It's a total crock of shite that Israel ever believed that. Their objective is to blow Iran to the stone age and let chaos reign on them. They don't care who rules Iran as long as they don't have a leg to stand on. That's it, and Bibi pool sharked trump into falling for it.

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The IRGC (Revolutionary Guards) and the Iranian Army are two separate entities. The IRGC has been loyal to the revolution and to Khameini. If the Army turns, and if arms can be placed in the hands of the people, this could help foment a revolution from within. The people in Iran, and the rest of the world would be the beneficiaries if a revolution is successful.

20 hours ago, Procus said:

The IRGC (Revolutionary Guards) and the Iranian Army are two separate entities. The IRGC has been loyal to the revolution and to Khameini. If the Army turns, and if arms can be placed in the hands of the people, this could help foment a revolution from within. The people in Iran, and the rest of the world would be the beneficiaries if a revolution is successful.

It is hilarious that you believe this.

This fat F is just gonna slip out the back door and pretend nobody noticed, isn't he? On to Cuba, where he will complete his trifecta of failed regime change.

On 5/20/2026 at 10:57 AM, VanHammersly said:

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They all know what the right thing to do is but don't have the spine to stand up to the Orange overlord of their party until the next election doesn't personally matter anymore

On 5/20/2026 at 6:03 AM, Talkingbirds said:

So Trump cam blame Congress for quitting Iran hostilities, giving him an out ?

Johnson made sure that wasn't gonna happen anyway

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Trump and Bibi had a mad spat over the phone. Trump may be a dipshite, but he's also a con man and unlike MAGA he knows he's been conned. At this point it is increasingly unlikely Trump even bothers to throw a final barrage. His options are nuke or slink away with his tail between his legs. It will almost certainly be slink away, but nuke isn't off the table.

15 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

Trump and Bibi had a mad spat over the phone. Trump may be a dipshite, but he's also a con man and unlike MAGA he knows he's been conned. At this point it is increasingly unlikely Trump even bothers to throw a final barrage. His options are nuke or slink away with his tail between his legs. It will almost certainly be slink away, but nuke isn't off the table.

Yeah, slink is 99%

5 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Yeah, slink is 99%

I'm gonna give nuke about 5%. His ego and evilness are really that bad. Hell, I'll give nuke a 20% if we are talking about from here to 2028.

7 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

I'm gonna give nuke about 5%. His ego and evilness are really that bad. Hell, I'll give nuke a 20% if we are talking about from here to 2028.

Well, I do agree it is possible but things will need to get far worse than they are now for it to even have the remotest of chances. He can walk away and just blame others. Remember, it really is all about the grift.

3 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Well, I do agree it is possible but things will need to get far worse than they are now for it to even have the remotest of chances. He can walk away and just blame others. Remember, it really is all about the grift.

Yeah, I dunno man. Between the ballroom and audacity of the corruption, he isn't acting like a guy who's going to accept a frothing at the mouth democrat government with an agenda to take him down for his crimes coming to power.

2 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

Yeah, I dunno man. Between the ballroom and audacity of the corruption, he isn't acting like a guy who's going to accept a frothing at the mouth democrat government with an agenda to take him down for his crimes coming to power.

I agree with that but not sure how that equates "nuke". I do see him trying to remain in power 2028 or maybe trying to install one of his kids

11 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

I agree with that but not sure how that equates "nuke". I do see him trying to remain in power 2028 or maybe trying to install one of his kids

Nuclear war is the most straightforward pretext to assume full blown war powers and bypass elections all together. None of the back door options like installing a puppet will work if he has cratered in popularity and he can't steal an election if he's headed for a blowout.

I think it's time to stop pretending he isn't evil enough to do it. The "dove" schtick was the only thing making it incredulous before and that is long gone. If he nuked Iran tomorrow, Procus/Diehard and pretty much every MAGA you know, would cheer it on. That's where we're at.

10 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

Nuclear war is the most straightforward pretext to assume full blown war powers and bypass elections all together. None of the back door options like installing a puppet will work if he has cratered in popularity and he can't steal an election if he's headed for a blowout.

I think it's time to stop pretending he isn't evil enough to do it. The "dove" schtick was the only thing making it incredulous before and that is long gone. If he nuked Iran tomorrow, Procus/Diehard and pretty much every MAGA you know, would cheer it on. That's where we're at.

It will trigger a Civil War which I don't think he wants. Or maybe he is the Antichrist after all.

5 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

It will trigger a Civil War which I don't think he wants. Or maybe he is the Antichrist after all.

He'll try every other avenue first, but backed into a corner, he's proving over and over again with these international interventions that he's a riverboat gambler who will keep doubling down no matter the consequences.

Just now, dawkins4prez said:

He'll try every other avenue first, but backed into a corner, he's proving over and over again with these international interventions that he's a riverboat gambler who will keep doubling down no matter the consequences.

We shall see

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