If that’s the real MOU, I don’t want to ever hear again from Trumpers how smart Trump is, how strong he is, how great of a deal maker and negotiator he is. What a pathetic excuse for a president.

17 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

Oh my Goodness. Holy Tan Suit.

52 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

Oh my Goodness. Holy Tan Suit.

I hope his rage posting causes his BP to go up and he strokes out. It's gonna happen soon.

Yeah and they laughed at Trump who is a stupid SOB. He made the worst deal in the history of the USA. An epic failure and total embarrassment.

Donnie Dementia can decide if he wants to end the war or continue to the war. His threats are a violation of the agreement.

Yahoo News

Trump’s 14 point Iran deal leaked as president threatens...

Iran and the U.S. are inching towards an agreement to end the conflict, but Trump has said he will resume shooting if he doesn’t like the final deal

Trump’s 14 point Iran deal leaked as president threatens to drop bombs again if Tehran doesn’t ‘behave’

Details of a 14 point plan have now been leaked to multiple media outlets, though Trump insisted Wednesday that the so-called memorandum of understanding is not final and issued new threats if he wasn't happy with the agreement.

"If I don't like it, we'll go back to shooting at them, dropping bombs on their head," Trump, at the G7 summit in France. "If I don't like it, if they don't behave, we'll go right back to dropping bombs right smack in the middle of their head, OK?"

1. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States, together with their allies in the current war, declare upon the signing of this Memorandum of Understanding an immediate and permanent end to the war on all fronts, including Lebanon, and undertake that from now on they will not launch any hostile action against each other, and will refrain from the threat or use of force against each other. The final agreement will confirm the provisions of this Article and the remaining Articles.

42 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

That last one hahahaha...does he think we are ALL as stupid as @Diehardfan ?

15 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Yeah but he’s got that warrior ethos thing going for him. 😂

Looks like they officially released the agreement

The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran have jointly agreed in good faith on [ __ date] on the following:

1 — The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran and their allies in the current war are signing this MOU to declare the immediate and permanent termination of military operations on all fronts, including in Lebanon, and undertake from now on not to initiate any war or any military operation against each other, and to refrain from the threat or use of force against each other, and ensuring the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Lebanon. The final deal will confirm the permanent termination of the war on all fronts, including in Lebanon and other provisions of this paragraph.

2 — The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran undertake to respect each other’s sovereignty and territorial integrity and to refrain from interfering in each other’s internal affairs.

3 — The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran commit to negotiating and achieving the final deal in maximum 60 days, extendable with mutual consent.

4 — Immediately upon the signing of this MOU, the United States of America will begin the removal of its naval blockade and any disturbances or impediments against the Islamic Republic of Iran, and will fully end the naval blockade within 30 days. During this period, the traffic of vessels will be in proportion to the numbers of pre-war traffic being restored by the Islamic Republic of Iran. The United States of America further undertakes to remove its forces from the proximity of the Islamic Republic of Iran within 30 days after the final deal.

5 — Upon the signing of this MOU, the Islamic Republic of Iran will make arrangements using its best efforts for the safe passage of commercial vessels with no charge, for 60 days only, from the Persian Gulf to the Sea of Oman and vice versa. The traffic of commercial vessels will immediately start, and considering the need for removing the technical and military obstacles, and demining by the Islamic Republic of Iran will be instated within 30 days. The Islamic Republic of Iran will conduct dialog with the Sultanate of Oman to define the future administration and maritime services in the Strait of Hormuz in discussion with other Persian Gulf littoral states in line with the applicable international law and the sovereign rights of coastal states of the Strait of Hormuz.

6 — The United States of America undertakes with regional partners to develop a definitive, mutually agreed plan with at least USD 300 billion for the reconstruction and economic development of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The mechanism for the implementation of this plan will be finalized as part of a final deal within 60 days. All required licenses, waivers and permissions needed for the relevant financial transactions will be granted by the United States of America.

7 — The United States of America undertakes to terminate all types of sanctions against the Islamic Republic of Iran, including the United Nations Security Council resolutions, IAEA Board of Governors resolutions, and all unilateral US sanctions, primary and secondary, in an agreed upon schedule as part of the final deal. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America acknowledge the critical importance of the sanctions termination issue above mentioned, and expressed their intentions to immediately address these issues in the negotiations in order to achieve mutual agreement on them.

8 — The Islamic Republic of Iran reaffirms that it shall not procure or develop nuclear weapons. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran have agreed to resolve the disposition of stockpiled enriched material pursuant to a mechanism that will be mutually agreed upon in accordance with the schedule mentioned in paragraph seven, with the minimum methodology to be down blended on site under the supervision of the IAEA. The two parties also agreed to discuss the issue of enrichment and other mutually agreed matters related to the Islamic Republic of Iran’s nuclear needs, based on a satisfactory framework being agreed upon in the final deal. The final deal will confirm the provisions of this paragraph. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran acknowledge the critical importance of the nuclear issues above mentioned. They express their intention to immediately address these issues in the negotiations in order to achieve mutual agreement on them.

9 — Pending the final deal, the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran agree to maintain the status quo. The Islamic Republic of Iran will maintain the current status quo of its nuclear program, and the United States of America will not impose any new sanctions and will not deploy additional forces in the region.

10 — The United States of America undertakes that immediately upon the signing of this MOU and until the termination of sanctions, US Department of Treasury will issue waivers for the export of Iranian crude oil, petroleum products and derivatives, and all associated services, including banking transactions, insurances, transportation, etc.

11 — The United States of America undertakes to make fully available for use the frozen or restricted funds and assets of the Islamic Republic of Iran upon the implementation of this MOU. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran will mutually agree on the procedures related to the release of these funds during negotiations. Such funds, whether retained in the original account or transferred, shall be made fully usable for payment to any ultimate beneficiary designated by the Central Bank of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The United States of America undertakes to issue all necessary licenses and authorizations accordingly.

12 — The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran agree that an executive mechanism will be established to monitor the successful implementation of this MOU and the future compliance of the final deal.

13 — After signing this MOU, and subject to the beginning of the implementation of paragraphs 1, 4, 5, 10 and 11 of this MOU, and the continuing implementation of these measures, the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran will start negotiations regarding the final deal exclusively on the other paragraphs.

14 — The final deal will be endorsed by a binding UNSC resolution.

54 minutes ago, paco said:

Looks like they officially released the agreement

The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran have jointly agreed in good faith on [ __ date] on the following:

1 — The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran and their allies in the current war are signing this MOU to declare the immediate and permanent termination of military operations on all fronts, including in Lebanon, and undertake from now on not to initiate any war or any military operation against each other, and to refrain from the threat or use of force against each other, and ensuring the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Lebanon. The final deal will confirm the permanent termination of the war on all fronts, including in Lebanon and other provisions of this paragraph.

2 — The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran undertake to respect each other’s sovereignty and territorial integrity and to refrain from interfering in each other’s internal affairs.

3 — The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran commit to negotiating and achieving the final deal in maximum 60 days, extendable with mutual consent.

4 — Immediately upon the signing of this MOU, the United States of America will begin the removal of its naval blockade and any disturbances or impediments against the Islamic Republic of Iran, and will fully end the naval blockade within 30 days. During this period, the traffic of vessels will be in proportion to the numbers of pre-war traffic being restored by the Islamic Republic of Iran. The United States of America further undertakes to remove its forces from the proximity of the Islamic Republic of Iran within 30 days after the final deal.

5 — Upon the signing of this MOU, the Islamic Republic of Iran will make arrangements using its best efforts for the safe passage of commercial vessels with no charge, for 60 days only, from the Persian Gulf to the Sea of Oman and vice versa. The traffic of commercial vessels will immediately start, and considering the need for removing the technical and military obstacles, and demining by the Islamic Republic of Iran will be instated within 30 days. The Islamic Republic of Iran will conduct dialog with the Sultanate of Oman to define the future administration and maritime services in the Strait of Hormuz in discussion with other Persian Gulf littoral states in line with the applicable international law and the sovereign rights of coastal states of the Strait of Hormuz.

6 — The United States of America undertakes with regional partners to develop a definitive, mutually agreed plan with at least USD 300 billion for the reconstruction and economic development of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The mechanism for the implementation of this plan will be finalized as part of a final deal within 60 days. All required licenses, waivers and permissions needed for the relevant financial transactions will be granted by the United States of America.

7 — The United States of America undertakes to terminate all types of sanctions against the Islamic Republic of Iran, including the United Nations Security Council resolutions, IAEA Board of Governors resolutions, and all unilateral US sanctions, primary and secondary, in an agreed upon schedule as part of the final deal. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America acknowledge the critical importance of the sanctions termination issue above mentioned, and expressed their intentions to immediately address these issues in the negotiations in order to achieve mutual agreement on them.

8 — The Islamic Republic of Iran reaffirms that it shall not procure or develop nuclear weapons. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran have agreed to resolve the disposition of stockpiled enriched material pursuant to a mechanism that will be mutually agreed upon in accordance with the schedule mentioned in paragraph seven, with the minimum methodology to be down blended on site under the supervision of the IAEA. The two parties also agreed to discuss the issue of enrichment and other mutually agreed matters related to the Islamic Republic of Iran’s nuclear needs, based on a satisfactory framework being agreed upon in the final deal. The final deal will confirm the provisions of this paragraph. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran acknowledge the critical importance of the nuclear issues above mentioned. They express their intention to immediately address these issues in the negotiations in order to achieve mutual agreement on them.

9 — Pending the final deal, the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran agree to maintain the status quo. The Islamic Republic of Iran will maintain the current status quo of its nuclear program, and the United States of America will not impose any new sanctions and will not deploy additional forces in the region.

10 — The United States of America undertakes that immediately upon the signing of this MOU and until the termination of sanctions, US Department of Treasury will issue waivers for the export of Iranian crude oil, petroleum products and derivatives, and all associated services, including banking transactions, insurances, transportation, etc.

11 — The United States of America undertakes to make fully available for use the frozen or restricted funds and assets of the Islamic Republic of Iran upon the implementation of this MOU. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran will mutually agree on the procedures related to the release of these funds during negotiations. Such funds, whether retained in the original account or transferred, shall be made fully usable for payment to any ultimate beneficiary designated by the Central Bank of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The United States of America undertakes to issue all necessary licenses and authorizations accordingly.

12 — The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran agree that an executive mechanism will be established to monitor the successful implementation of this MOU and the future compliance of the final deal.

13 — After signing this MOU, and subject to the beginning of the implementation of paragraphs 1, 4, 5, 10 and 11 of this MOU, and the continuing implementation of these measures, the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran will start negotiations regarding the final deal exclusively on the other paragraphs.

14 — The final deal will be endorsed by a binding UNSC resolution.

I have my doubts that Trump won't backtrack on all this when this many right wing rhetards are sheeting on his deal.

60 days for no charge but then after do they start charging tolls?

This sounds like those promotions from companies

Even the NYP can't spin this

Without taking a look at the recent posts, I am sure I am in agreement with what most everybody has said here. This MOU is an inexcusable disaster. From all appearances, this will go down in history badly, very badly - like Chamberlain in Munich badly. Looks like we're headed for dark times, and our leadership in Washington is MIA. The look on Rubio's face and his body language says it all.

39 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

60 days for no charge but then after do they start charging tolls?

This sounds like those promotions from companies

But now Oman gets tolls too. Unless they divide the strait in two with Iran controlling their side and Oman letting everyone using their coastline free passage. Don’t know the depths of the passage on both sides, but either way this breaks world maritime laws.

It was about fairness all along, apparently. Good thing we got our soldiers killed and lost hundreds of billions of dollars when we could've just figured out what's fair and unfair up front.

53 minutes ago, Procus said:

Without taking a look at the recent posts, I am sure I am in agreement with what most everybody has said here. This MOU is an inexcusable disaster. From all appearances, this will go down in history badly, very badly - like Chamberlain in Munich badly. Looks like we're headed for dark times, and our leadership in Washington is MIA. The look on Rubio's face and his body language says it all.

And who could have ever predicted or seen coming that Trump would be a such a massive failure on the foreign policy stage. Shocking!

2 hours ago, Mike030270 said:

60 days for no charge but then after do they start charging tolls?

This sounds like those promotions from companies

with the cable company after the 60 day no charge you can tell them you gonna cancel and they extend it a few month. We probably worked something like that in there

1 hour ago, Procus said:

Looks like we're headed for dark times

Headed? My dude, we've been here since November '24. Precisely because of you. This is who you voted for. This is who you've chosen to defend at every turn until now. He tried to illegally overturn a fair election and then incited a bloody riot at our nation's capitol, and you defended him. He was convicted of 34 felony counts, and you defended him. He was found liable for rape, and you defended him. Days after he was reelected, Elon Musk goes on national television and does a literal nazì salute, and you defended him.

And now you wanna come here and act like he finally crossed the line? Now you're gonna cry crocodile tears about rudderless leadership? Now you wanna act like nobody could've possibly seen this coming? Nah, dude, you're gonna have to lay in the bed you made. Own the shame, trumpbot. Own it.

18 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Headed? My dude, we've been here since November '24. Precisely because of you. This is who you voted for. This is who you've chosen to defend at every turn until now. He tried to illegally overturn a fair election and then incited a bloody riot at our nation's capitol, and you defended him. He was convicted of 34 felony counts, and you defended him. He was found liable for rape, and you defended him. Days after he was reelected, Elon Musk goes on national television and does a literal nazì salute, and you defended him.

And now you wanna come here and act like he finally crossed the line? Now you're cry crocodile tears about rudderless leadership? Now you wanna act like nobody could've possibly seen this coming? Nah, dude, you're gonna have to lay in the bed you made. Own the shame, trumpbot. Own it.

Yah, Kamala would have saved us from all of this. You are truly a 🤡