4 minutes ago, Procus said:

Yah, Kamala would have saved us from all of this. You are truly a 🤡

Stay retarded, procus. It's better this way.

15 minutes ago, Procus said:

Yah, Kamala would have saved us from all of this. You are truly a 🤡

I mean, she just wouldn’t have gotten into a war with Iran, much like every other President not named Trump. And then of course if from 2016 to now we would’ve had the Holy Trinity of Hilary-Biden-Harris, we’d still be in the JPCOA, Iran would have no ability to get a nuke, the Strait would be open and toll free and generally the world would look similar to the Garden of Eden, with free BJs on every corner. But you losers had to F that up.

5 hours ago, paco said:

Looks like they officially released the agreement

The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran have jointly agreed in good faith on [ __ date] on the following:

1 — The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran and their allies in the current war are signing this MOU to declare the immediate and permanent termination of military operations on all fronts, including in Lebanon, and undertake from now on not to initiate any war or any military operation against each other, and to refrain from the threat or use of force against each other, and ensuring the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Lebanon. The final deal will confirm the permanent termination of the war on all fronts, including in Lebanon and other provisions of this paragraph.

2 — The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran undertake to respect each other’s sovereignty and territorial integrity and to refrain from interfering in each other’s internal affairs.

3 — The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran commit to negotiating and achieving the final deal in maximum 60 days, extendable with mutual consent.

4 — Immediately upon the signing of this MOU, the United States of America will begin the removal of its naval blockade and any disturbances or impediments against the Islamic Republic of Iran, and will fully end the naval blockade within 30 days. During this period, the traffic of vessels will be in proportion to the numbers of pre-war traffic being restored by the Islamic Republic of Iran. The United States of America further undertakes to remove its forces from the proximity of the Islamic Republic of Iran within 30 days after the final deal.

5 — Upon the signing of this MOU, the Islamic Republic of Iran will make arrangements using its best efforts for the safe passage of commercial vessels with no charge, for 60 days only, from the Persian Gulf to the Sea of Oman and vice versa. The traffic of commercial vessels will immediately start, and considering the need for removing the technical and military obstacles, and demining by the Islamic Republic of Iran will be instated within 30 days. The Islamic Republic of Iran will conduct dialog with the Sultanate of Oman to define the future administration and maritime services in the Strait of Hormuz in discussion with other Persian Gulf littoral states in line with the applicable international law and the sovereign rights of coastal states of the Strait of Hormuz.

6 — The United States of America undertakes with regional partners to develop a definitive, mutually agreed plan with at least USD 300 billion for the reconstruction and economic development of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The mechanism for the implementation of this plan will be finalized as part of a final deal within 60 days. All required licenses, waivers and permissions needed for the relevant financial transactions will be granted by the United States of America.

7 — The United States of America undertakes to terminate all types of sanctions against the Islamic Republic of Iran, including the United Nations Security Council resolutions, IAEA Board of Governors resolutions, and all unilateral US sanctions, primary and secondary, in an agreed upon schedule as part of the final deal. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America acknowledge the critical importance of the sanctions termination issue above mentioned, and expressed their intentions to immediately address these issues in the negotiations in order to achieve mutual agreement on them.

8 — The Islamic Republic of Iran reaffirms that it shall not procure or develop nuclear weapons. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran have agreed to resolve the disposition of stockpiled enriched material pursuant to a mechanism that will be mutually agreed upon in accordance with the schedule mentioned in paragraph seven, with the minimum methodology to be down blended on site under the supervision of the IAEA. The two parties also agreed to discuss the issue of enrichment and other mutually agreed matters related to the Islamic Republic of Iran’s nuclear needs, based on a satisfactory framework being agreed upon in the final deal. The final deal will confirm the provisions of this paragraph. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran acknowledge the critical importance of the nuclear issues above mentioned. They express their intention to immediately address these issues in the negotiations in order to achieve mutual agreement on them.

9 — Pending the final deal, the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran agree to maintain the status quo. The Islamic Republic of Iran will maintain the current status quo of its nuclear program, and the United States of America will not impose any new sanctions and will not deploy additional forces in the region.

10 — The United States of America undertakes that immediately upon the signing of this MOU and until the termination of sanctions, US Department of Treasury will issue waivers for the export of Iranian crude oil, petroleum products and derivatives, and all associated services, including banking transactions, insurances, transportation, etc.

11 — The United States of America undertakes to make fully available for use the frozen or restricted funds and assets of the Islamic Republic of Iran upon the implementation of this MOU. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran will mutually agree on the procedures related to the release of these funds during negotiations. Such funds, whether retained in the original account or transferred, shall be made fully usable for payment to any ultimate beneficiary designated by the Central Bank of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The United States of America undertakes to issue all necessary licenses and authorizations accordingly.

12 — The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran agree that an executive mechanism will be established to monitor the successful implementation of this MOU and the future compliance of the final deal.

13 — After signing this MOU, and subject to the beginning of the implementation of paragraphs 1, 4, 5, 10 and 11 of this MOU, and the continuing implementation of these measures, the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran will start negotiations regarding the final deal exclusively on the other paragraphs.

14 — The final deal will be endorsed by a binding UNSC resolution.

Just noticed the repeated "final deal" parts. So the official deal isn't the final one? So there's more pain and suffering in the future?

44 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

I mean, she just wouldn’t have gotten into a war with Iran, much like every other President not named Trump. And then of course if from 2016 to now we would’ve had the Holy Trinity of Hilary-Biden-Harris, we’d still be in the JPCOA, Iran would have no ability to get a nuke, the Strait would be open and toll free and generally the world would look similar to the Garden of Eden, with free BJs on every corner. But you losers had to F that up.

That sounds nice, but that laugh man...

Let him cook!!!!!!

1 hour ago, Procus said:

Yah, Kamala would have saved us from all of this. You are truly a 🤡

You and I know it wouldn't be half as bad under Harris. At least own up to your stupidity.

1 hour ago, VanHammersly said:

I mean, she just wouldn’t have gotten into a war with Iran, much like every other President not named Trump. And then of course if from 2016 to now we would’ve had the Holy Trinity of Hilary-Biden-Harris, we’d still be in the JPCOA, Iran would have no ability to get a nuke, the Strait would be open and toll free and generally the world would look similar to the Garden of Eden, with free BJs on every corner. But you losers had to F that up.

But think of the memes along the way.

Speaking of memes, @The_Omega we need a banger in the worst way right now. Do you have a good one for the Iran deal? Preferably, something about it not being signed in auto pen.

57 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

I mean, she just wouldn’t have gotten into a war with Iran, much like every other President not named Trump. And then of course if from 2016 to now we would’ve had the Holy Trinity of Hilary-Biden-Harris, we’d still be in the JPCOA, Iran would have no ability to get a nuke, the Strait would be open and toll free and generally the world would look similar to the Garden of Eden, with free BJs on every corner. But you losers had to F that up.

Yeah that was a cartoonishly dumb response. Iran defended itself in a way that had likely been game-planned by us for 30-40 years. You need a uniquely, once-in-a-generation stupid administration to not be willing to open a map and say "hey all the world’s oil goes through this strait…what if Iran decided to close it?”

That’s not "any politician would have done it” stupid. That’s illiterate TV game show host president stupid.

40 minutes ago, Lloyd said:

Yeah that was a cartoonishly dumb response. Iran defended itself in a way that had likely been game-planned by us for 30-40 years. You need a uniquely, once-in-a-generation stupid administration to not be willing to open a map and say "hey all the world’s oil goes through this strait…what if Iran decided to close it?”

That’s not "any politician would have done it” stupid. That’s illiterate TV game show host president stupid.

The fact that these people continue to delude themselves into thinking it would be worse under someone else means they are a lost cause. There's almost nothing he can do to make them realize how much they truly Fed up.

4 hours ago, Procus said:

Without taking a look at the recent posts, I am sure I am in agreement with what most everybody has said here. This MOU is an inexcusable disaster. From all appearances, this will go down in history badly, very badly - like Chamberlain in Munich badly. Looks like we're headed for dark times, and our leadership in Washington is MIA. The look on Rubio's face and his body language says it all.

I was not expecting this. Good for you

Or is this trolling?

The facts. Talk about Trump bribing Iran.

Just absolute madness. These ghouls will turn on any position overnight.

This is @Procus level incompetence and @Diehardfan level capitulation

On 4/22/2026 at 4:26 PM, Diehardfan said:

Right, the ones who have been at war with us since the late 70s and have killed 900-1k of our troops since then and who even according to 60 Minutes had enough for 10-12 and have funded two terror groups killing Israeli citizens for decades. Yeah, we are.

I mean come on guys, you think they're just gonna "agree" to not having nukes? Let's not be ridiculous.

@Procus

15 hours ago, Procus said:

Without taking a look at the recent posts, I am sure I am in agreement with what most everybody has said here. This MOU is an inexcusable disaster. From all appearances, this will go down in history badly, very badly - like Chamberlain in Munich badly. Looks like we're headed for dark times, and our leadership in Washington is MIA. The look on Rubio's face and his body language says it all.

The stocks is higher than EVER. Oil price is "tumbling". This is NOT the time for cowardice!!!! HOLD THE LINE

JD did it.

13 hours ago, VanHammersly said:

I haven't seen the ever delusional Trump team boasting about this as a victory condition so this was very likely a final humiliation negotiated into the deal.

wow, what a huge victory this is.

for iran.

11 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

I haven't seen the ever delusional Trump team boasting about this as a victory condition so this was very likely a final humiliation negotiated into the deal.

they are busy sitting on donut pillows after the arse reaming, they just got from daddy.