1 minute ago, Phillyterp85 said:

So odd, when Trump campaigned on NOT going to war with Iran, I don’t remember you once saying "now just hold on a minute Mr. Trump, they’ve killed our people. We should go to war with them!”

1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:

This should go well

4 minutes ago, Mlodj said:

Given the damage visible on the Strike Eagles (rear of the jets) and the crew's survival it would appear the kills used AIM-9s most likely fired WVR. Inexcusable.

Had to be an issue with IFF, unless it was a rogue Kuwaiti pilot who hates us.

10 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said:

Had to be an issue with IFF, unless it was a rogue Kuwaiti pilot who hates us.

Most of the nations in the Middle East are not renowned for their ability to maintain the avionics on their aircraft.

4 minutes ago, Mlodj said:

Most of the nations in the Middle East are not renowned for their ability to maintain the avionics on their aircraft.

VFR FTW!

21 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

So odd, when Trump campaigned on NOT going to war with Iran, I don’t remember you once saying "now just hold on a minute Mr. Trump, they’ve killed our people. We should go to war with them!”

That's actually not what he did. He took a hard stance against them having those weapons saying "they can never have them" while saying he wanted to use sanctions etc. They came into negotiations, saying they had the ability to make 11, and essentially said, too bad so he bombed the crap out of them like he said he would do in Nov of 25 on 60 Minutes. "I will bomb the crap out of them" exact quote. He kept his promise.

36 minutes ago, Mlodj said:

Given the damage visible on the Strike Eagles (rear of the jets) and the crew's survival it would appear the kills used AIM-9s most likely fired WVR. Inexcusable.

Don't we share IFF squawk codes with allies when we're in their airspace?

28 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said:

Had to be an issue with IFF, unless it was a rogue Kuwaiti pilot who hates us.

Beat me to it

5 hours ago, mr_hunt said:

uhhhhh…….

MacGregor is a pro-Russian stooge.

The only only worthwhile commentator to come out of 73 Easting was McMaster.

1 hour ago, Mlodj said:

Given the damage visible on the Strike Eagles (rear of the jets) and the crew's survival it would appear the kills used AIM-9s most likely fired WVR. Inexcusable.

How TF do you get close enough to launch an AIM-9 and not figure out that they're allied aircraft? I mean it's not exactly a BVR engagement.

2 hours ago, Mlodj said:

I cannot understand how anyone was seeing anything since Ukraine kicked off again and didn't immediately invest a bajillion dollars in SHORAD capability.

Military.com

Commanders Accused of Framing Iran War as Biblical Mandat...

More than 100 complaints were made by military officers between Monday and Tuesday, totaling over 200 in total across every installation.

1 hour ago, NOTW said:

It's good to be a nepo baby

2 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Beat me to it

That’s what I did in the Navy. Mode 4 has since been replaced with mode 5, but the same principle. When I first got in, we were still using TSEC/kit-1a. The full device was a real PITA. I was happy when we went to a new version that was filled with the same full device we used on all our encrypted gear at the time, the good old Kyk-13. Easily the most sensitive piece of equipment I ever had to handle.

edit: Hegseth says it was an American submarine that launched a torpedo. Anyone think we aren't at war?

Gotta love Trump's explanation "I got the sense Iran would attack first". Not "we had information" OR "our intelligence uncovered" but just "I got the sense". That's what the US foreign policy is based on these days.

Here are some right wing profiles reacting to Rubio's explanation that we were forced to go in now because of the Israeli plans.

Then there is MTG, Tucker, Candace, Dave Smith, Bannon, Fuentes, and even Megyn Kelly (begrudgingly).