5 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

Howie can laugh all he wants, the Pats don't have to give up exactly what he wants. They're already not giving it up so now they definitely don't have to.

Howie isn't the one driving trade talks, the Pats are desperate for him and Howie who holds all the power and control here, and doesn't have to trade AJ, set a high asking price and isn't budging. The Pats then turned to Doubs on a ridiculous overpay. So yeah, Howie would be laughing at that.

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

????? Howie holds all the cards. He doesnt have to trade him...

Right and that's what I hope. My point is, most thought we had the Pats by the nards because they lost out on Pierce and they'd cave into the demands of a 1st & 2nd. I definitely don't see them caving in now. So they don't get AJ and Howie can't move him either. I'm on record of not wanting to trade him I'm just following all the free agency tea leaves.

3 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Howie isn't the one driving trade talks, the Pats are desperate for him and Howie who holds all the power and control here, and doesn't have to trade AJ, set a high asking price and isn't budging. The Pats then turned to Doubs on a ridiculous overpay. So yeah, Howie would be laughing at that.

If the Pats were that desperate they'd have made the deal already. It certainly sounds like Howie has been trying hard to maneuver things to trade AJ as of late.

5 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Does anyone know the deadline for Goedert's contract to turn into a 20mil hit?

It's today, I just haven't seen anyone reliable say an exact time. I saw midnight on twitter but I would have thought they would need to file an extension with the league in time so it would be around 4/5PM.

2 minutes ago, NOTW said:

If you had to choose between retaining stud defensive All-Pro players and dealing with some cheap signings as supplements that may not work out vs losing those stud core players because you spent money on mid-tier guys you would choose to keep the core All Pro guys.

The goal is to build through the draft, free agency is a supplement. If you choose to focus on only the negative things (a pattern), and consider last year a "bust" in free agency then that's your choice. The overall strategy of building through the draft and supplementing in free agency and trade won them a Super Bowl. The Seahawks are losing guys from their roster too. That happens when you are the best team and win a championship.

This is not the choice though. You can retain key guys and still add players that work out. They happened not to last offseason. You seem to be arguing that it was a fait accompli that the Eagles were going to add trash in free agency last offseason and that's simply not true. They just picked the wrong players. They evaluated poorly. They need to evaluate correctly this time around. Can't have another year of their free agent signings not working out and them scrambling to try to fill those holes during the season or at the trade deadline. Some of their moves this offseason need to hit. And maybe get a little more creative than they did last offseason. than signing guys Fangio didn't even want and not even consulting him on some of these guys.

If you believe Howie Roseman is a great GM then you should also believe he's great enough to maneuver his way into adding effective pieces even in an environment with limited resources at his disposal. He's done it before. Last season he didn't do a great job at it. It's important he rebounds this year.

I agree building through the draft is the best way to go. But that doesn't change the fact that the Eagles free agent class last year sucked. Not sure why there's such a hangup acknowledging that. No one bats 1.000.

4 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

Right and that's what I hope. My point is, most thought we had the Pats by the nards because they lost out on Pierce and they'd cave into the demands of a 1st & 2nd. I definitely don't see them caving in now. So they don't get AJ and Howie can't move him either. I'm on record of not wanting to trade him I'm just following all the free agency tea leaves.

They also know about the post June 1st impact, and both sides could simply be waiting for that. Howie may be saying, pre-June 1st if you want him now this is the price. Pats may come back after June 1st. Who knows.

3 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

If the Pats were that desperate they'd have made the deal already. It certainly sounds like Howie has been trying hard to maneuver things to trade AJ as of late.

No, it doesn't. That's media click bait talking about it constantly every day. Howie has no reason to trade him right now.

Just now, NOTW said:

No, it doesn't. That's media click bait talking about it constantly every day. Howie has no reason to trade him right now.

Disagree. It's not clickbait when Garofolo is reporting that Howie is exploring "unique avenues" to make a trade work like doing half the trade now and half the trade post June 1st.

2 minutes ago, NOTW said:

No, it doesn't. That's media click bait talking about it constantly every day. Howie has no reason to trade him right now.

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Disagree. It's not clickbait when Garofolo is reporting that Howie is exploring "unique avenues" to make a trade work like doing half the trade now and half the trade post June 1st.

Yeah, that wasn't some click bait I don't think. It came from Garofolo and McMullen said Howie was trying pretty hard too.

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Disagree. It's not clickbait when Garofolo is reporting that Howie is exploring "unique avenues" to make a trade work like doing half the trade now and half the trade post June 1st.

We get you dont like AJ but thats total clickbait

3 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

This is not the choice though. You can retain key guys and still add players that work out. They happened not to last offseason. You seem to be arguing that it was a fait accompli that the Eagles were going to add trash in free agency last offseason and that's simply not true. They just picked the wrong players. They evaluated poorly. They need to evaluate correctly this time around. Can't have another year of their free agent signings not working out and them scrambling to try to fill those holes during the season or at the trade deadline. Some of their moves this offseason need to hit. And maybe get a little more creative than they did last offseason. than signing guys Fangio didn't even want and not even consulting him on some of these guys.

If you believe Howie Roseman is a great GM then you should also believe he's great enough to maneuver his way into adding effective pieces even in an environment with limited resources at his disposal. He's done it before. Last season he didn't do a great job at it. It's important he rebounds this year.

I agree building through the draft is the best way to go. But that doesn't change the fact that the Eagles free agent class last year sucked. Not sure why there's such a hangup acknowledging that. No one bats 1.000.

Most of the replacements were already on the roster or were taken in the draft. Hunt, Steen, Ojomo, Campbell, Mukuba. Good players. They failed big time banking on Ringo, should've kept Rodgers. They got some cheap guys for depth like Uche, Ojulari. They tried during preseason to address some things due to injuries or concerns with getting Bennet, Za'Darius Smith out of retirement, etc. Free agency last year was not the main goal. Nitpicking that as failure is missing the bigger picture. Not all moves ever work out, draft or free agency or trades. He did get Bigsby, then the coaches didn't use him. Adoree Jackson was adequate at CB2 considering. Last year's offseason was about one thing: keeping the stud players they drafted. Period.

2 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

We get you dont like AJ but thats total clickbait

Not true on both accounts

Click bait is Josina Anderson just recycling old news acting as if its new reporting.

6 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Disagree. It's not clickbait when Garofolo is reporting that Howie is exploring "unique avenues" to make a trade work like doing half the trade now and half the trade post June 1st.

If the Pats are desperate and that insistent, having discussions about ways to make it work doesn't mean he's desperate or anything. The Pats are the ones that want him badly, Howie can keep him post June 1st and save money.

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Not true on both accounts

Just now, NOTW said:

If the Pats are desperate and that insistent, having discussions about ways to make it work doesn't mean he's desperate or anything. The Pats are the ones that want him badly, Howie can keep him post June 1st and save money.

No one said Howie is desperate. But based on the reporting, he's trying harder than just listening in the last few days then he was before.

28 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

And lost another Eagle

No loss.

28 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Ex Eagle news

omg...I thought that was Bill Burr photoshopped into a PIT uniform...

Did they pass the Goedert deadline without a restructure?

That would be a55.

2 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Most of the replacements were already on the roster or were taken in the draft. Hunt, Steen, Ojomo, Campbell, Mukuba. Good players. They failed big time banking on Ringo, should've kept Rodgers. They got some cheap guys for depth like Uche, Ojulari. They tried during preseason to address some things due to injuries or concerns with getting Bennet, Za'Darius Smith out of retirement, etc. Free agency last year was not the main goal. Nitpicking that as failure is missing the bigger picture. Not all moves ever work out, draft or free agency or trades. He did get Bigsby, then the coaches didn't use him. Adoree Jackson was adequate at CB2 considering. Last year's offseason was about one thing: keeping the stud players they drafted. Period.

I never said it was the main goal. All I said was their free agency last year sucked. And it did. It's not nitpicking a failure or missing a bigger picture it's just acknowledging the reality of the situation and analyzing all aspects of their offseason for the sake of discussion. They would have been somewhat better off if their free agent signings worked out better. They didn't. And it cost them picks and money. And their draft wasn't anything to write home about either honestly. Overall just not a great offseason by Howie. You can accomplish your main goal by keeping your own guys and still not a have a great offseason. Both things can be reality. It's not just on Howie either Patullo was part of the offseason and Sirianni gets blame for that. They can lock up all the guys they want and that's great, but that's not gonna help em win ball games in 2026. If we're sitting here in late November and they're a .500 team no one's gonna be saying "Who cares, they locked up their own players!" They need to have a better offseason. They need to have a better offseason than last year or expect more regression in 2026.

Just now, Sack that QB said:

I never said it was the main goal. All I said was their free agency last year sucked. And it did. It's not nitpicking a failure or missing a bigger picture it's just acknowledging the reality of the situation and analyzing all aspects of their offseason for the sake of discussion. They would have been somewhat better off if their free agent signings worked out better. They didn't. And it cost them picks and money. And their draft wasn't anything to write home about either honestly. Overall just not a great offseason by Howie. You can accomplish your main goal by keeping your own guys and still not a have a great offseason. Both things can be reality. It's not just on Howie either Patullo was part of the offseason and Sirianni gets blame for that. They can lock up all the guys they want and that's great, but that's not gonna help em win ball games in 2026. If we're sitting here in late November and they're a .500 team no one's gonna be saying "Who cares, they locked up their own players!" They need to have a better offseason. They need to have a better offseason than last year or expect more regression in 2026.

Do you think last years free agency sucked? I don't know if the board understood it the first 40 times you have said it.

11 minutes ago, Iggles25 said:

Did they pass the Goedert deadline without a restructure?

That would be a55.

I'm not 100% certain, but I think I remember reading that it was either 4pm or 5pm EST...so if it's not been passed already, it is imminent...

16 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

They're going to have to trade AJ and Carter for like 10 picks in order to try to fill all the roster holes.

Pryor had more than half of his snaps come in the last regular season game of the year. He only had 122 snaps in total. I think Howie will figure it out.

22 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Not true on both accounts

Click bait is Josina Anderson just recycling old news acting as if its new reporting.

Not true on both accounts

Click bait is Josina Anderson just recycling old news acting as if its new reporting.

Breaking news

1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

Not true on both accounts

Click bait is Josina Anderson just recycling old news acting as if its new reporting.

2 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Pryor had more than half of his snaps come in the last regular season game of the year. He only had 122 snaps in total. I think Howie will figure it out.