I think most of the 1st round WRs have major flaws, or holes in their game, or not attractive size or athletic traits. WRs in this draft become really attractive in rounds 2 and 3. Some of those height weight speed guys come in to play there. Guys that seem about equal to the 1st round talents who seem like a better value a round later...

8 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I agree, but Howie already laid out his thought process on needing more cheap talent on offense.

As for round 2 or 3 safety, yeah, if there’s on sticking out at the top of their board they should take him.

I think he's 100% right. They have to get younger and cheaper on offense. That should be the overall goal of the offseason. But if the draft doesn't fall their way it'll just compound their problems. For now, just hope the draft falls their way. But I posted a few days ago that going someone like Blake Miller at 23, a dude who maxes out as a mid NFL tackle at 23 would be like the worst pick for me. Not because he's some bum who can't play. But knowing how the Eagles evaluate talent and how Howie always covets blue chip upside, there's no way in hell Blake Miller would be circled as a blue chip talent, and if they took a guy like that it would be clear Howie got desperate and reached for a need. It's why I wouldn't be mad if they go defense first because then, yeah, it would suck they couldn't get that young cheap offensive talent, but at least they stuck to their board. If you do that, in the long run you'll succeed.

48 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

This upcoming draft will be illuminating. There are immediate needs on defense at Edge and maybe Safety. There isn't a TE signed beyond 2026. That said, it is clear from long-term roster construction perspective that they need to get younger on offense. Especially the OL.

I know you have been pounding the table for a quality DE. IMO, Howie will go OL in round one (assuming the board falls normally). The team sees both Smith and Hunt as starters at Edge. Look for a DE and maybe TE on day-2

14 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Garrett and Carter would just be unfair lol defense could carry the offense. Do it Howie

9 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I think he's 100% right. They have to get younger and cheaper on offense. That should be the overall goal of the offseason. But if the draft doesn't fall their way it'll just compound their problems. For now, just hope the draft falls their way. But I posted a few days ago that going someone like Blake Miller at 23, a dude who maxes out as a mid NFL tackle at 23 would be like the worst pick for me. Not because he's some bum who can't play. But knowing how the Eagles evaluate talent and how Howie always covets blue chip upside, there's no way in hell Blake Miller would be circled as a blue chip talent, and if they took a guy like that it would be clear Howie got desperate and reached for a need. It's why I wouldn't be mad if they go defense first because then, yeah, it would suck they couldn't get that young cheap offensive talent, but at least they stuck to their board. If you do that, in the long run you'll succeed.

This is a bad draft class. Only 1 first-round QB, RB, iOL, and TE. Middling WRs. No stud DTs.

Is there enough at Edge, CB, S, and LB to keep some target OTs out of the top-20?

Lots of different opinions on the OT prospects. If we are looking at a Lane replacement, how would rank them?

Proctor

Freeling

Iheanchor

Fano

The Eagles should have a shot at one or two of them. Obviously, Proctor is a freak that combines size with movement skills. A little worried about his ability to handle speed rushers at next level. Freeling is smooth, great movement skills but a little light in the pants. Scouting report says he is susceptible to inside moves. Iheanchor probably has the most upside, still looks raw but handled David Bailey fine. Fano looks comfortable in pass pro. Not as powerful, concerns about arm length and strength

3 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

This upcoming draft will be illuminating. There are immediate needs on defense at Edge and maybe Safety. There isn't a TE signed beyond 2026. That said, it is clear from long-term roster construction perspective that they need to get younger on offense. Especially the OL.

I know you have been pounding the table for a quality DE. IMO, Howie will go OL in round one (assuming the board falls normally). The team sees both Smith and Hunt as starters at Edge. Look for a DE and maybe TE on day-2

If they go Ioane in round 1, great. I think he's one of the 7 best players in this draft. If they go Miller, Lumo, Proctor I'm gonna puke. Miller and Lumo max out as mid NFL tackles IMO. Proctor as least has some upside but is a bust risk, he was not good in 2025, got beat a lot. But I think he could be a great guard, so I'd be less annoyed about that. Iheanachor would be pretty early at 23. If he fell to round 2, great. But if they ended up taking Miller or Lumo over say TJ Parker, Cashius Howell, Emmanuel McNeil-Warren, Tyson, Sadiq I'm gonna lose my Fing mind.

And then it compounds the problem because if you take a guy like Miller or Lumo, they aren't going to start at tackle until next season barring injury. So then next draft if you do get a stud OT fall in your lap, you probably aren't taking them because it's like "Well, we just drafted a tackle last year and we have to give him a chance, so we can't take another one, the guy won't have anywhere to play."

I just hope Ioane falls a bit and they either do a slight move up for him or he falls to them at 23. He's the one OL in the first round I think is a legitimate cornerstone piece. Even a guy like Freeling who most mocks have going in the teens to me isn't a sure thing at all. This OT class sucks and they'll regret forcing it there if that's what they end up doing.

9 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

This is a bad draft class. Only 1 first-round QB, RB, iOL, and TE. Middling WRs. No stud DTs.

Is there enough at Edge, CB, S, and LB to keep some target OTs out of the top-20?

Theres hardly a target OT inside the top 20 let alone outside of it. Youre getting a developmental OT in this draft one way or the other so you may as well wait on that till the mid rounds.

The WR talent is more stacked in day 2, and early day 3. So you dont need or necessarily want a 1st round WR either.

Best talent at positions of need will be edge and safety.

2 minutes ago, Cliftoma said:

Lots of different opinions on the OT prospects. If we are looking at a Lane replacement, how would rank them?

Proctor

Freeling

Iheanchor

Fano

The Eagles should have a shot at one or two of them. Obviously, Proctor is a freak that combines size with movement skills. A little worried about his ability to handle speed rushers at next level. Freeling is smooth, great movement skills but a little light in the pants. Scouting report says he is susceptible to inside moves. Iheanchor probably has the most upside, still looks raw but handled David Bailey fine. Fano looks comfortable in pass pro. Not as powerful, concerns about arm length and strength

They all look like guards except Iheanachor who is developmental.

Also, Proctor isnt a fit for the offense being primarily outside zone in the run game.

Pass on all of them. Taking one of them is a desperation move that gets you in to trouble.

If I have to rank them as OT

Freeling/Iheanachor as 1 1a

Fano 3

As OG

Freeling clear 1

Fano clear 2

Proctor not a fit

For some other team OG- Freeling 1, Proctor 2 only because of bustability factor but can realistically be 1, Fano 3.

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

They all look like guards except Iheanachor who is developmental.

Also, Proctor isnt a fit for the offense being primarily outside zone in the run game.

Pass on all of them. Taking one of them is a desperation move that gets you in to trouble.

Yeah, I kind of had the same feeling unless you are moving Proctor to OG or bet that you can coach up Iheanchor throughout the year to eventually replace Lane.

I know you have beating the drum for safety or edge in Round 1. You are probably right in terms of BPA. You have also been big on Howell but this pro comparison almost made me puke 😅

Just now, Cliftoma said:

Yeah, I kind of had the same feeling unless you are moving Proctor to OG or bet that you can coach up Iheanchor throughout the year to eventually replace Lane.

I know you have beating the drum for safety or edge in Round 1. You are probably right in terms of BPA. You have also been big on Howell but this pro comparison almost made me puke 😅

I am hurt.

51 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

I get he's good but he's 30 years old and will be 31 before the end of the season. MAYBE he has 2-3 seasons left of elite play. You don't give up that much for him.

One 1st and one 2nd not in the same year plus a guy who has had one dominant season and has motivation/shoulder concerns at a position we already threw a big contract at.

I love Carter when he's on, but it's a gamble his shoulders are a one time problem (doubt it) and that he stays motivated after getting paid.

Garrett will probably have 2-3 seasons of elite play at a dire position of need and then probably 2 solid years. Going into this season with hunt, Smith, a 2 cheap FA is not the move. So they either draft one high and hope he performs out the gate or they go hunting

2 minutes ago, devpool said:

One 1st and one 2nd not in the same year plus a guy who has had one dominant season and has motivation/shoulder concerns at a position we already threw a big contract at.

I love Carter when he's on, but it's a gamble his shoulders are a one time problem (doubt it) and that he stays motivated after getting paid.

Garrett will probably have 2-3 seasons of elite play at a dire position of need and then probably 2 solid years. Going into this season with hunt, Smith, a 2 cheap FA is not the move. So they either draft one high and hope he performs out the gate or they go hunting

If this was 4 years ago I'd consider it for sure, but bodies break down quickly. Long retired at 32 or 33. I forget when Reggie dropped off. If they move Carter they could get a lot of picks. At least what the Jets got for Williams. Combine that with an additional first and 2nd and that's too rich for my blood for a few years.

My feeling is they won a SB with one of the most dominating defenses we've seen since the Reggie days. All they had was Sweat, Hunt, BG, and Smith. They don't need an elite edge to be dominate like that again, which is what we are all hoping for. Maybe they have to give up a 3rd and a 5th to get someone at that level, but it lets them use the other picks to rebuild.

For people wanting a MG trade when was the last time a team with an edge of his talent level won the SB? 2016 with the Broncos? They don't need one.

38 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Theres hardly a target OT inside the top 20 let alone outside of it. Youre getting a developmental OT in this draft one way or the other so you may as well wait on that till the mid rounds.

The WR talent is more stacked in day 2, and early day 3. So you dont need or necessarily want a 1st round WR either.

Best talent at positions of need will be edge and safety.

Thoughts on Howie bailing out round one into day two, where there is better value. A similar deal to what he did in 2018?

3 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Thoughts on Howie bailing out round one into day two, where there is better value. A similar deal to what he did in 2018?

I was thinking about it the other week, if there's a team willing to give Howie a Falcons/Rams type trade from last year's draft(trading their 2 and a future 1st to move back into round 1) if I'm Howie I do that in a heartbeat. Like if a team is willing to give up their 2 and 2027 1st to move up from the 2nd round to get to 23 and draft Ty Simpson or something, I'd take that and run. The 2027 draft is going to be loaded and if I'm Howie I'm doing everything I can to get as many top 50-100 picks in that draft as possible.

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

I think most of the 1st round WRs have major flaws, or holes in their game, or not attractive size or athletic traits. WRs in this draft become really attractive in rounds 2 and 3. Some of those height weight speed guys come in to play there. Guys that seem about equal to the 1st round talents who seem like a better value a round later...

I’d be pretty happy with Concepcion at 23.

I do like the fact that he is capable of dropping in coverage ala Hunt. Something Huff was not capable of doing. Not sure if he big enough to set the edge. Worried that we would be getting another one trick pony.

7 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Nice guy, his arm still sucks though.

Don't forget in 2024 the Eagles tried badly to move up for an OT(rumors were Fautanu) and couldn't. Stuck to the board and got Quinyon, which was a blessing.

Fautanu has been solid when he's played but had injury issues in college, got hurt as a rookie. Always stick to the board.

When did Hurts get Groucho eyebrows?

7 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

When did Hurts get Groucho eyebrows?

Where you been? He and the dad from American Pie have the same ones.

I Mmm The I

27 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

Jimmy Kempski nicknaming him "Self Tackling Jeremy Maclin" early on did him no favours whatsoever with how some people perceived him.

Kempski started out being a real jerk but eventually leveled off. Some of his stick figures are classic.

2 hours ago, devpool said:

In what way? You trade an unpredictable, though extremely talented, DT who already has shoulder issues for a guaranteed HOF edge which is a position of dire need.

For one year, maybe. After that, no.