1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I wasn’t head over heels about Deebo Samuel. I liked him but watching him in this offense I love that kid. He’s tough and you can get creative with him. His YAC is fun to watch. he’s gonna run through you. He runs angry. I would love to see them do some of route concepts and creativity stuff with jalen reagor

Him and Aiyuk are gonna be a heck of a tandem. I'd take Aiyuk right now over Reagor, in a heartbeat 

5 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

Him and Aiyuk are gonna be a heck of a tandem. I'd take Aiyuk right now over Reagor, in a heartbeat 

No way. Aiyuk in this offense would be worse than Mack Hollins.

4 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

If you trade Slay, you need another CB in the draft.  It is a good class but losing that fourth (Avery) and sixth (Howard) hurts. 

Cisco gambles and misses at times but he is not playing with a Slay and Surtain as I proposed. Think Slay speed and true S size.  

Our needs have dropped to zero; we aren’t competing in 2021.

They need building block talent at key positions.  What they don’t need to worry about is filling holes.  If they go into next year with no cbs after trading Slay, who cares?

Find a QB, build a OL, get weapons.  That will take 2 years of building from a better GM, at best.  I could not care less who our cbs, lbs, rbs, or DTs are in the meantime.  Have open tryouts for all I care.

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

No way. Aiyuk in this offense would be worse than Mack Hollins.

It's impossible to fairly judge Reagor this season based on how bad the team and offense have been. You can see by what he did yesterday that he isn't a total bust like JJAW, but judging him against other WR's taken in 2020 is silly. It's why the clamoring over Jefferson is silly to me. Jefferson is obviously legit, but if anyone thinks he would look anywhere near good as he has if he were in Philly this season is full of crap.

8 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

It's impossible to fairly judge Reagor this season based on how bad the team and offense have been. You can see by what he did yesterday that he isn't a total bust like JJAW, but judging him against other WR's taken in 2020 is silly. It's why the clamoring over Jefferson is silly to me. Jefferson is obviously legit, but if anyone thinks he would look anywhere near good as he has if he were in Philly this season is full of crap.

Agreed. Just saying, a guy like Aiyuk needs manufactured touches even more than Reagor. He would be a total dud on this offense. 

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Agreed. Just saying, a guy like Aiyuk needs manufactured touches even more than Reagor. He would be a total dud on this offense. 

I would agree. Reagor needs work on his route running, Aiyuk needs even more work on it. He's a great fit in the Shanahan scheme though.

Wentz is going to be the QB going into 2021 unless Hurts leads the team to the playoffs. Then there will be a QB competition this offseason. 
 

Either way I in no way see Hurts being the franchise QB here. He probably ends up having a decent career as a backup/bridge year QB like Tyrod Taylor because that’s who he basically is. 

I’m not going rule out different leadership being able to make this a 10 or 11 win team. We see it all the time in this league. 

Players I think that may be worth trading for a solid pick or two... 

Sanders 

Goedert 

Sweat 

Seumalo 

4 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

I would agree. Reagor needs work on his route running, Aiyuk needs even more work on it. He's a great fit in the Shanahan scheme though.

He’s a great fit for that scheme because he’s very similar to what Deebo Samuel is. I think Deebo is a little more physical after the catch then aiyuk but you can utilize their skill set very similarly and route concepts. When they were coming out of the draft reagor and aiyuk I thought both of them needed to get better out route running. It’s why I wouldn’t of taken either one at 20 and try to trade back into the later part of the first round where I thought you could justify it more. Jefferson I thought or you could justify at 20 if you believe he could play the outside at a good NFL level. Not saying he couldn’t or he could just that if you believe that you could have taken him at 20.

My biggest problem with reagor so far is route running. When you watch it on tape at times he looked right at it and then there’s other times you look at it and can see it’s lazy. I also agree with Manu that I think he still overthinking out on the field. It’s why I don’t think you see him sometimes using the athleticism and speed that he has to his fullest. I think he gets more comfortable with the playbook and more experience and I’m hoping off-season activities this off-season he will look much better in your two. Also the offense hopefully has better quarterbacking and playcalling so that you can also see it next year.

1 hour ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Players I think that may be worth trading for a solid pick or two... 

Sanders 

Goedert 

Sweat 

Seumalo 

I think slay is on there depending on what someone is willing to offer. If someone comes with 2nd I’m willing to consider it. And not because he sucks. It is, he is going to be 30 next year. If you believe to turn this team back into a playoff/Super Bowl contender is going to take you multiple seasons then you’re better off trading him away, getting some cap space and a valuable draft pick to start the build up to that team. Because if it’s gonna take two years by the time you get there he’s gonna be 32 and probably exiting his prime. 

The guys on that list I don’t really wanna trade (possibly Sanders if they don’t plan on re-signing him in 2 years). If I’m doing a rebuild and I think it’s gonna take me 2 years all those guys you have listed are going to still be in their primes of their career. So you’re going to maximize their talent on the field when you get back to where you are a contender. I’m trading guys that still have value that I don’t think in two years are going to be in their prime anymore or contributing majorly to this team when we’re back to being a contender. Guys like slay and ertz makes sense because they are likely going to be coming to the end or out of their prime by the time you rebuild back up. So you can still maximize value because a contender believe they could be a missing piece to winning a Super Bowl.

1 hour ago, Ace Nova said:

I have a feeling Sanders may be nursing some sort of (undisclosed) injury.  Just a guess. 

2 hours ago, Ace Nova said:

In time.  Reagor is working on becoming a polished NFL receiver and he seems to be getting better every week.  Once he truly learns the playbook and the route tree, so it comes naturally to him (right now you can tell he's doing a lot of thinking out there), then they will likely start to get really creative with him.  One step at a time. 

it doesn’t take very much to do a jet sweep for 7 games he’s played. That’s not that tough of a concept to do. Additionally it should be a comfort thing for him as he did it multiple times last year at TCU and his career. He had 35 rushing attempts. And most where of that nature. this isn’t a foreign concept to him.

Additionally running a crossing route more than once time per game with his speed is something he did at TCU often. That is not a foreign route. Additionally running different types of screen is not something is foreign to him. They did it quite often at TCU. This is on the coaching staff just not doing a jet sweep until 7 weeks of games. and lack of using him on those two types of routes way more often and instead of Greg Ward on a screen is on your coaching staff.  Yes some of things deebo and aiyuk do is cause he isn’t ready but those things he has done in the past. It shouldn’t take weeks to figure that out. 

and this is not just a Jalen reagor issue as well. I have this issue with multiple players 

1 hour ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Players I think that may be worth trading for a solid pick or two... 

Sanders 

Goedert 

Sweat 

Seumalo 

The plan can’t be to trade away literally all the talent on the team 

31 minutes ago, Allhaildawk said:

The plan can’t be to trade away literally all the talent on the team 

Absolutely. They should be looking to keep the young talent they do have. 

This is sad. 

1 minute ago, WentzFan11 said:

This is sad. 

20 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

This is sad. 

And to think we went in to this year thinking we were in a good position because of our QB and HC.

7 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

What would you rather have. Howie fired or Chase/Sewell?

Since I don’t follow college, I don’t know them from anyone else, so easily, Howie fired. 

28 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said:

Since I don’t follow college, I don’t know them from anyone else, so easily, Howie fired. 

No brainer. Howie fired. I'd happily pass on an elite talent if it means getting rid of Howie. 

9 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Have two monday, Tuesday and Thursday games this week. I imagine this is what heaven is like. 

More football but your favorite team sucks? I don't think that's heaven. 

9 hours ago, SBorBust said:

It’s like I’m watching part of the 4th quarter of yesterday’s game.

Fyp

5 hours ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Players I think that may be worth trading for a solid pick or two... 

Sanders 

Goedert 

Sweat 

Seumalo 

The team already has an extreme lack of talent, let's get rid of what little talent they do have! 

Out of that list sanders is the only one that should even be considered. Guy is always hurt and won't be getting a second contract here.

8 hours ago, NCiggles said:

It’s as if adding quality skill players and coordinating the offense to fit your QB’s strengths are a recipe for success. 

Or God forbid keep running some when it's working

8 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

What would you rather have. Howie fired or Chase/Sewell?

Why does it have to be a choice. I want both and throw in Doug as well.