45 minutes ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

This exactly also the new Wentzcuse, Wentzcuse #27, is that Doug called plays to help Hurts that he never does with Wentz.  Lol

Assuming that it was Doug that was calling the plays that were moving the ball effectively 

1 hour ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

This exactly also the new Wentzcuse, Wentzcuse #27, is that Doug called plays to help Hurts that he never does with Wentz.  Lol

Yep, which is embarrassing. Doug calls great plays for Foles and Hurts, but can't or purposely calls bad plays for Wentz.

2 hours ago, philafan4o8 said:

What the... Fulgham posting that?

8 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

What the... Fulgham posting that?

Yup, I think that speaks volumes about how players feel about Wentz

16 hours ago, eggs said:

I know there’s been speculation that the cumulative injuries Wentz has suffered in recent years have reduced his effectiveness. Could it also be that games this season like the Washington game where he was sacked hard multiple times could have meant that he has been playing hurt this year so his mechanics are off and also his confidence?  Tough to to say what all this means long term, but clearly the organization factored nis injuries into the decision to take Hurts in the second round. 

His mechanics have been off since his rookie year so... no. 
 

He was better but not great with mechanics in 2017, but outside of that one year he’s ALWAYS had issues with mechanics. 

Anyone listen to sports talk radio in Philly. In general WIP straight up trashes Wentz, and 97.5 makes every excuse in the book for him. I hate hot take city WIP but I'm about ready to switch because I can't take the constant excuses from the majority of people at 97.5.

2 hours ago, T-1000 said:

Anyone listen to sports talk radio in Philly. In general WIP straight up trashes Wentz, and 97.5 makes every excuse in the book for him. I hate hot take city WIP but I'm about ready to switch because I can't take the constant excuses from the majority of people at 97.5.

There is nothing 97.5 says that I have not read on other teams message boards I have visited.

On 12/13/2020 at 8:49 PM, T-1000 said:

Yep, which is embarrassing. Doug calls great plays for Foles and Hurts, but can't or purposely calls bad plays for Wentz.

25:75 run pass ratio and 6 designed rollouts over 4 weeks backs that up.

How will the fans react if Wentz is on the field again in an Eagles uniform? I can't imagine it's going to be good. 

So do the Eagles coaches and front office even have a choice at this point? Seems like we're pretty effectively forcing their hands here. If they try to stick with Wentz in 2021, we might create such a stink that it'll be one of the team's biggest obstacles that year -- especially if he doesn't play extremely well from the very first snap.  

Giglio mentioned in a tweet that Wentz said he didn’t want to run "Foles plays” after he became the starter. I vaguely remember this, anyone else? Was supposedly in a phillyvoice piece. Also in Domo’s latest with Banner, Joe theorizes that the "won’t be a back-up” story did not come from Wentz or his agent but from friends who are teammates of Wentz. If true this actually pisses me off more. That would mean Wentz is ****ing to Ertz etc., not something I would expect a leader to do.

42 minutes ago, Runtherock said:

Giglio mentioned in a tweet that Wentz said he didn’t want to run "Foles plays” after he became the starter. I vaguely remember this, anyone else? Was supposedly in a phillyvoice piece. Also in Domo’s latest with Banner, Joe theorizes that the "won’t be a back-up” story did not come from Wentz or his agent but from friends who are teammates of Wentz. If true this actually pisses me off more. That would mean Wentz is ****ing to Ertz etc., not something I would expect a leader to do.

He's obviously b!tching to someone.  Schefter didn't just make up a fake source.

On 9/14/2020 at 9:03 AM, EaglesRocker97 said:

Secondly, there has never seemed to be much of an internal effort to challenge Wentz from a football standpoint and coach him up to his potential. I believe it was only two years ago that we heard Wentz was not getting along with his QB coach (DeFelippo) over trying to fix his mechanics and, more generally, that he has a history of getting into arguments with his coaches. At the end of season, they lost two coaches (DeFelippo and Reich) with the stature and cajones to challenge Wentz  to be better, as well as the skill needed to gameplan around him. Rather than hire on new coaches with a similar willingness and ability to challenge Wentz, the FO opted to promote internally, elevating guys who lacked the reputation and qualifications (Groh and Taylor) to coach an NFL QB and command the respect of a seemingly entitled prospect like Wentz.

You know the more I hear or read about Carson giving resistance to change the more I wonder how anyone will ever expect him to. I tell you we will know a lot about Carson if the Eagles do actually put him out there for a trade and the Colts say no thanks. Really why would Reich or anyone else  want to have to endure a player who doesn’t want to be coached or isn’t willing to listen to the coach? People need to just stop acting like this is okay and stop fooling themselves into thinking this is normal. I know visions of his only double digit win season is dancing in the heads of his  apologists, but really you have to be off your rocker at this point for anyone to think this guy after all these years and telling us week after week in interviews the complete opposite, he’s suddenly willing to be coached. 

You know, despite Wentz's poor performance this year, let's not forget overall what we've gotten from our QBs in the Doug Pederson era. Compare that to the McNabb era where he never had a 90+ passer rating until the Superbowl 2004 year with TO. 

I think we've been spoiled. Even without great mechanics Wentz is still miles above what we typically had at QB in the Reid era. 

2 hours ago, opa-opa said:

You know, despite Wentz's poor performance this year, let's not forget overall what we've gotten from our QBs in the Doug Pederson era. Compare that to the McNabb era where he never had a 90+ passer rating until the Superbowl 2004 year with TO. 

I think we've been spoiled. Even without great mechanics Wentz is still miles above what we typically had at QB in the Reid era. 

That may well be a fair point. But also, why is Doug seemingly better with the back ups than he is with Wentz?

2 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

That may well be a fair point. But also, why is Doug seemingly better with the back ups than he is with Wentz?

I think he expects more out of Wentz, as he should. However, if you see the guy struggling or getting reckless Doug should reel him in and help him out. 

53 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

I think he expects more out of Wentz, as he should. However, if you see the guy struggling or getting reckless Doug should reel him in and help him out. 

He's done a good job of coaching Hurts so far so I really don't think Doug is the issue in this scenario. 

27 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

He's done a good job of coaching Hurts so far so I really don't think Doug is the issue in this scenario. 

We will see, the pass attempts are going up as are the sacks and the fumbles. Seems they are heading in the same direction. Hopefully Hurts handles it better then Carson

5 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

That may well be a fair point. But also, why is Doug seemingly better with the back ups than he is with Wentz?

Not sure but I've heard that Wentz often audibles out of the called plays because he thinks he knows better.

2 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

We will see, the pass attempts are going up as are the sacks and the fumbles. Seems they are heading in the same direction. Hopefully Hurts handles it better then Carson

Hurts' success solely relies on his ability to run for his life and make some broken plays.  The league will figure him out and Doug will have no answers.

38 minutes ago, E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles said:

Hurts' success solely relies on his ability to run for his life and make some broken plays.  The league will figure him out and Doug will have no answers.

Agreed on the ruining and broken plays. There is nothing to figure out though, the league is littered with run first QBs he isn't new. Just need to contain him, I think arizona did a little bit better job of that. 

1 hour ago, Toty said:

BRING BACK KOLB!

I want AJ Feeley or Jay Fiedler!

On 12/25/2020 at 8:38 PM, wyote said:

How will the fans react if Wentz is on the field again in an Eagles uniform? I can't imagine it's going to be good. 

I'd welcome it if Washington and Eagles lose today to give less chance of Cowboys going to Playoffs.

2 hours ago, E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles said:

Hurts' Wentz' success solely relies relied on his ability to run for his life and make some broken plays.  The league will figured him out and Doug had will have no answers for his total ineptitude.

Fixed your post.

6 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

We will see, the pass attempts are going up as are the sacks and the fumbles. Seems they are heading in the same direction. Hopefully Hurts handles it better then Carson

I think certainly this year he'll handle it better than Wentz. Hurts seems to have real control and composure right now. Probably brought about by less pressure to produce. 

5 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Doug is the HC.  His once really good QB and offense has been horrible and you don’t put any blame on the head coach?  Either you coach him up and figure out or you don’t.  That’s on the HEAD Coach.  Ultimately it’s his ass.  

Given that his offense has come to life with good QB play? After having horrid QB play the first 11 or so weeks...