1 minute ago, Godfather said:

Did he actually post the one of Howie making love?

I don't think so, he "teased" it. 🤮

2 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Those banned guys would ruin the forums trolling and fighting with each other. Now y'all are talking about them for pages. Let it go. Didn't one of them harass VA?

Anyway real Eagles football coming soon. What trade will Howie make before the first game? He gonna sign Ertz?

I suspect RTK went to the youtube page.

1 minute ago, NOTW said:

I don't think so, he "teased" it. 🤮

He's ghey too

1 minute ago, Godfather said:

I'll start the mayhem. Stowers is a bust

@Joe Ball "what were the old EMB boards like back in the day?"

15 minutes ago, St0nedsk8er said:

lol he is and that’s why the thought of letting thousands of us at em at one point , in a single forum is still funny to this day. But he’d downplay any criticism and say crap like Reggie brown and Ryan Moats are the next big thing! Oh and who can forget Sean Considine put on 15 lbs this off-season 😆

I remember everyone trying to kiss his ass

In honor of Shocker. Season prediction

Turnteen and fo

10 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

@mattwill your persistent comments about my negativity sufficiently irritated me to partially accept your challenge. I took your position-by-position 2026 comp and analysis of lineup holes and ran it by Chatgpt, Claude, and reddit message general NFL discussion board....only issue is reddit didn't take the bait and the boards for specific team auto-restrict any Eagles content.

Your take (mostly cut and pasted):

We have no holes in the 22 starters.
QB: Improved because Jalen Hurts will now run more with new OC.
RB: RB is stronger now than it was 12 months ago. Barkley improved this year over 2025 due to longer offseason. Bigsby improved over last year due to more time with the team.
WR: Wicks caught 30 out of 44 targets last year with an 11.1 YPC average and is not a hole as WR2. Cooper in the WR3 slot is not a hole. Losing AJ Brown offset by his toxicity being removed.
TE: TE2 is an inline blocking position and is not a hole with Mundt. But overall less talented this year.
OC: improved because Jurgens is healthier and has better depth.
RT: Improved because Lane Johnson was injured last year and not this year. Bell is better depth.
LG: Improved. Dickerson health is a question mark but position improved because better depth.
LT: Improved with same starter and better depth with Bell.
RG: Improved with another year experience for Steen and better depth.

DT: Improved because of more experience for the starters.
DE: Improved and more talented with Greenard.
LB: push. Still with Baun. Lost Dean replaced with Campbell.
CB: Improved with new CB2 and more experience for Mitchell/Dejean.
S: push.
In summary: no holes. About 11 positions/groups improved. About 1 step back. About 3 pushes.

The ask: Hoping some non Eagles fans with some separation from the situation can help settle a friendly debate with your perspective on the Eagles roster, specifically with the comparison of upgrades vs downgrades of 2026 versus last year. (I won't tell you where I fall on this debate). Grade the take, -10 being negative, 0 being spot on, +10 being homertastic bias.

ChatGPT:

I’d score this +8/10 homertastic.

The Eagles still have an elite, contender-level roster. But the analysis uses an asymmetrical standard: every favorable projection is booked as an upgrade, while injuries, aging, uncertainty, and major departures are minimized.

Group	Neutral verdict
QB	Push / possible improvement. More designed runs may help Hurts, but a new system isn’t automatically an upgrade—especially with a first-time OC installing major changes.
RB	Push / slight improvement. Bigsby’s added familiarity and Barkley’s longer offseason help. But Barkley is now 29 after 280 carries, so "definitely improved” is too confident.
WR	Major downgrade and legitimate question mark. A.J. produced 78 catches, 1,003 yards and seven TDs. Wicks had 30/332/2; Cooper had 9/92/0. "Removing toxicity” might improve harmony, but it doesn’t replace an elite X receiver who dictates coverage. Official 2025 statistics
TE	Slight downgrade/question. Mundt can fill the blocking assignment, but Stowers has been hurt and Calcaterra is on IR. The fact that Philadelphia has considered further TE help tells you the position isn’t entirely settled.
C	Slight upgrade. A healthier Jurgens plus improved depth is reasonable.
RT	Push / slight upgrade. Healthy Lane is enormous, but Lane is 36 and Bell remains a promising, currently banged-up rookie—not proven depth.
LG	Push. Dickerson potentially being healthier helps, but his durability remains a real uncertainty.
LT	Push. Mailata is still elite. One rookie swing tackle shouldn’t be counted as a separate upgrade at both LT and RT.
RG	Slight upgrade. Steen’s additional development and better interior depth make this fair.
DT	Slight upgrade. Natural development from Carter, Davis and Ojomo is a reasonable projection, although another birthday doesn’t automatically equal improvement.
EDGE	Push / possible upgrade. Greenard has the better pass-rushing résumé than Phillips, but he had only three sacks in an injury-shortened 2025 and is currently returning from a pec injury. It’s promising, not yet bankable.
LB	Push. Campbell’s upside and extra experience can offset Dean’s departure. Fair assessment.
CB	Clear upgrade. Woolen plus another year for Mitchell and DeJean could make this an exceptional trio.
S	Downgrade/question—not a push. Blankenship departed; Epps was predominantly a backup last year; Mukuba is returning from a broken ankle; and full-time safety depth is thin. Safety has repeatedly been identified as Philadelphia’s biggest weakness. Current depth chart

A more defensible ledger is approximately:

• Five upgrades: C, RG, DT, EDGE—tentatively—and CB

• Six pushes: QB, RB, RT, LG, LT, LB

• Three downgrades: WR, TE and S

And the WR downgrade is substantially larger than, say, improved backup depth at center.

The three biggest homer tells are:

1. Healthy Eagles are counted as upgrades, while Greenard’s current injury barely registers.

2. Youthful players receive automatic improvement for aging, while Barkley, Lane and Goedert receive no aging risk.

3. A.J.’s "toxicity” is used to erase 1,000 yards and seven touchdowns.

So: excellent roster, entirely credible contender, but "no holes and 11 upgrades versus one downgrade” is aggressive Eagles accounting. +8.

Claude:

Fun exercise. I'd score this around a +6: not delusional homerism, but it leans on nearly every classic homer rationalization. Here's the tell — of 15 position groups, your friend found 11 upgrades, 3 pushes, and exactly one downgrade... on a team that just traded a 1,000-yard WR1 and lost its starting linebacker. When every question mark resolves in your favor, that's the bias talking.

Where the assessment is fair:

• DE/Edge: Legitimately improved. The Greenard trade made an already strong front seven even better — he's earned pass-rush grades above 70.0 and generated 45+ pressures in each of the past three seasons, and Ebiketie adds depth. Though note Greenard missed all of training camp with injury and was activated from the PUP list, with the team expecting him to play sometime within the first month — so even the clearest upgrade comes with an asterisk your friend didn't mention. Pro Football FocusNBC10 Philadelphia

• DT: The Carter/Davis/Ojomo trio is genuinely elite; calling it strong is just accurate.

• CB: Reasonable. Mitchell and DeJean entering year three is a real thing, and Woolen is a credible CB2.

Where the homerism shows:

• WR is the big one. "Losing AJ Brown offset by his toxicity being removed" is peak homer logic. The neutral view: the trade made long-term sense, netting a 2028 first-rounder, but there's no replacing a player of his caliber in the short term — even in a down year he topped 1,000 yards in 2025. Wicks' 11.1 YPC on 44 targets is a WR3/4 stat line being sold as proof he's a solid WR2, and Lemon is a rookie. Chemistry arguments have some validity, but "addition by subtraction" involving a top-15 receiver is a downgrade until proven otherwise. This should be the clear step back, not TE2. Pro Football Focus

• The health double-standard. Lane Johnson (age 36) is an upgrade because he "won't be injured this year," but Dickerson's health is waved off because of depth. Assuming your own guys stay healthy is the single most common form of fan bias. Also note Hurts is learning a new offense under Sean Mannion with mixed results in training camp — a new OC is a variable, not an automatic QB upgrade. NBC Sports Philadelphia

• "More experience" as a universal upgrade. Steen, Bigsby, Mitchell, DeJean, the DT rotation — young players improving with experience is plausible but not guaranteed, and it's applied to every single young Eagle while no aging Eagle (Johnson, Goedert, Dalton-tier depth) is assumed to decline.

• LB as a push is generous — swapping Nakobe Dean for a second-year Campbell might work out, but calling it a wash preemptively is optimistic.

A neutral evaluator would probably say: roster is legitimately top-5 in the NFL, defense probably did improve, but WR took a real short-term hit, and the honest tally is more like 5-6 upgrades, 5-6 pushes, and 2-3 downgrades or open questions. "No holes" and "11 upgrades, 1 step back" is where it tips from optimism into homer territory — hence +6 rather than something closer to 0.

4 minutes ago, NOTW said:

@Joe Ball "what were the old EMB boards like back in the day?"

No lawsuits or sex toys involved

Ok, it’s absolutely hilarious that someone is not banned, but is not allowed to post in this thread 😂

1 minute ago, Godfather said:

No lawsuits or sex toys involved

Straight to the Mom thread!

1 hour ago, Godfather said:

He's a legend

He was boring as hell. Jangling keys had more staying power

Just now, DEagle7 said:

He was boring as hell. Jangling keys had more staying power

Disagree

Just now, Godfather said:

Disagree

best use of disagreement I have ever witnessed.

7 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I remember everyone trying to kiss his ass

I was warned once or twice for calling him ghey

5 minutes ago, Parrot Head said:

Ok, it’s absolutely hilarious that someone is not banned, but is not allowed to post in this thread 😂

If you're lucky, he'll like your post

18 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

@mattwill your persistent comments about my negativity sufficiently irritated me to partially accept your challenge. I took your position-by-position 2026 comp and analysis of lineup holes and ran it by Chatgpt, Claude, and reddit message general NFL discussion board....only issue is reddit didn't take the bait and the boards for specific team auto-restrict any Eagles content.

Your take (mostly cut and pasted):

We have no holes in the 22 starters.
QB: Improved because Jalen Hurts will now run more with new OC.
RB: RB is stronger now than it was 12 months ago. Barkley improved this year over 2025 due to longer offseason. Bigsby improved over last year due to more time with the team.
WR: Wicks caught 30 out of 44 targets last year with an 11.1 YPC average and is not a hole as WR2. Cooper in the WR3 slot is not a hole. Losing AJ Brown offset by his toxicity being removed.
TE: TE2 is an inline blocking position and is not a hole with Mundt. But overall less talented this year.
OC: improved because Jurgens is healthier and has better depth.
RT: Improved because Lane Johnson was injured last year and not this year. Bell is better depth.
LG: Improved. Dickerson health is a question mark but position improved because better depth.
LT: Improved with same starter and better depth with Bell.
RG: Improved with another year experience for Steen and better depth.

DT: Improved because of more experience for the starters.
DE: Improved and more talented with Greenard.
LB: push. Still with Baun. Lost Dean replaced with Campbell.
CB: Improved with new CB2 and more experience for Mitchell/Dejean.
S: push.
In summary: no holes. About 11 positions/groups improved. About 1 step back. About 3 pushes.

The ask: Hoping some non Eagles fans with some separation from the situation can help settle a friendly debate with your perspective on the Eagles roster, specifically with the comparison of upgrades vs downgrades of 2026 versus last year. (I won't tell you where I fall on this debate). Grade the take, -10 being negative, 0 being spot on, +10 being homertastic bias.

ChatGPT:

I’d score this +8/10 homertastic.

The Eagles still have an elite, contender-level roster. But the analysis uses an asymmetrical standard: every favorable projection is booked as an upgrade, while injuries, aging, uncertainty, and major departures are minimized.

Group	Neutral verdict
QB	Push / possible improvement. More designed runs may help Hurts, but a new system isn’t automatically an upgrade—especially with a first-time OC installing major changes.
RB	Push / slight improvement. Bigsby’s added familiarity and Barkley’s longer offseason help. But Barkley is now 29 after 280 carries, so "definitely improved” is too confident.
WR	Major downgrade and legitimate question mark. A.J. produced 78 catches, 1,003 yards and seven TDs. Wicks had 30/332/2; Cooper had 9/92/0. "Removing toxicity” might improve harmony, but it doesn’t replace an elite X receiver who dictates coverage. Official 2025 statistics
TE	Slight downgrade/question. Mundt can fill the blocking assignment, but Stowers has been hurt and Calcaterra is on IR. The fact that Philadelphia has considered further TE help tells you the position isn’t entirely settled.
C	Slight upgrade. A healthier Jurgens plus improved depth is reasonable.
RT	Push / slight upgrade. Healthy Lane is enormous, but Lane is 36 and Bell remains a promising, currently banged-up rookie—not proven depth.
LG	Push. Dickerson potentially being healthier helps, but his durability remains a real uncertainty.
LT	Push. Mailata is still elite. One rookie swing tackle shouldn’t be counted as a separate upgrade at both LT and RT.
RG	Slight upgrade. Steen’s additional development and better interior depth make this fair.
DT	Slight upgrade. Natural development from Carter, Davis and Ojomo is a reasonable projection, although another birthday doesn’t automatically equal improvement.
EDGE	Push / possible upgrade. Greenard has the better pass-rushing résumé than Phillips, but he had only three sacks in an injury-shortened 2025 and is currently returning from a pec injury. It’s promising, not yet bankable.
LB	Push. Campbell’s upside and extra experience can offset Dean’s departure. Fair assessment.
CB	Clear upgrade. Woolen plus another year for Mitchell and DeJean could make this an exceptional trio.
S	Downgrade/question—not a push. Blankenship departed; Epps was predominantly a backup last year; Mukuba is returning from a broken ankle; and full-time safety depth is thin. Safety has repeatedly been identified as Philadelphia’s biggest weakness. Current depth chart

A more defensible ledger is approximately:

• Five upgrades: C, RG, DT, EDGE—tentatively—and CB

• Six pushes: QB, RB, RT, LG, LT, LB

• Three downgrades: WR, TE and S

And the WR downgrade is substantially larger than, say, improved backup depth at center.

The three biggest homer tells are:

1. Healthy Eagles are counted as upgrades, while Greenard’s current injury barely registers.

2. Youthful players receive automatic improvement for aging, while Barkley, Lane and Goedert receive no aging risk.

3. A.J.’s "toxicity” is used to erase 1,000 yards and seven touchdowns.

So: excellent roster, entirely credible contender, but "no holes and 11 upgrades versus one downgrade” is aggressive Eagles accounting. +8.

Claude:

Fun exercise. I'd score this around a +6: not delusional homerism, but it leans on nearly every classic homer rationalization. Here's the tell — of 15 position groups, your friend found 11 upgrades, 3 pushes, and exactly one downgrade... on a team that just traded a 1,000-yard WR1 and lost its starting linebacker. When every question mark resolves in your favor, that's the bias talking.

Where the assessment is fair:

• DE/Edge: Legitimately improved. The Greenard trade made an already strong front seven even better — he's earned pass-rush grades above 70.0 and generated 45+ pressures in each of the past three seasons, and Ebiketie adds depth. Though note Greenard missed all of training camp with injury and was activated from the PUP list, with the team expecting him to play sometime within the first month — so even the clearest upgrade comes with an asterisk your friend didn't mention. Pro Football FocusNBC10 Philadelphia

• DT: The Carter/Davis/Ojomo trio is genuinely elite; calling it strong is just accurate.

• CB: Reasonable. Mitchell and DeJean entering year three is a real thing, and Woolen is a credible CB2.

Where the homerism shows:

• WR is the big one. "Losing AJ Brown offset by his toxicity being removed" is peak homer logic. The neutral view: the trade made long-term sense, netting a 2028 first-rounder, but there's no replacing a player of his caliber in the short term — even in a down year he topped 1,000 yards in 2025. Wicks' 11.1 YPC on 44 targets is a WR3/4 stat line being sold as proof he's a solid WR2, and Lemon is a rookie. Chemistry arguments have some validity, but "addition by subtraction" involving a top-15 receiver is a downgrade until proven otherwise. This should be the clear step back, not TE2. Pro Football Focus

• The health double-standard. Lane Johnson (age 36) is an upgrade because he "won't be injured this year," but Dickerson's health is waved off because of depth. Assuming your own guys stay healthy is the single most common form of fan bias. Also note Hurts is learning a new offense under Sean Mannion with mixed results in training camp — a new OC is a variable, not an automatic QB upgrade. NBC Sports Philadelphia

• "More experience" as a universal upgrade. Steen, Bigsby, Mitchell, DeJean, the DT rotation — young players improving with experience is plausible but not guaranteed, and it's applied to every single young Eagle while no aging Eagle (Johnson, Goedert, Dalton-tier depth) is assumed to decline.

• LB as a push is generous — swapping Nakobe Dean for a second-year Campbell might work out, but calling it a wash preemptively is optimistic.

A neutral evaluator would probably say: roster is legitimately top-5 in the NFL, defense probably did improve, but WR took a real short-term hit, and the honest tally is more like 5-6 upgrades, 5-6 pushes, and 2-3 downgrades or open questions. "No holes" and "11 upgrades, 1 step back" is where it tips from optimism into homer territory — hence +6 rather than something closer to 0.

This may be the most optimistic thing you have ever posted.

I was a little kid but I still remember that game. Two cheap players have single-handedly kept the Eagles from winning Super Bowls. Paup and Roy Williams.

Well that was a fun 11 pages of back reading. Go birds DH!

1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:

I was a little kid but I still remember that game. Two cheap players have single-handedly kept the Eagles from winning Super Bowls. Paup and Roy Williams.

Berman might be one of the worst things in espn history

21 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I took your position-by-position 2026 comp and analysis of lineup holes and ran it by Chatgpt, Claude, and reddit message general NFL discussion board..

1 minute ago, Wentz_Era said:

Well that was a fun 11 pages of back reading. Go birds DH!

We have 12 days until kick off... I'm sure we can talk about other things as well

27 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Birds going 13-4 and winning the Super Bowl.

Got it

2 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Got it

Need a weekly prediction guy