9 minutes ago, tuffstuff07 said:

Looks like pagnetti has coached all the offensive positions almost but only spent 1 line as an assistant line coach under stoutland.

Maybe he could help kueper or the players with the scheme but would be hard to say

From Wiki, he had 3 different seasons as Asst OL coach, one of them 2024, their most successful. Good enough for me! Kuper is garbage. Plus contributing as run game specialist worked closely with Stout those years anyway, and the overall experience with the Eagles.

• Oregon (2007–2012)

  • Undergraduate offensive intern (2007-2008)

  • Student assistant (offense and quarterbacks) (2009-2011)

  • Offensive intern (quarterbacks) (2012)

• Philadelphia Eagles (2013–2014)
  Analyst (offense and quarterbacks)

• Oregon (2015-2016)
  Graduate assistant/linebackers coach

• Philadelphia Eagles (2017–2024)

  • Offensive quality control/assistant offensive line coach (2017-2018)

  • Assistant running backs coach (2019-2020)

  • Offensive quality control coach (2021-2022)

  • Run game specialist/assistant tight ends coach (2023)

  • Run game specialist/assistant offensive line coach (2024)

• New Orleans Saints (2025–2026)
  Run game coordinator

17 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

There is no world where I believe Mailata, Lane, Dickerson and Jurgens turned on Stoutland. None.

Those 4? Absolutely not. Others? The FO? Who knows?

Howie and Lurie took control of the coaching staff in the offseason. It was them who hired Mannion, not Sirianni. Either Stoutland resented Sirianni so much...and Howie/Lurie had to choose Sirianni simply because you can't really fire a HC after a first round exit 1 year removed from a SB title....or Sirianni wasn't the only reason for Stoutland's departure. And, to be clear, Sirianni wouldn't be the one that forced out Stoutland. He may have handcuffed his responsibilities in 2025 which led to Stoutland leaving out of frustration. But Sirianni isn't in charge.

And the offense sucked in 2025. If Stoutland left because he was so butt hurt that Sirianni was trying to change things up for a failing offense and he refused to work under the same roof as a neutered Sirianni with a new OC, then he's not blameless either. If Stoutland left because his scheme doesn't mesh with Mannion's, then that's also not because of Sirianni.

Humor break

32 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I find it very easy to believe that the players would want to change up the run game last year considering its utter ineffectiveness.

However, thats not the same as saying the players wanted a different coach in there doing it. So, both could be true. They wanted a different run scheme, but wanted Stoutland coaching it.

Agree, but how much did it change from the SB year to last? What changed so much in that short of a time IF the players wanted a different scheme? Like you said I doubt they'd want a different coach. I also agree with EAGLES that it was from Nick's camp not long after he was asked about that question on WIP.

41 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

There is no world where I believe Mailata, Lane, Dickerson and Jurgens turned on Stoutland. None.

I don't think they turned on him. Probably just agreed the run game wasn't good but that doesn't equal turning on him

Ben Solak proposed trading Mundt and a 7th to the Vikings for a 6th

I want to see some trades start happening soon!!!!

They need to hire a HC with an offensive philosophy who has control to hire his coordinators and position coaches so the scheme makes sense all the way through. When guys get hired for promotions elsewhere, the philosophy and scheme stays the same and you hire people to execute that offense. We've had coaches pushed onto the HC by the front office and different coaches trying to piece things together.

3 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Hopefully Jerry lives a looong life.

1 hour ago, vikas83 said:

There is no world where I believe Mailata, Lane, Dickerson and Jurgens turned on Stoutland. None.

Yep. That's why JM still says Stout U

7 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Ben Solak proposed trading Mundt and a 7th to the Vikings for a 6th

I'll pay for the uber to the airport