January 30, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, mattwill said: So you have come up with a handful of examples out of 352 opportunities. Can you say, "the exception does not make the rule.” You can say that the GM is paid to find the talent wherever their picks are, not hide behind the defense of 'the guy we wanted was picked ahead of us'. What I highlighted was that talent was available AFTER the Eagles' selections. It is the job of the GM to find the players when they are on the clock, not to cry about how the guys they wanted went earlier. You are taking a page right out of Lurie's crybaby handbook.
January 30, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said: You can say that the GM is paid to find the talent wherever their picks are, not hide behind the defense of 'the guy we wanted was picked ahead of us'. What I highlighted was that talent was available AFTER the Eagles' selections. It is the job of the GM to find the players when they are on the clock, not to cry about how the guys they wanted went earlier. You are taking a page right out of Lurie's crybaby handbook. I haven’t had the pleasure of reading/seeing or even caring about that obsession of yours.
January 30, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, mattwill said: I haven’t had the pleasure of reading/seeing or even caring about that obsession of yours. Well, that's exactly what he came out with when he fired Pederson, but retained Howie. He basically said it wasn't Howie's fault, because Howie had identified the right players, but they just happened to go before the Eagles' selections. No obsession, btw. It was his 'defense' for why Howie wasn't held responsible for his failures.
January 30, 20223 yr Just now, Iggles_Phan said: Well, that's exactly what he came out with when he fired Pederson, but retained Howie. He basically said it wasn't Howie's fault, because Howie had identified the right players, but they just happened to go before the Eagles' selections. As I said above, I really don’t care about that obsession of yours.
January 30, 20223 yr Just now, mattwill said: As I said above, I really don’t care about that obsession of yours. Obsession, eh? You mean listening to the press conference when the owner fires his coach? Or actually believing that there are more than 12 players worth drafting in a given draft is an obsession. I'm not even looking for a stud player... I'm just looking for players that are at a higher level than the JJAWs, Reagors, Barnetts and Joneses that this organization has worked with recently.
January 30, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said: Obsession, eh? You mean listening to the press conference when the owner fires his coach? Or actually believing that there are more than 12 players worth drafting in a given draft is an obsession. I'm not even looking for a stud player... I'm just looking for players that are at a higher level than the JJAWs, Reagors, Barnetts and Joneses that this organization has worked with recently. Your obsession can be characterized by the fact that you have lost sight of the fact that football is a game … a game that attempts to entertain its audience in three hour increments of time. I suspect that if you look at your family budget, the total dollars you spend on the Eagles isn’t in the top 10 categories, but you treat it as if it is your #1 expense/investment. In addition you use 20/20 hindsight to judge decisions that have to be made in real-time by the decisions-makers. And when you step back and objectively look at the real importance those decisions have on the trajectory of your family’s lives the hard truth is that those decisions do not put shoes on your feet or clothes on your children’s backs, or food for your spouse to prepare.
January 30, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, mattwill said: So over an extended period you have 13 examples out of a possible 352 opportunities. Generously that is 3% of the opportunities. 3% is within sniffing distance of "the exception does not make the rule.” Don't be obtuse, or move the goal posts. You said stud defenders get drafted 1-12, what players get drafted after that. I gave plenty of examples that proved you wrong. I didn't say it was a comprehensive list. Regardless, you're being silly. You know damn well other teams are drafting defensive difference makers and Howie isn't.
January 30, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, mattwill said: So over an extended period you have 13 examples out of a possible 352 opportunities. Generously that is 3% of the opportunities. 3% is within sniffing distance of "the exception does not make the rule.” Glancing at the all pro team, not many picks 1-12.
January 30, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, NOTW said: Don't be obtuse, or move the goal posts. You said stud defenders get drafted 1-12, what players get drafted after that. I gave plenty of examples that proved you wrong. I didn't say it was a comprehensive list. Regardless, you're being silly. You know damn well other teams are drafting defensive difference makers and Howie isn't. All teams can choose to-use their 1st round pick on either Offense or Defense but not on both. The Eagles have chosen to go with Offense six out of the last seven years. Is it any surprise that your statement is true? You are stating the obvious … but without any context. If anyone is being silly, it is you. The statistical significance of your examples was a pittance. You should have made that simple mathematical calculation before putting forward an argument that is little more than smoke and mirrors.
January 30, 20223 yr 33 minutes ago, mattwill said: All teams can choose to-use their 1st round pick on either Offense or Defense but not on both. The Eagles have chosen to go with Offense six out of the last seven years. Is it any surprise that your statement is true? You are stating the obvious … but without any context. If anyone is being silly, it is you. The statistical significance of your examples was a pittance. You should have made that simple mathematical calculation before putting forward an argument that is little more than smoke and mirrors. Well first, that argues the point: Howie hasn't even drafted defense enough in the 1st. The defense doesn't have young stud players. Their best players were drafted by someone else. Second, it's already been proven teams find great defensive players outside the top 15 so it doesn't have to be the 1st round. You made a statement, were proven wrong and are trying to dismiss it. Your points of percent of total picks is true of every team, there are low numbers of hits vs mediocre and bust picks. Yet other teams find top defensive talent and Howie doesn't.
January 30, 20223 yr 10 hours ago, NOTW said: Well first, that argues the point: Howie hasn't even drafted defense enough in the 1st. The defense doesn't have young stud players. Their best players were drafted by someone else. Second, it's already been proven teams find great defensive players outside the top 15 so it doesn't have to be the 1st round. You made a statement, were proven wrong and are trying to dismiss it. Your points of percent of total picks is true of every team, there are low numbers of hits vs mediocre and bust picks. Yet other teams find top defensive talent and Howie doesn't. Reading is fundamental. Go back and reread my original comment. "Defensive stud players typically come from picks 1-12. What defensive stud players across the NFL came from picks 13 and beyond?” You have presented a scenario where there are 13 examples out of a total of 352 opportunities. That leaves a residual of 339 examples. A ratio of 339 out of 352 is about as perfect a definition of "typically” as you can get. When you brush up your reading and math skills, you will quickly see that I am not trying to "dismiss” anything. My statement stands as written. If I had said "always” instead of "typically” you would indeed be right. Thank you for acknowledging the fact that the points I have made are true for every team.
January 31, 20223 yr Howie picked Jordan Poyer in the 7th round of the 2013 draft, and he’s All-Pro this year. Does that count?
January 31, 20223 yr Author On 1/29/2022 at 5:40 PM, Columbus Eagle said: Can we sell first round draft picks for cap space? 😉 You mean like Houston did to rid themselves of Brock? Problem is we have very few contracts that we could sell off to make space for us. The current collection of contracts are very inflexible.
January 31, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, BayAreaLennie said: Howie picked Jordan Poyer in the 7th round of the 2013 draft, and he’s All-Pro this year. Does that count? No. He needs to find players that fit the Eagles' schemes, not schemes for other coaches. Poyer didn't even make the Eagles team in 2013.
January 31, 20223 yr Brandon Brooks re-worked his contract prior to his retirement, as reported by Field Yates on Twitter. Yates states the re-work "creates" $12.38M in cap space for 2022, but the reality is that it must transfer that amount of cap hit to later years (but I am willing to be corrected about this by salary cap experts). Still, that's $12.38M of room for 2022.
February 1, 20223 yr Author 5 hours ago, BayAreaLennie said: Brandon Brooks re-worked his contract prior to his retirement, as reported by Field Yates on Twitter. Yates states the re-work "creates" $12.38M in cap space for 2022, but the reality is that it must transfer that amount of cap hit to later years (but I am willing to be corrected about this by salary cap experts). Still, that's $12.38M of room for 2022. Tired as hell and I'm not looking at any non work related #s tonight, but yeah, that sounds correct. They moved Brooks dead cap hit from 2022 to 2023 with the restructure and using a June 1 tag. This is a symptom of the problem. The trick will be, going forward, to lessen it from one year to the next. If he can go into 2023 and not push any new dead cap space to 2024, that would finish a good cap reset.
February 4, 20223 yr On 1/31/2022 at 9:50 PM, paco said: Tired as hell and I'm not looking at any non work related #s tonight, but yeah, that sounds correct. They moved Brooks dead cap hit from 2022 to 2023 with the restructure and using a June 1 tag. This is a symptom of the problem. The trick will be, going forward, to lessen it from one year to the next. If he can go into 2023 and not push any new dead cap space to 2024, that would finish a good cap reset. What does the cap situation currently look like for 2023?
February 5, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, time2rock said: What does the cap situation currently look like for 2023? Cloudy with a chance of hell!!
February 5, 20223 yr 21 hours ago, time2rock said: What does the cap situation currently look like for 2023? Spotrac has them listed with $68M of cap space in 2023. That’s only 27th in the league, but some teams have way less (the Cowboys, e.g., have only $11M) and a lot will happen between now and then. They’re fine … not great, but fine.
February 6, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, BayAreaLennie said: Spotrac has them listed with $68M of cap space in 2023. That’s only 27th in the league, but some teams have way less (the Cowboys, e.g., have only $11M) and a lot will happen between now and then. They’re fine … not great, but fine. Well, it's 68m with 48 plays signed through 2023. The only team close to us with players signed is Minnesota with 32 and 78 million in cap. We're actually in pretty good shape. Dallas has 11 million in space with only 27 players signed. That is....not good. There's a lot of restructuring they need to figure out.
February 6, 20223 yr They'll be fine because Howie manages the cap. Now I'm not giving him huge credit for that but he's rarely put them in a spot. The only time really they've been in a spot is when the pandemic hit and screwed the cap hit. Now that said with a lot of aging players on the roster I do think there's a danger. We know Howie kicks the can A LOT so he could restructure some of those older guys and then they retire and suddenly we are in a hole.
March 8, 20223 yr @paco @downundermike NFL came out with the new cap. Don't know if Roob's figure here is correct but thought I'd share.
March 8, 20223 yr 14 minutes ago, NOTW said: @paco @downundermike NFL came out with the new cap. Don't know if Roob's figure here is correct but thought I'd share. I was shocked to find out the cap was exactly what it was projected to be, and there would not be some miraculous increase.
March 8, 20223 yr Author 10 hours ago, NOTW said: @paco @downundermike NFL came out with the new cap. Don't know if Roob's figure here is correct but thought I'd share. I thought we had 18, but whatever. Dead cap hit is 35 million. Would have been nice to have 55 million to help rebuild the team. Name Cap Number Malik Jackson $9,033,000 Derek Barnett $7,248,800 Alshon Jeffery $5,435,706 Zach Ertz $3,548,000 Anthony Harris $2,408,000 Rodney McLeod $2,140,000 Joe Flacco $1,940,000 Steven Nelson $1,508,000 Eric Wilson $1,372,000 Ryan Kerrigan $1,140,000 Rick Lovato $375,000 John Hightower $150,026 TOTAL $36,454,161 Table source OTC
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