August 3, 20232 yr So back out of an agreement while we controlled a country? Is that it? I can't, but I will try again. THE TALIBAN is to blame and Trump should have NEVER negotiated with terrorists. May 19, 2020 — In releasing its quarterly report on Afghanistan, the DOD inspector general’s office says the U.S. cut troop levels in Afghanistan by more than 4,000, even though "the Taliban escalated violence further after signing the agreement.” "U.S. officials stated the Taliban must reduce violence as a necessary condition for continued U.S. reduction in forces and that remaining high levels of violence could jeopardize the U.S.-Taliban agreement,” according to the report, which covered activity from Jan. 1, 2020, to March 31, 2020. "Even still, the United States began to reduce its forces in Afghanistan from roughly 13,000 to 8,600.” Aug. 18, 2020 — In releasing a report that covered activity in Afghanistan from April 1, 2020, to June 30, 2020, the Defense Department inspector general’s office says, "The Taliban did not appear to uphold its commitment to distance itself from terrorist organizations in Afghanistan. UN and U.S. officials reported that the Taliban continued to support al-Qaeda, and conducted joint attacks with al-Qaeda members against Afghan National Defense and Security Forces.” Sept. 3, 2020 — Afghanistan releases the final 400 Taliban prisoners, as required under the U.S.-Taliban agreement, clearing the way for intra-Afghan peace talks to begin. Sept. 12, 2020 — After seven months of delays, Afghanistan government officials and Taliban representatives meet in Qatar for peace talks. The U.S.-Taliban agreement called for the first peace talks to begin on March 10. Sept. 16, 2020 — The Taliban continued attacks on government forces. The Voice of America reported that "Taliban attacks in three provinces across northern Afghanistan since Tuesday killed at least 17 people, including six civilians, and wounded scores of others even as a Taliban political team was negotiating peace with Afghan government representatives in Doha, Qatar.” Sept. 18, 2020 — At a press conference, Trump says, "We’re dealing very well with the Taliban. They’re very tough, they’re very smart, they’re very sharp. But, you know, it’s been 19 years, and even they are tired of fighting, in all fairness.” Nov. 16, 2020 — Congressional Republicans, responding to news reports that the Trump administration will rapidly reduce forces in Afghanistan, warn of what Sen. Marco Rubio calls "a Saigon-type of situation” in Afghanistan. "A rapid withdrawal of U.S. forces from Afghanistan now would hurt our allies and delight the people who wish us harm,” Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell says. Nov. 17, 2020 — Acting Secretary of Defense Christopher Miller formally announces that the U.S. will reduce U.S. forces in Afghanistan to 2,500 by Jan. 15, 2021. On the same day, the Defense Department IG’s office released a report for the quarter ending Sept. 30, 2020, that said the peace negotiations between the Afghan government and Taliban representatives had stalled and violence increased. "At the same time, the Taliban increased its attacks against Afghan forces, leading to ‘distressingly high’ levels of violence that could threaten the peace agreement,” the report said. Dec. 2, 2020 — After past false starts, Afghan and Taliban negotiators agree on a framework to govern peace negotiations. "At the same time, the Taliban continued its ‘fight and talk’ strategy, increasing violence across the country to increase its leverage with the Afghan government in negotiations,” the Defense Department IG’s office said a quarterly report covering this period. The IG report also continued to warn that the Taliban was apparently violating the withdrawal agreement. "This withdrawal is contingent on the Taliban abiding by its commitments under the agreement, which include not allowing terrorists to use Afghan soil to threaten the United States and its allies,” the report said. "However, it was unclear whether the Taliban was in compliance with the agreement, as members of al-Qaeda were integrated into the Taliban’s leadership and command structure.” Afghanistan’s First Vice President Amrullah Saleh tells the BBC that the Trump administration made too many concessions to the Taliban. "I am telling [the United States] as a friend and as an ally that trusting the Taliban without putting in a verification mechanism is going to be a fatal mistake,” Saleh says, adding that Afghanistan leaders warned the U.S. that "violence will spike” as the 5,000 Taliban prisoners were released. "Violence has spiked,” he added. https://www.factcheck.org/2021/08/timeline-of-u-s-withdrawal-from-afghanistan/
August 3, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: He should have just executed them I guess. What should he have done? Are you serious? He should have not released them until we were out of the country.
August 3, 20232 yr 19 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Lol that was 2019. What happened after that?? Glad you asked. I wonder if Trumper didn't pull out troops that they would be doing this? ISIS steps up attacks in northeast Syria. 9 Hours ag The war monitor stated that this incident occurred amidst a significant escalation of activity by ISIS CELLS. https://www.kurdistan24.net/en/story/32143-ISIS-steps-up-attacks-in-northeast-Syria
August 3, 20232 yr Ef'ing over the Kurds was a bigger screw-up than Afghanistan. The Kurds were one of our few reliable allies in the middle east. Trump quite literally killed them.
August 3, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, Mike31mt said: erased ISIS from the map Other than the fact that Trump didn't do this, sure, yeah, I can see your point.
August 3, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, Mike31mt said: Lol the Taliban was running scared and the US controlled the entire country. There was no way of ending that war without dealing with the Taliban. Imagine putting these two sentences one right after the other and not thinking twice about it.
August 3, 20232 yr Just now, mayanh8 said: Imagine putting these two sentences one right after the other and not thinking twice about it. It was such a bad agreement. But we controlled the country. That part just totally false. How do you control a country while withdrawing troops? It's so baffling to me, I wish Mike would explain. I posted a time line of what was happening in 2020 while the baffoon was still in charge. Here's a quote: We’re dealing very well with the Taliban. They’re very tough, they’re very smart, they’re very sharp. But, you know, it’s been 19 years, and even they are tired of fighting, in all fairness.” They were running scared alright.
August 3, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Mike31mt said: 5000? Biden gave them the entire country and its whole population. 5k is a drop in the bucket This is enlightening though. Its never been clearer how absolute phony liberals are when it comes to war. You guys love war, youre the new neocons. No one is arguing the war should still be going on dufus.
August 3, 20232 yr Just now, Tnt4philly said: No one is arguing the war should still be going on dufus. In Mike's tiny inbred mind, him arguing that Biden is the worst President in history for getting out of Afghanistan doesn't mean he wants us to still be in Afghanistan but us arguing that Trump completely botched the negotiations does. It makes no sense but, again, he's really stupid.
August 3, 20232 yr Imagine being so deranged with your love of a game show host and your irrational hatred of a sitting U.S. president that you actually side and sympathize with islamo-fascist terrorists.
August 3, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, Gannan said: Imagine being so deranged with your love of a game show host and your irrational hatred of a sitting U.S. president that you actually side and sympathize with islamo-fascist terrorists. He also defends domestic terrorists regularly. It's almost like there's a pattern there.
August 3, 20232 yr 22 minutes ago, Gannan said: Imagine being so deranged with your love of a game show host and your irrational hatred of a sitting U.S. president that you actually side and sympathize with islamo-fascist terrorists. 19 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: He also defends domestic terrorists regularly. It's almost like there's a pattern there. And he doesn’t think our troops should get combat pay while protecting American citizens in a country at war. Wait until he finds out troops got combat pay while in Kuwait during OIF. The horror.
August 4, 20232 yr 19 hours ago, Mike31mt said: Thats what I thought....nice try, though, guys. You almost absolved Biden of surrendering an entire country to terrorists. So close. Trump ended ISIS, ended Afghanistan perma-war, ended Obamas Syria wars.....and the libertarians in here have endless tears about it, only because their TDS has made them dedicated Joe Biden ish posting fanbois. Pathetic. Yes, you are pathetic. Trump surrendered the country. Biden botched the withdrawal. Those are facts. Try and embrace some from time to time, whacko.
August 4, 20232 yr 18 hours ago, VanHammersly said: He also defends domestic terrorists regularly. It's almost like there's a pattern there. At minimum he obviously supports terrorism.
August 4, 20232 yr 22 hours ago, VanHammersly said: Are you serious? He should have not released them until we were out of the country. How could he have done that?? The Taliban took over the country before we left.
August 4, 20232 yr 20 hours ago, VanHammersly said: He also defends domestic terrorists regularly. It's almost like there's a pattern there. Oh regularly huh? Show me those posts. Pretty sure @Dave Mossis your local terrorist sympathizer, not me. I voted for the guy who wiped Obamas ISIS off the map. 21 hours ago, VanHammersly said: In Mike's tiny inbred mind, him arguing that Biden is the worst President in history for getting out of Afghanistan doesn't mean he wants us to still be in Afghanistan but us arguing that Trump completely botched the negotiations does. It makes no sense but, again, he's really stupid. This is word salad and my position on this is crystal clear to any native english speaker Trump set the table for Biden, who then ignored the entire issue for 15 months before trying to rush through it. That obviously failed and then he tried to blame Trump. Since you all are just aching for Trump hate you ate it up
August 4, 20232 yr 20 hours ago, Tnt4philly said: And he doesn’t think our troops should get combat pay while protecting American citizens in a country at war. Wait until he finds out troops got combat pay while in Kuwait during OIF. The horror. I never said they shouldn't get the pay, Im wondering why theyre getting it now and didnt have it in all this time. Can you explain why? Since you guys are so knowledgeable about how many of our troops we have there and what they are or arent doing (even though no one can tell me, Ill take your word for it)
August 4, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Oh regularly huh? Show me those posts. right here, when you went full Illhan Omar, "some people did something" On 8/3/2023 at 10:37 AM, Mike31mt said: The mind of a TDSer, where some Americans rioting at the capitol is far scarier than actual terrorists who commit actual terrorist acts. Which one of you psychopaths called January 6th that the worst thing since 9/11? I cant remember because youre all equally insane and capable of making such an absurd point.
August 4, 20232 yr 21 hours ago, DiPros said: It was such a bad agreement. But we controlled the country. That part just totally false. How do you control a country while withdrawing troops? It's so baffling to me, I wish Mike would explain. I posted a time line of what was happening in 2020 while the baffoon was still in charge. Here's a quote: We’re dealing very well with the Taliban. They’re very tough, they’re very smart, they’re very sharp. But, you know, it’s been 19 years, and even they are tired of fighting, in all fairness.” They were running scared alright. Youre dead wrong as usual, just emotional drivel detached from reality. Biden, because he was lazy and too stupid to have forethought, just ate up all bad intelligence that said that the Afghanistan govt would be able to stand on its own. Surprise! It didnt even last a week. Ooops! Biden wanted credit for ending Afghanistan without doing literally any work at all. And when his clear lack of planning blew up in his face and embarrassed us internationally, all he offered up was excused and blame for his predecessor. I'm sure if you took over a job from someone else and failed miserably, your boss would totally buy the excuse that it was all the guy who did the job 16 months ago. Total rubbish
August 4, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: right here, when you went full Illhan Omar, "some people did something" Lolllll
August 4, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: I never said they shouldn't get the pay, Im wondering why theyre getting it now and didnt have it in all this time. Can you explain why? Since you guys are so knowledgeable about how many of our troops we have there and what they are or arent doing (even though no one can tell me, Ill take your word for it) This is a weird way of asking a message board what the word "hazard" means. You could have just Googled it, Osama.
August 4, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: I never said they shouldn't get the pay, Im wondering why theyre getting it now and didnt have it in all this time. Can you explain why? Since you guys are so knowledgeable about how many of our troops we have there and what they are or arent doing (even though no one can tell me, Ill take your word for it) They should've been receiving it all along, yes. And since the approval was retroactive, they actually will get back pay for their service since the embassy was re-opened.
August 4, 20232 yr Saying something is the worst thing since X means that X was still worse. That's literally what it means.
August 4, 20232 yr Just now, we_gotta_believe said: They should've been receiving it all along, yes. And since the approval was retroactive, they actually will get back pay for their service since the embassy was re-opened. Usually the government is so quick and efficient in these matters. This needs to be looked into.
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