D-Shiznit Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Obviously the best case scenario is that Hurts becomes a franchise QB and we are free to spend the capital building a team around him. I would also prefer if he does enough to keep the job an extra year so we don't have to overdraft a QB from a weak class next year, would much rather wait for 2023 to go all in for DJ Uiagalelei. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleJoe8 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said: Obvious the best case scenario is that Hurts becomes a franchise QB and we are free to spend the capital building a team around him. I would also prefer if he does enough to keep the job an extra year so we don't have to overdraft a QB from a weak class next year, would much rather wait for 2023 to go all in for DJ Uiagalelei. Agreed. I'd be upset if we have to burn a couple firsts just to get a QB. Especially if they get one because they feel they need to, and not so much because they really like a guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_EaglesFan89 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 36 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said: Not really. If they're losing games while consistently scoring 24 or more points, that's a good indication that the defense is the obvious problem, and the offense is doing it's part. Yeah sure but what if Hurts looks average but is helped by the talent around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleJoe8 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: Yeah sure but what if Hurts looks average but is helped by the talent around him. I’m sure that all gets taken into consideration. Fans may have a tendency to be more black and white in how they see players, but I’m sure the FO and coaching staffs take a lot more nuance into consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CouchKing Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Last year, the OLine was awful. Every play was like watching a jailbreak. If the OLine recovers this year, Hurts has a chance of keeping the job another year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XoqTionR Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 On 4/30/2021 at 9:22 PM, Bwestbrook36 said: That may be true but, chicago is where QBs go to die for sure I wanted eagles to grab Kellen Mond. Think eagles would have grabbed him that round if vikings wouldn't have. I do like the undrafted QB from Wake Forrest eagles picked up though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNOORDA Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 16 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: Absolutely. But what if the offense is pretty good, the defense is bad and this team ends up being bad? That's a difficult one. That is exactly what we can expect. And sadly, we can hope for. A young rebuilding offense and new coaching. They need to build chemistry. next year we have plenty of draft capital to address the secondary next year plus i fully expect some moves are coming for another cb/lb/s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CouchKing Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 I looked at Hurts’ college stats. He was more accurate in college. Maybe he has a good year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 17 hours ago, XoqTionR said: I wanted eagles to grab Kellen Mond. Think eagles would have grabbed him that round if vikings wouldn't have. I do like the undrafted QB from Wake Forrest eagles picked up though. Newman will potentially be a very solid backup after this year. His style is much closer to Jalen’s then Concrete Shoes Flacco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_EaglesFan89 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 8 hours ago, Outlaw said: Newman will potentially be a very solid backup after this year. His style is much closer to Jalen’s then Concrete Shoes Flacco. I've not seen a lot of him, only YouTube highlights, but I have liked what I've seen. I think he's got a good arm, the confidence to throw in to tight windows and he could develop in to a nice back up. We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XoqTionR Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 10 hours ago, Outlaw said: Newman will potentially be a very solid backup after this year. His style is much closer to Jalen’s then Concrete Shoes Flacco. I can't stand Flacco. I also think newman is a solid pickup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CouchKing Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 I am okay with Flacco for now. I’d like a more mobile QB with upside potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_EaglesFan89 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 1 hour ago, CouchKing said: I am okay with Flacco for now. I’d like a more mobile QB with upside potential. I just don't get the signing. He doesn't fit the same style as Hurts so if he comes in they need to change their entire offense. And he's cost roughly $3.5M against the cap for a guy who's really not that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: I just don't get the signing. He doesn't fit the same style as Hurts so if he comes in they need to change their entire offense. And he's cost roughly $3.5M against the cap for a guy who's really not that good. I suspect that they will try to tone down the "one read and run" stuff and try to make Hurts into a more traditional QB. We won't win consistently playing his typical style. It's not sustainable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_EaglesFan89 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 12 minutes ago, E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles said: I suspect that they will try to tone down the "one read and run" stuff and try to make Hurts into a more traditional QB. We won't win consistently playing his typical style. It's not sustainable. Oh they have to do that. They have to try and coach him up, get him to stay in the pocket more and make plays in the pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CouchKing Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 I see Flacco as an emergency QB and senior advisor in the QB room. Nice idea, but I’d prefer a real prospect. Looks to me that we were wasting time with Nate Sudfeld. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike030270 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 1 minute ago, CouchKing said: I see Flacco as an emergency QB and senior advisor in the QB room. Nice idea, but I’d prefer a real prospect. Looks to me that we were wasting time with Nate Sudfeld. Sudfeld is with the 49ers now. Signed with them April 7th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleJoe8 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, Mike030270 said: Sudfeld is with the 49ers now. Signed with them April 7th Absolutely criminal we let an unstoppable backup QB get away. Howie needs fired!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike030270 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said: Absolutely criminal we let an unstoppable backup QB get away. Howie needs fired!! If that gets him fired then I'm all for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleJoe8 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Just now, Mike030270 said: If that gets him fired then I'm all for it Hell, me too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portyansky Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 22 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: I just don't get the signing. He doesn't fit the same style as Hurts so if he comes in they need to change their entire offense. And he's cost roughly $3.5M against the cap for a guy who's really not that good. He is here to mentor Hurts. Help him in the film room etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 2 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: Oh they have to do that. They have to try and coach him up, get him to stay in the pocket more and make plays in the pocket. Right. That brings his style a little closer to Flacco, so the offense shouldn't have to adjust much WHEN he gets hurt playing hero ball. Flacco is solid enough to win games. If he was the starter, I would be fine with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCTANK Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Mike030270 said: Sudfeld is with the 49ers now. Signed with them April 7th this is great news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_EaglesFan89 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles said: Right. That brings his style a little closer to Flacco, so the offense shouldn't have to adjust much WHEN he gets hurt playing hero ball. Flacco is solid enough to win games. If he was the starter, I would be fine with it. But it doesn't really does it... You aren't going to run an offense the same with Hurts as you would with Flacco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: But it doesn't really does it... You aren't going to run an offense the same with Hurts as you would with Flacco. No kidding?! Each offense has some specific actions and systems tied to individual QBs. Each of them have their own packages. It's always been that way and always will be that way. It's no different that the change in offense from Wentz to Foles (or any other QB change). My point is...I sure hope the Eagles certainly will build an offense that attempts to tone down Hurts' running tendency and try to make him work from a safer, more controlled environment...where most QBs work best. If the Eagles are only going to build a running QB offense that has Hurts running college options and naked sweeps, he will be done for the season soon after it starts (and if they can't adjust after, that makes Flacco a stupid signing). I doubt that happens though. I'd bet right now that they are working with Hurts to stay in the pocket, go through progressions, and protect himself...you know, standard QB stuff...the stuff Flacco (and every other successful QB) does already. We will find out soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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