5 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Ehhh.  Just hate the current structure of Lowie and last choice Siriani.   But hey.  He has a plan.  

Hey not just any plan. He will have sim, cysts systems in place!

 

 

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the Jaguars have now spent $1.4 billion, that's BILLION, in free agency since 2011 ...by far the most $$$ in the NFL they've lost nearly 75% of their games in that span ...by far the worst % in the NFL they are now on their 5th head coach since 2011

18 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Detter yet, what evidence do you have that Siriani was a better choice? 

His choice of assistant coaches.

Wonder when Eagles make their first signing.  Probably dependent on when they trade Ertz to clear up more space. 

 

 

I will guess they make their first signing on Sunday. 

49 minutes ago, greend said:

Fun, why are you so Fing cranky all the time?

Pot calling the kettle black. 

2 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Wonder when Eagles make their first signing.  Probably dependent on when they trade Ertz to clear up more space. 

 

 

I will guess they make their first signing on Sunday. 

Howie insists we wont release Ertz...

 

I think they all know hes lying lol

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Josh McDaniels was the guy that made Tim Tebow a first round draft pick.  Josh McDaniels is the guy that backed out of his job.   Josh McDaniels is the worst possible option to point to if you want Lowie to back off.  Frankly, I trust Lowie more than McDaniels, at least Lowie are in this for the long haul.  McDaniels can screw up an organization and then flee like a cockroach.

I wish Howie would flee already. The longer he stays employed the longer it'll probably take to fix his mess

At this point just hold onto Ertz. Maybe he has a bounce back year and you can look to move him at the deadline (there were reports last season they were going to move him, then he got hurt and that moron Howie put him on IR so they couldn't trade him). If you can't move him at the deadline, let him play out his contract and take the comp pick when he leaves. Keeping him also would make it extremely unlikely they take Pitts. 

7 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

At this point just hold onto Ertz. Maybe he has a bounce back year and you can look to move him at the deadline (there were reports last season they were going to move him, then he got hurt and that moron Howie put him on IR so they couldn't trade him). If you can't move him at the deadline, let him play out his contract and take the comp pick when he leaves. Keeping him also would make it extremely unlikely they take Pitts. 

I think they save too much by cutting him though don't they?

10 minutes ago, St0nedsk8er said:

Howie insists we wont release Ertz...

 

I think they all know hes lying lol

I think you release Ertz only if you get a worthwhile FA to agree to come here and need the money. Otherwise, just keep him here if you aren't getting what you want in a trade

 

7 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

At this point just hold onto Ertz. Maybe he has a bounce back year and you can look to move him at the deadline (there were reports last season they were going to move him, then he got hurt and that moron Howie put him on IR so they couldn't trade him). If you can't move him at the deadline, let him play out his contract and take the comp pick when he leaves. Keeping him also would make it extremely unlikely they take Pitts. 

Eagles offense has been stale ever since Ertz/Goedert took the field together. I know there are many contributing factors but I would like to see them run less 2 TE sets.

 

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Ertz betting on himself cause the contract he would get after this year wouldn’t be of his liking gm or that great. I wouldn’t be surprised if this drags out for a while. If the eagles are under the cap no rush to deal him. With the tight end market bare now you might see a team get more involved for a tight end especially with the tight end class in the draft supposedly not great 

 

20 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

At this point just hold onto Ertz. Maybe he has a bounce back year and you can look to move him at the deadline (there were reports last season they were going to move him, then he got hurt and that moron Howie put him on IR so they couldn't trade him). If you can't move him at the deadline, let him play out his contract and take the comp pick when he leaves. Keeping him also would make it extremely unlikely they take Pitts. 

He'll likely take another year off if he stays

9 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Not sure about that HOF mention

16 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Either,

A) Ertz didn’t put in any effort last season and why the F would anyone want him, or

B). Ertz tried hard last season and is totally shot and same question as above 

6 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

He'll likely take another year off if he stays

Not sure about that HOF mention

Eh, considering he'll be playing out a contract year, I'd be shocked if he took another year off. I'd think he'd try and play as hard as he can (maybe even break a tackle) to try and earn one last big contract somewhere else. 

 

8 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

He'll likely take another year off if he stays

Not sure about that HOF mention

Not sure ertz can afford it at his age. He takes a year off again then he gets to FA a year older and around the league might just think he’s declined to the point where he’s not worth giving him a good contract. 

1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

So you care about the fact that he backed out of the Indy job?  That means that much to you?    Seriously?  Character concerns? 

 

That's the evidence that you have that he's still the same coach he was in Denver?  You know it's the real world.  Players and coaches do ish like that all the time.  Doesn't make him a bad coach.  You think I would be a better candidate than him?  Since I never did that, does that make me a better coach?

 

1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Did I say that?  Is this the real world we are talking about?  NO!!!  

 

You keep going to the "no evidence that he has improved as a coach since Denver".  Uhh....what evidence do you have that he hasn't?  Better yet, what evidence do you have that Siriani was a better choice?  I know, I know.  JMcD backed out on Indy....

I think we wait and see how the FA period and draft goes.  Once Pitts is off the board, Ertz's value should go up.  

Yes, you did.

 

 

I don't need to provide evidence that he's gotten better.  The burden of proof lies with you in this case.  I have evidence of what he has done as a coach.  It was bad.  But, if you want to bring that in, and hope that he's gotten better... why not just hire any failed coach and go with him on the same basis... we certainly can't use actual evidence of failure to discount someone, because they 'might have improved', even if there's no evidence of said improvement.  This is the hollowest argument I've seen you make.   To quote you:  Do better.   

 

Frankly, the fact that your response to a direct request for evidence of what McDaniels would bring to the table that you are so excited about him that 2 months later, all you can say is "you don't have evidence that he hasn't gotten better" is pathetic.  That's not how you build the case for anything. 

 

Sirianni has built an offense around 3 different QBs in the last 3 years.  He's adjusted, he's changed, he's adapted.  McDaniels has been with Belicheat and CryBrady for the last 10 years since Denver.   Did he develop a QB behind Brady?   Jimmy G?   Nah.   Not exactly a good result.  I'll pass.  

I am not sold on Sirianni, but I will reserve judgement until I see what he does.  I've seen what McDaniels did.  So, in this case, I'd rather the unknown to the known.

My condolences @eagle45

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

What does the passage of time have to do with the character of the individual?  It was just 3 years ago he screwed over a different NFL franchise... fortunately for them, they landed Frank Reich instead.  

What evidence do we have that McDaniels has grown from his failure in Denver?    Oh, the evidence is that he then screwed over the Colts before actually running their roster into the ground.   That's progress. 

Yes they can.  The passage of time is no guaranteed of improvement from McDaniels.  

Are you the same person that you were a decade ago?  I am not.  Things change and we learn as we age, or hopefully we do.  Most of us learn from our failures.  I was a lot better leader when I retired than when I got my first management job.  

Three years ago, McDaniel was probably thinking he was the heir apparent to Belichek, who was presumed to be on the cusp of retiring.  Now it looks like he will coach for at least two more years and his son Stephen continues to progress at a Patriot defensive coach, Bill’s area of expertise.  Plus, BB has a defensive protégée on the staff so maybe McDaniels realizes he may not be the heir apparent after all.  

I am not saying he is or isn’t better than a decade ago and the hiring assistants only to not take the Colts job leaves me with a bad aftertaste, but isn’t it the Judo/Christian ( and frankly, most other belief systems) expectation that we grow in character with the passage of time.  

50 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I wish Howie would flee already. The longer he stays employed the longer it'll probably take to fix his mess

I don't disagree.  But bringing in someone else who sucks to wrestle away power from Howie only to have Howie reinstated again when that blows up means it will take even longer than that.

21 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Either,

A) Ertz didn’t put in any effort last season and why the F would anyone want him, or

B). Ertz tried hard last season and is totally shot and same question as above 

 

 

If option A teams will always take on talent if they believe they are good enough with the vied that their organization and coaching staff will be able to get the most out of him. And it's not as if he has been a very high character player outside of his contract dispute that lead to a very disappointing season. 

46 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

If Ertz is willing to play out his contract, that gives the Eagles the option of hanging onto him if the deal offered isn’t good.  Chance that between now and the trade deadline an injury results in a higher offer and if not a comp pick next year.