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1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

Sirianni says you're wrong.

That settles it. 

Wait, I’m going to challenge him to a game of Rock Paper Scissors to determine who is right once and for all. And if he wins, I’ll say best of three, forever earning his respect as a competitor. 

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Just now, ManuManu said:

That settles it. 

Wait, I’m going to challenge him to a game of Rock Paper Scissors to determine who is right once and for all. And if he wins, I’ll say best of three, forever earning his respect as a competitor. 

You have to play more than 3. 

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22 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Sirianni says you're wrong.

Also, you dont need to be competitive to watch a Kobe or Jordan interview. So you  may have watched those and still have no idea what it is to be competitive by nature. Youre pretty much telling us you are not.

Lol

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

you couldnt be more wrong.

Wrong, I could if I tried. Im competitive 

very interesting prospect I just read about on TDN

DL MILTON WILLIAMS, LOUISIANA TECH

Final Ranking: No. 38 overall

The Skinny: I can't lie... this is a three-year projection grade, much like my evaluation of Miami DL Gregory Rousseau. Expecting Williams to enter into a defensive line rotation and command a role that you'd expect with where I have him ranked is probably unrealistic, but he is oozing with potential as a penetration defender. Williams' athletic profile has some good company according to Mockdraftable.com, too. His top three athletic comparisons based on his size and athletic testing?

Aaron Donald (Uh, yeah)

Taven Bryan (Former first-round pick)

Geno Atkins (75.5 career sacks)

Williams is a bit of a tweener and he doesn't have great length on his frame, but he played a lot of gap control and read-react reps up front for Louisiana Tech. That's not a great use of an athletic skill set that logged just one test below the 90th percentile at his Pro Day this spring.

10-Yard Split: 93rd percentile

20-Yard Split: 94 percentile

40-Yard Dash: 99th percentile

Vertical Jump: 99th percentile

Broad Jump: 99th percentile

3-cone Drill: 99th percentile

20-Yard Shuttle: 93rd percentile

Bench Press: 87 percentile

Call me crazy, but I'll bet on this skill set every single year. There's big-time potential in Williams' game and I'm hoping he lands somewhere that can coach it out of him. 

2 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

Howie said in the PC this week that Seumalo gives them flexibility.  It could be a C or G drafted; if the Eagles had Humphrey on the board at #37 they might pick him, but the same holds true for Wyatt Davis — slide Seumalo to C and Davis becomes your LG of the future.

Wyatt Davis, and to a lesser extent Alex Leatherwood are far better prospects than Humphrey. I would be thrilled if they ended up with Davis at 37. He is already a beast but there is still a lot of potential with him that I imagine Stoutland could unlock. Personally I wouldn't even consider Humphrey at 37.

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

very interesting prospect I just read about on TDN

DL MILTON WILLIAMS, LOUISIANA TECH

Final Ranking: No. 38 overall

The Skinny: I can't lie... this is a three-year projection grade, much like my evaluation of Miami DL Gregory Rousseau. Expecting Williams to enter into a defensive line rotation and command a role that you'd expect with where I have him ranked is probably unrealistic, but he is oozing with potential as a penetration defender. Williams' athletic profile has some good company according to Mockdraftable.com, too. His top three athletic comparisons based on his size and athletic testing?

Aaron Donald (Uh, yeah)

Taven Bryan (Former first-round pick)

Geno Atkins (75.5 career sacks)

Williams is a bit of a tweener and he doesn't have great length on his frame, but he played a lot of gap control and read-react reps up front for Louisiana Tech. That's not a great use of an athletic skill set that logged just one test below the 90th percentile at his Pro Day this spring.

10-Yard Split: 93rd percentile

20-Yard Split: 94 percentile

40-Yard Dash: 99th percentile

Vertical Jump: 99th percentile

Broad Jump: 99th percentile

3-cone Drill: 99th percentile

20-Yard Shuttle: 93rd percentile

Bench Press: 87 percentile

Call me crazy, but I'll bet on this skill set every single year. There's big-time potential in Williams' game and I'm hoping he lands somewhere that can coach it out of him. 

Would love a DT somewhere in the 3rd-4th round.  Not sure he falls that far.  

38 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Sirianni says you're wrong.

Also, you dont need to be competitive to watch a Kobe or Jordan interview. So you  may have watched those and still have no idea what it is to be competitive by nature. Youre pretty much telling us you are not.

Yep, I'm with you one thousand percent on this. Michael Jordan lost a ping pong game to Christian Laettner during a dream team training camp and supposedly practiced for hours over the next couple of days just so that he could beat him. Obviously he is an extreme case, but you can find out real quick with ''silly little things'' like r, p, s's how competitive someone is. A highly competitive person will get after it right away with something as mundane as trying to predict what color the next car is that drives by and get mad if they lose.

10 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

Yep, I'm with you one thousand percent on this. Michael Jordan lost a ping pong game to Christian Laettner during a dream team training camp and supposedly practiced for hours over the next couple of days just so that he could beat him. Obviously he is an extreme case, but you can find out real quick with ''silly little things'' like r, p, s's how competitive someone is. A highly competitive person will get after it right away with something as mundane as trying to predict what color the next car is that drives by and get mad if they lose.

What you’re describing is an insane person, and that’s something scouts would have picked up on months beforehand. 

13 minutes ago, hputenis said:

Would love a DT somewhere in the 3rd-4th round.  Not sure he falls that far.  

Yup like the ucla kid too

14 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

Yep, I'm with you one thousand percent on this. Michael Jordan lost a ping pong game to Christian Laettner during a dream team training camp and supposedly practiced for hours over the next couple of days just so that he could beat him. Obviously he is an extreme case, but you can find out real quick with ''silly little things'' like r, p, s's how competitive someone is. A highly competitive person will get after it right away with something as mundane as trying to predict what color the next car is that drives by and get mad if they lose.

yep.

I understand to an extent why this method is being criticized. A lot of people cant comprehend this level of competitiveness. But with that lack of understanding, they are criticizing for the wrong reasons. Its not that you wont get a player's competitive juices flowing with a childs game of chance. You will.

But it may narrow the field a bit too much. 

You might find a lot of players with a requisite amount of competitiveness to play in the league, while they fall short of Jordan level competitiveness. Theres a reason why hes an all time great. You arent going to find numerous like him in every draft.

While we heard some teams today have about 150 players with draftable grades I wonder if our list is about 3. 

The funny thing is that through the days of complaining and numerous people who have said RPS is dumb, no one has actually presented a better method for determining competitiveness over video chat. People just want to complain about a coach who they havent even seen coach for a minute yet. Its so stupid...

11 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

yep.

I understand to an extent why this method is being criticized. A lot of people cant comprehend this level of competitiveness. But with that lack of understanding, they are criticizing for the wrong reasons. Its not that you wont get a player's competitive juices flowing with a childs game of chance. You will.

But it may narrow the field a bit too much. 

You might find a lot of players with a requisite amount of competitiveness to play in the league, while they fall short of Jordan level competitiveness. Theres a reason why hes an all time great. You arent going to find numerous like him in every draft.

While we heard some teams today have about 150 players with draftable grades I wonder if our list is about 3. 

The funny thing is that through the days of complaining and numerous people who have said RPS is dumb, no one has actually presented a better method for determining competitiveness over video chat. People just want to complain about a coach who they havent even seen coach for a minute yet. Its so stupid...

Battle rap. 

13 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Battle rap. 

Battle ship 

That’s Elijah, not Rondale. 

7 hours ago, Swoop said:

I think so. Doubtful that were hit as hard with injuries on the OL, but the OL is a major question mark (to me).

Brooks can no longer stay healthy. Lane is always dinged up. Kelce was hurt last year and is on his last legs. Mailata is still a question mark (though I have confidence). Dillard is coming off of an injury and is a question mark himself. Seumalo is probably the "safest" lineman and he's a fine guard, but nothing to go crazy over.

Even if he's depth this season (I feel he'd get major playing time either way), Mailata shows he can stick to either tackle position and Dillard pans out, the pick looks very good next season. You'd be able to think about life after the right side and Kelce, while having 4 young, good lineman and people like Driscoll, Herbig, etc as young depth.

Maybe I'm in the minority.

If the BPA is an OL, select him, Howie. 

The play at 5:38....my goodness. The speed at 7:01 sheesh. If Siriani is honest about calling plays take advantage of his players strengths I think we could see a breakout season for Reagor.

He 100% needs to work on his route running but it's easy to forget how dynamic he can be.  

Just like the O-Line...if Reagor, Watkins and Fulgham can develop that would be huge.

 

 

4 hours ago, Original Sin said:

I could live with a three Smith draft.  Devonta, Elerson and James. 

6 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

The play at 5:38....my goodness. The speed at 7:01 sheesh. If Siriani is honest about calling plays take advantage of his players strengths I think we could see a breakout season for Reagor.

He 100% needs to work on his route running but it's easy to forget how dynamic he can be.  

Just like the O-Line...if Reagor, Watkins and Fulgham can develop that would be huge.

 

 

Yep.  That’s why I was ok with the pick.  He never moved like that as a rookie.  

4 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Yep.  That’s why I was ok with the pick.  He never moved like that as a rookie.  

No he didn't.  When you watch those plays and then watch the PR against the Packers it looks like 2 completely different speeds.  If they can get that TCU speed out of him look out.

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Battle ship 

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1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

What you’re describing is an insane person, and that’s something scouts would have picked up on months beforehand. 

Nope, I'm describing the make up of one of the greatest athletes to have ever walked planet earth.

4 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

Nope, I'm describing the make up of one of the greatest athletes to have ever walked planet earth.

Obviously, but Jordan was nuts. And I’m confident that his competitiveness showed up on the scouting report. Maybe Rod Thorn wasn’t sure he was competitive though until he challenged him to Connect Four at a predraft workout. Then he was sold. 

I know I'm not Reagor's biggest fan so maybe I'm too harsh, but those plays don't impress me. The backyard football play is nice, but I'm not sure how it really applies to his NFL success. He just made way less athletic, future insurance salesmen look silly.

15 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Obviously, but Jordan was nuts. And I’m confident that his competitiveness showed up on the scouting report. Maybe Rod Thorn wasn’t sure he was competitive though until he challenged him to Connect Four at a predraft workout. Then he was sold. 

You do realize that teams had far less access to scouting players this year, and very little opportunity to meet with them one on one and ask them questions or get a sense for who they are. Anything sliver of information or impression they can get from a player is important. If you or others don't think they can learn anything about someone from paying that game with them, fine. The Eagles for example didn't think Dillard would fall to them in the draft so they had very little information on him in terms of his personality and make up and took him only based on traits and tape. We all know how that has worked out thus far. So  trashing the coach and making a joke out of him trying to find creative ways to get know prospects and get a sense for who they are is beyond asinine.