November 9, 20214 yr 37 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: We've all seen your posting history, Kz. Based on your track record, I'm pretty sure your genes could use some therapy.
November 9, 20214 yr 7 minutes ago, Procus said: Boy you showed me. Incidentally, that's one helluva medical practice you have there - imagine that, a young doctor having time during a Tuesday morning to argue with people on the EMB. I'll bet they're waiting in line to get treated by you! https://sharylattkisson.com/2021/09/read-cdc-changes-definition-of-vaccines-to-fit-covid-19-vaccine-limitations/ (READ) CDC changes definition of "vaccines" to fit Covid-19 vaccine limitations Dated: September 8, 2021 by Sharyl Attkisson 120 Comments The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) has carefully "evolved" the definition of vaccination to meet the declining ability of some of today's "vaccines," including the Covid-19 vaccines. The original definition, prior to 2015, stated that vaccines "prevent...disease." Starting in 2015, the definition was altered to say that vaccines "produce immunity," without necessarily preventing disease. After the Covid-19 vaccines were introduced, and it was discovered they do not necessarily "prevent disease" or "provide immunity," CDC altered the definition of vaccines again to say that they merely "produce protection." The discovery was publicized by Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Kentucky) who tweeted the definitions. Massie also included the archived links to the definitions: Instead of requiring medicine to meet the definition of "vaccine," it appears CDC has changed the definition of "vaccine" to accommodate what the medicine does. -------- (Waiting in 3, 2, 1 for some woke progressive on this thread to discount the change of definitions because the article was written by Sharyl Attkinson.) Lol I'm on paternity leave again ***** but nice try. And that definition is much more accurate now than it was before. No vaccine in existence is 100% effective by itself. And no routine childhood vaccine is currently given with a booster before you try that route either. Is the polio vaccine not a vaccine? Measles? Meningococcal? Tetanus? Hepatitis B? HPV? Because they don't 100% prevent disease by themselves either. More nonsense "gotcha" moments from idiots who clearly don't know anything about viruses or vaccines.
November 9, 20214 yr 15 minutes ago, Procus said: Boy you showed me. Incidentally, that's one helluva medical practice you have there - imagine that, a young doctor having time during a Tuesday morning to argue with people on the EMB. I'll bet they're waiting in line to get treated by you! https://sharylattkisson.com/2021/09/read-cdc-changes-definition-of-vaccines-to-fit-covid-19-vaccine-limitations/ (READ) CDC changes definition of "vaccines" to fit Covid-19 vaccine limitations Dated: September 8, 2021 by Sharyl Attkisson 120 Comments The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) has carefully "evolved" the definition of vaccination to meet the declining ability of some of today's "vaccines," including the Covid-19 vaccines. The original definition, prior to 2015, stated that vaccines "prevent...disease." Starting in 2015, the definition was altered to say that vaccines "produce immunity," without necessarily preventing disease. After the Covid-19 vaccines were introduced, and it was discovered they do not necessarily "prevent disease" or "provide immunity," CDC altered the definition of vaccines again to say that they merely "produce protection." The discovery was publicized by Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Kentucky) who tweeted the definitions. Massie also included the archived links to the definitions: Instead of requiring medicine to meet the definition of "vaccine," it appears CDC has changed the definition of "vaccine" to accommodate what the medicine does. -------- (Waiting in 3, 2, 1 for some woke progressive on this thread to discount the change of definitions because the article was written by Sharyl Attkinson.) You just took the time to write out a research paper.
November 9, 20214 yr Our friend Procus here is a clear example of what happens when you let the most uneducated segments of our society have unfettered access to the internet. Instead of becoming more informed and more intelligent, they become misinformed and somehow even dumber than they were before.
November 9, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, DEagle7 said: Is the polio vaccine not a vaccine? Measles? Meningococcal? Tetanus? Hepatitis B? HPV? Because they don't 100% prevent disease by themselves either. More nonsense "gotcha" moments from idiots who clearly don't know anything about viruses or vaccines. First off - congrats on the baby. I remember now on the paternity leave. Secondly, we have a saying - you can't kid a kidder. You and I both know that the Covid jabs are much much less effective than the polio, measles, smallpox vaccines among others at preventing transmission and contraction of disease - and it's not even close. We just don't have polio, smallpox and to a large extent, measles outbreaks anymore and you know it. When you know vaccinated people who died from Covid, it hits home. The definitions evolved to fit the current environment.
November 9, 20214 yr 18 minutes ago, Procus said: (Waiting in 3, 2, 1 for some woke progressive on this thread to discount the change of definitions because the article was written by Sharyl Attkinson.) On 11/2/2021 at 10:36 PM, Procus said: One helluva resource you have there. He seems just wonderful! https://christopherrufo.com/ I’m Christopher F. Rufo. I’m a writer, filmmaker, and researcher. I document the phenomena of critical race theory, homelessness, poverty, and other afflictions.
November 9, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said: Our friend Procus here is a clear example of what happens when you let the most uneducated segments of our society have unfettered access to the internet. Instead of becoming more informed and more intelligent, they become misinformed and somehow even dumber than they were before. Sonny, I have more degrees - fancy degrees - locked in the closet than you'll ever come close to getting. Over educated is much more accurate. It's a joke that you think you're more educated or smarter than me. You have zero clue about who I am.
November 9, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, Procus said: Sonny, I have more degrees - fancy degrees - locked in the closet than you'll ever come close to getting. Over educated is much more accurate. It's a joke that you think you're more educated or smarter than me. You have zero clue about who I am. Aren't you a lawyer?
November 9, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, Procus said: Sonny, I have more degrees - fancy degrees - locked in the closet than you'll ever come close to getting. Over educated is much more accurate. It's a joke that you think you're more educated or smarter than me. You have zero clue about who I am. Oh you've given us plenty of clues, Medina Spirit. And your degrees in animal husbandry and horse deworming are very impressive.
November 9, 20214 yr 14 minutes ago, Procus said: First off - congrats on the baby. I remember now on the paternity leave. Secondly, we have a saying - you can't kid a kidder. You and I both know that the Covid jabs are much much less effective than the polio, measles, smallpox vaccines among others at preventing transmission and contraction of disease - and it's not even close. We just don't have polio, smallpox and to a large extent, measles outbreaks anymore and you know it. When you know vaccinated people who died from Covid, it hits home. The definitions evolved to fit the current environment. It literally took decades to reach this point on those diseases. Guess what the word "novel" means when referring to a novel pathogen...
November 9, 20214 yr 5 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Aren't you a lawyer? I hear Trump's legal team has some openings. Sounds like he'd be a perfect fit among that bunch.
November 9, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, Procus said: First off - congrats on the baby. I remember now on the paternity leave. Secondly, we have a saying - you can't kid a kidder. You and I both know that the Covid jabs are much much less effective than the polio, measles, smallpox vaccines among others at preventing transmission and contraction of disease - and it's not even close. We just don't have polio, smallpox and to a large extent, measles outbreaks anymore and you know it. When you know vaccinated people who died from Covid, it hits home. The definitions evolved to fit the current environment. Because we reached herd immunity for those diseases. The first polio vaccines appeared in the early 1800s. Salk's vaccine was invented in 1953. The WHO announced a worldwide initiative to eradicate smallpox in 1959. It was announced as eradicated in 1980. Fun fact since you seem to love anecdotal evidence: the mother of the last recorded person to die of smallpox, Janet Parker, caught smallpox despite being vaccinated. COVID-19 originated *checks notes* under 2 years ago.
November 9, 20214 yr 35 minutes ago, Procus said: First off - congrats on the baby. I remember now on the paternity leave. Secondly, we have a saying - you can't kid a kidder. You and I both know that the Covid jabs are much much less effective than the polio, measles, smallpox vaccines among others at preventing transmission and contraction of disease - and it's not even close. We just don't have polio, smallpox and to a large extent, measles outbreaks anymore and you know it. When you know vaccinated people who died from Covid, it hits home. The definitions evolved to fit the current environment. the CDC has been cautioning people that getting the vaccine at this stage does not mean 100% protection. this is not new when it comes to vaccines, because as many have stated and @DEagle7 just reaffirmed NO VACCINE IN THE HISTORY OF MEDICINE HAS BEEN 100% EFFECTIVE. and neither Polio nor any other virus has been eradicated on a timeline less than decades. the Covid jabs are VERY effective at reducing severe illness and death. and the best study to date I've seen on how effective the vaccines are at preventing transmission (and reducing DOES mean preventing, as you don't need to prevent 100% to be preventative) is the one posted earlier: the reason this one is more encouraging to me than others is specifically the household transmission data. there are so many variables to try and correct for when trying to compare transmission rates across populations and nations that it becomes very difficult to have confidence, but a collection of data that shows how transmissable within households COVID is in situations where none, some, or all household members are vaccinated is a MUCH more reliable approach because the situation is much more controlled. COVID vaccines work. They prevent COVID deaths. They prevent the length and severity of COVID infection. And they appear to reduce transmission of COVID among households.
November 9, 20214 yr 21 minutes ago, Procus said: Sonny, I have more degrees - fancy degrees - locked in the closet than you'll ever come close to getting. Over educated is much more accurate. It's a joke that you think you're more educated or smarter than me. You have zero clue about who I am. A **** on a message board who is consistently wrong. Other than that nobody cares.
November 9, 20214 yr https://nypost.com/2021/11/09/brothel-offers-vaccinations-and-free-sexual-session-in-bold-incentive-program/ Genius
November 9, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, vikas83 said: https://nypost.com/2021/11/09/brothel-offers-vaccinations-and-free-sexual-session-in-bold-incentive-program/ Genius a jab for a jab!
November 9, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, Ipiggles said: https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-flies-haitian-migrants-home-in-bid-to-manage-del-rio-border-crisis-11632167064 "Welcomed to America" is simply not true. But whatever. The border issue has become a big one for Biden. The guy has never espoused an open-border policy, but for certain many migrants trying to get into the US thought his election would change something. Wonder if maybe it was the right wing constantly claiming he was for open-borders, because I guess there's no daylight between an intentionally cruel and inhumane border policy and open borders. But I digress. Biden has increasingly ratcheted up the tactics of preventing and discouraging border jumping. The number of people appearing at the border is at levels not seen in decades, and huge numbers are being deported or turned back. That still leaves large numbers of people with asylum claims to get through though, and the asylum system has been starved of support so the processing will take a long time. As with most situations it's way oversimplified by morons like Kirk. The reductionist approach encouraged by these simpletons shouldn't be embraced, it should be rejected.
November 9, 20214 yr 57 minutes ago, Gannan said: So much to unpack here... This is why we can't have nice things.
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