December 30, 20213 yr Biden admin touts $137M deal for COVID test strip factory the company says it will take 3 years to build Who owns the company and how many tax dollars are being passed under the table?
December 30, 20213 yr 4 minutes ago, lynched1 said: Biden admin touts $137M deal for COVID test strip factory the company says it will take 3 years to build Who owns the company and how many tax dollars are being passed under the table? MilliporeSigma is a subsidiary of German company Merck
December 30, 20213 yr 13 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: Didn’t realize it was your night on call. Sorry, pal Eh it's fine. Busy in the winter time but no big deal. Just can't believe the stuff people page the emergency line for sometimes. "Her eye has been crusty for 2 weeks! What should I do?" **** it's 9 PM WTF do you want me to do about it now? Grow up and call when the office is open.
December 30, 20213 yr Where'd the flu go? CDC Withdraws Use of PCR Test for COVID and Finally Admits the Test Can Not Differentiate Between the Flu and COVID Virus There it is! Dumb***es 7 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: MilliporeSigma is a subsidiary of German company Merck Sounds about right
December 30, 20213 yr 2 hours ago, Dave Moss said: I’m sure there’s some videos on youtube you could watch to do your own research on vaccines. My wife and I are vaccinated, moron. Not going to vaccinate my two school age children who have already had Covid and recovered in less than a week.
December 30, 20213 yr 10 minutes ago, lynched1 said: Where'd the flu go? CDC Withdraws Use of PCR Test for COVID and Finally Admits the Test Can Not Differentiate Between the Flu and COVID Virus There it is! Dumb***es This was shown to be BS months ago. This is what happens when you get your news from Facebook and all your friends and family are idiots.
December 30, 20213 yr 2 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: This was shown to be BS months ago. This is what happens when you get your news from Facebook and all your friends and family are idiots. Yah, the flu just magically disappeared once Covid hit the scene. And you think people need to blindly trust you because you're a doctor.
December 30, 20213 yr 7 minutes ago, Outlaw said: My wife and I are vaccinated, moron. Not going to vaccinate my two school age children who have already had Covid and recovered in less than a week.
December 30, 20213 yr 10 minutes ago, Procus said: Yah, the flu just magically disappeared once Covid hit the scene. And you think people need to blindly trust you because you're a doctor. I've diagnosed 3 cases this week already. The flu didn't "disappear". And there's absolutely no evidence that flu cases are causing false positives for COVID tests. That's not how PCR tests work. They amplify virus specific DNA sequences. Like a lock and key but much MUCH more specific. No COVID DNA, no annealing of the primer sequence, no amplification. Simple as that. Not to mention that a lot of places offer multiplex assays for COVID, Flu A/B, and even some with RSV now. Hard to argue for cross contamination when there's tests that specifically test for both viruses on the same swab.
December 30, 20213 yr 51 minutes ago, lynched1 said: Where'd the flu go? CDC Withdraws Use of PCR Test for COVID and Finally Admits the Test Can Not Differentiate Between the Flu and COVID Virus There it is! Dumb***es Sounds about right lololol no that's not what happened. The original PRC test for COVID could ONLY test for COVID. So if a physician wanted to test a patient for COVID AND Influenza, they'd have to do separate swabs which would result in 2 lab runs. There are now multiplex assays that can test for COVID and Influenza A&B on the same swab. The CDC is recommending the use of the multiplex assays as this obviously saves time and money as compared to having to do multiple swabs and multiple lab analysis. 5 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: I've diagnosed 3 cases this week already. The flu didn't "disappear". And there's absolutely no evidence that flu cases are causing false positives for COVID tests. That's not how PCR tests work. They amplify virus specific DNA sequences. Like a lock and key but much MUCH more specific. No COVID DNA, no annealing of the primer sequence, no amplification. Simple as that. Not to mention that a lot of places offer multiplex assays for COVID, Flu A/B, and even some with RSV now. Hard to argue for cross contamination when there's tests that specifically test for both viruses on the same swab. beat me to it.
December 30, 20213 yr 35 minutes ago, Procus said: Yah, the flu just magically disappeared once Covid hit the scene. And you think people need to blindly trust you because you're a doctor. The flu didn't disappear. There were certainly less cases as a result of people not being around each other as much during flu season and wearing masks, etc...
December 30, 20213 yr 2 hours ago, DEagle7 said: This was shown to be BS months ago. This is what happens when you get your news from Facebook and all your friends and family are idiots. This from an anonymous quack of questionable breeding on the unofficial message board of a professional football team. 😒 https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html "CDC encourages laboratories to consider adoption of a multiplexed method that can facilitate detection and differentiation of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses."
December 30, 20213 yr 8 hours ago, PoconoDon said: I agree, though it appears that what is deemed "safe" is not driven by objective scientific data which forms a standard, but by something else entirely. 8 hours ago, PoconoDon said: I agree, though it appears that what is deemed "safe" is not driven by objective scientific data which forms a standard, but by something else entirely. Yeah, by reality. Lab and trial science is the base but policy needs to account for how people will actually behave. Sustainable real behavior must be a key consideration along with risk of side effects when weighing final policy.
December 30, 20213 yr 9 hours ago, Joe Shades 73 said: Explain So... In the UK we report how many people in the country are in hospital with covid. And the numbers are starting to rise so of course that generates concern. But they are now saying roughly 3 in 10 of those are not being admitted with covid, they just test positive when being admitted for something else.
December 30, 20213 yr 31 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: So... In the UK we report how many people in the country are in hospital with covid. And the numbers are starting to rise so of course that generates concern. But they are now saying roughly 3 in 10 of those are not being admitted with covid, they just test positive when being admitted for something else. Mark Twain nailed it. Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics... COVID has been one huge example of this and it has happened everywhere and by all sides.
December 30, 20213 yr Just now, DrPhilly said: Mark Twain nailed it. Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics... COVID has been one huge example of this and it has happened everywhere and by all sides. Yeah couldn't agree more. Both sides of the argument invent and twist stats to further their point.
December 30, 20213 yr 57 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: So... In the UK we report how many people in the country are in hospital with covid. And the numbers are starting to rise so of course that generates concern. But they are now saying roughly 3 in 10 of those are not being admitted with covid, they just test positive when being admitted for something else. Yeah made a post( see below) a few hours ago about fauci on tv last night saying the same thing. And this is the thing we were told we were wrong about a few days ago. Fauci on TV just now saying what I said before, people with covid in the hospital but not there because of covid are still part of the official case counts. He goes on to say even things like a broken leg and then testing positive that gets reported as a covid posiitve case in the numbers reported every day even though covid had nothing to do with the reason for being hospitilized. This is one of the reasons we are seeing headlines saying hospitalizations of children with covid on the rise.
December 30, 20213 yr 25 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said: Yeah made a post( see below) a few hours ago about fauci on tv last night saying the same thing. And this is the thing we were told we were wrong about a few days ago. Fauci on TV just now saying what I said before, people with covid in the hospital but not there because of covid are still part of the official case counts. He goes on to say even things like a broken leg and then testing positive that gets reported as a covid posiitve case in the numbers reported every day even though covid had nothing to do with the reason for being hospitilized. This is one of the reasons we are seeing headlines saying hospitalizations of children with covid on the rise. And also in the UK, not sure what it is like in the US, we have reduced staffing numbers over the festive period. It is therefore harder to get discharged over Christmas and New Year so the numbers could come down pretty quickly once we get in to the new year.
December 30, 20213 yr First year in my considerable number of years on earth the I remember the flu taking a year off, but hey, that's just me.
December 30, 20213 yr 49 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said: Yeah made a post( see below) a few hours ago about fauci on tv last night saying the same thing. And this is the thing we were told we were wrong about a few days ago. Fauci on TV just now saying what I said before, people with covid in the hospital but not there because of covid are still part of the official case counts. He goes on to say even things like a broken leg and then testing positive that gets reported as a covid posiitve case in the numbers reported every day even though covid had nothing to do with the reason for being hospitilized. This is one of the reasons we are seeing headlines saying hospitalizations of children with covid on the rise. I saw a headline yesterday to the effect: "84 year old woman WITH Covid dies" - no mention in the article of the actual cause of death though.
December 30, 20213 yr 5 hours ago, lynched1 said: This from an anonymous quack of questionable breeding on the unofficial message board of a professional football team. 😒 https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html "CDC encourages laboratories to consider adoption of a multiplexed method that can facilitate detection and differentiation of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses." Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight. The original COVID test could ONLY test for COVID. If a physician wanted to test for COVID AND the flu, they’d have to do multiple swabs and send multiple samples to the lab to be run separately. The multiplex assays can test for BOTH COVID AND FLU on 1 swab. So instead of having to do multiple swabs and multiple lab analysis, it can be done on 1 swab. What part is confusing you?
December 30, 20213 yr 6 hours ago, lynched1 said: This from an anonymous quack of questionable breeding on the unofficial message board of a professional football team. 😒 https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html "CDC encourages laboratories to consider adoption of a multiplexed method that can facilitate detection and differentiation of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses." They're saying doctors should use multiplex assays that test for both flu and COVID since flu numbers are spiking again. Absolutely no part of that suggests that the original tests have cross reactivity. PCRs are like highschool level genetics at this point. It's laughable that you and @Procus are still struggling here. Sit the F down. Adults are talking.
December 30, 20213 yr 1 hour ago, Procus said: First year in my considerable number of years on earth the I remember the flu taking a year off, but hey, that's just me. Almost as if everyone quarantining, wearing masks and distancing impacts a respiratory virus. Shocking stuff.
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