2 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Almost as if everyone quarantining, wearing masks and distancing impacts a respiratory virus. Shocking stuff. 

There must be ivermectin in the air, maybe? UV lights up the ass are finally kicking in? Bleach shots?

23 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Almost as if everyone quarantining, wearing masks and distancing impacts a respiratory virus. Shocking stuff. 

Yah, didn't stop Covid, but it stopped colds and flu.

5 minutes ago, Procus said:

Yah, didn't stop Covid, but it stopped colds and flu.

Fing YES.  COVID is a more contagious novel virus with a higher r0 than the flu. There was also a vaccine for one and not the other at the beginning of the season last year.  Again this is basic stuff you're struggling with here. 

35 minutes ago, Procus said:

Yah, didn't stop Covid, but it stopped colds and flu.

While one can't replay history, it certainly reduced the impact of Covid below what it could have been.

2 hours ago, Procus said:

First year in my considerable number of years on earth the I remember the flu taking a year off, but hey, that's just me.

this puzzles you for some reason ? 

 

3 hours ago, Procus said:

I blame Trump

Reading the article it sounds like only one version works vs Omicron, Sotrovimab from GlaxoSmithKline, and it is still being supplied by the govt.

But Biden also recently has said that states should figure this out so if FL or TX want to buy the "outdated" version of the antibodies to fight the remaining Delta then they should have the right. 

lmfao, six.  

Follow the science. no, not that science! The Science™.

1 hour ago, DEagle7 said:

Fing YES.  COVID is a more contagious novel virus with a higher r0 than the flu. There was also a vaccine for one and not the other at the beginning of the season last year.  Again this is basic stuff you're struggling with here. 

There's an old saying - you can't kid a kidder.  When you have family members who died of cancer, but whose death certificates listed Covid as the cause of death, you know something is upside down.  Colds and flus don't magically disappear for a year.  The rate of infection can go down, but they don't go away.  Stop trying to gaslight everybody.

2 hours ago, DEagle7 said:

Almost as if everyone quarantining, wearing masks and distancing impacts a respiratory virus. Shocking stuff. 

Impact - absolutely.  Eliminate, no f'g way.

18 minutes ago, Kz! said:

lmfao, six.  

6 shots that's absurd!  Completely unheard of! Unless of course you include Flu, Tetanus, Diphtheria, and Pertussis shots that every kid in America gets.

15 hours ago, Phillyterp85 said:

That's great.  And so far we have looked at 5 studies in this thread that have shown Ivermectin makes no difference in patient outcomes.   In other words, the physicians you know could have prescribed that their patients drink a glass of apple juice every morning as the "treatment" and had the same "success". 

From what I'm reading, those studies were defective if they tested Ivermectin alone without other essential parts of the regimen like zinc, anitoxidant and an appropriate antibiotic.  Nothing I've seen suggests taking Ivermectin or HCQ standing alone, and indeed, many of the materials state that absent the other parts of the regimen, they'd be ineffective. 

2 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

6 shots that's absurd!  Completely unheard of! Unless of course you include Flu, Tetanus, Diphtheria, and Pertussis shots that every kid in America gets.

And how spread apart are those shots?

12 minutes ago, Procus said:

There's an old saying - you can't kid a kidder.  When you have family members who died of cancer, but whose death certificates listed Covid as the cause of death, you know something is upside down.  Colds and flus don't magically disappear for a year.  The rate of infection can go down, but they don't go away.  Stop trying to gaslight everybody.

First of all there's still no evidence for widespread misrepresentation of COVID deaths on death certificates despite your bishing. Anyone who has ever worked in a hospital and filled out a death certificate would laugh at you for suggesting it.  Second of all neither the flu or typical URI viruses "disappeared".  There were about 700 flu deaths and every single negative COVID test that year for a symptomatic patient was a "cold" virus. 

5 minutes ago, Procus said:

And how spread apart are those shots?

For the flu it's yearly. For the others the first 4 are within about a year of each other. 5th one is age 4 and 6th is age 11. 

10 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

6 shots that's absurd!  Completely unheard of! Unless of course you include Flu, Tetanus, Diphtheria, and Pertussis shots that every kid in America gets.

Hey man, I don't judge. Do 6 or 7 if you want. 8 as long as you're following The Science™. It's just not for me at this point in my life. 

1 minute ago, DEagle7 said:

First of all there's still no evidence for widespread misrepresentation of COVID deaths on death certificates . 

Bullsheet.  I've seen it with my own eyes.

https://fee.org/articles/physicians-say-hospitals-are-pressuring-er-docs-to-list-covid-19-on-death-certificates-here-s-why/

Physicians Say Hospitals Are Pressuring ER Docs to List COVID-19 on Death Certificates. Here’s Why

The economic incentive to add COVID-19 to diagnostic lists and death certificates is clear and does not require any conspiracy.

16 minutes ago, Procus said:

Nothing I've seen suggests taking Ivermectin or HCQ standing alone, and indeed, many of the materials state that absent the other parts of the regimen, they'd be ineffective. 

Please explain how an antibiotic can be used to combat a virus.

I really can't decide who is more insane in this thread -- the imbeciles, or the people who keep thinking that one more post/fact/argument will make the imbeciles stop being imbeciles.

5 minutes ago, Procus said:

Bullsheet.  I've seen it with my own eyes.

https://fee.org/articles/physicians-say-hospitals-are-pressuring-er-docs-to-list-covid-19-on-death-certificates-here-s-why/

Physicians Say Hospitals Are Pressuring ER Docs to List COVID-19 on Death Certificates. Here’s Why

The economic incentive to add COVID-19 to diagnostic lists and death certificates is clear and does not require any conspiracy.

Like most of your anecdotes, I call BS.

Hospitals aren't paid based on what's on the death certificate *****.  They're paid based on the diagnoses documented in the EMR. And if a person is COVID positive then yes that's worth noting. It involves a higher level of care, increased PPE measures, negative pressure rooms etc. They absolutely deserve to get more money even if it's only a contributing factor. 

3 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

Please explain how an antibiotic can be used to combat a virus.

It can't be, but it combats secondary bacterial infections in the lungs

2 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Like most of your anecdotes, I call BS.

Hospitals aren't paid based on what's on the death certificate *****.  They're paid based on the diagnoses documented in the EMR. And if a person is COVID positive then yes that's worth noting. It involves a higher level of care, increased PPE measures, negative pressure rooms etc. They absolutely deserve to get more money even if it's only a contributing factor. 

And you actually believe that drivel.  You're pathetic.

1 minute ago, DEagle7 said:

Like most of your anecdotes, I call BS.

Hospitals aren't paid based on what's on the death certificate *****.  They're paid based on the diagnoses documented in the EMR. And if a person is COVID positive then yes that's worth noting. It involves a higher level of care, increased PPE measures, negative pressure rooms etc. They absolutely deserve to get more money even if it's only a contributing factor. 

Could you please stop being a mouthpiece for Rockefeller Medicine. You've clearly been brainwashed by the Illuminati and are serving the interests of the Build-A-Bear Society in order to get more funding from George Soros. That's why you keep lying about COVID. 

In conclusion:

Mic drop...

4 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

I really can't decide who is more insane in this thread -- the imbeciles, or the people who keep thinking that one more post/fact/argument will make the imbeciles stop being imbeciles.

What - you think YOU'RE sane?  I suspect you're smarter than to think that.

1 minute ago, Procus said:

What - you think YOU'RE sane?  I suspect you're smarter than to think that.

Yeah! Exactly!

17 minutes ago, Procus said:

And you actually believe that drivel.  You're pathetic.

I believe it because I'VE ACTUALLY HAD TO DO IT BEFORE.  Like how on earth do you think you know more about this process than me? 

18 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Could you please stop being a mouthpiece for Rockefeller Medicine. You've clearly been brainwashed by the Illuminati and are serving the interests of the Build-A-Bear Society in order to get more funding from George Soros. That's why you keep lying about COVID. 

In conclusion:

Mic drop...

13 hours ago, Phillyterp85 said:

Right you posted a link to a meta analysis of 71 studies.  Just by sheer luck of going in alphabetical order, we’ve already seen that the first study we looked out showed no statistically significant benefit, despite the authors of the meta analysis study claiming it does.  Soooo pick another study from that group of 71 then and present it.  

The authors of the study claimed positive benefits. Your argument is with them. You can go thru the 70 other studies, if you like. My point was not to analyze the details of each study. My point is simply that positive studies exist.

Secondly, while studies may have some role to play for individuals to consider in their own case, they do not displace the agency of individual Americans.