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The 2020 Corona Thread

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I do not eat much sugar/sweets. I enjoy my morning coffee with the bare minimum of unprocessed sugar (I "dip the tip" of a small spoon, maybe end up with 1/8 tsp) and a dash of milk. 

My breakfast is usually something like toast, or steel cut oats (from the big canister) with blue-berries on top. no sugar added.

When I cook I do go a little heavy on the butter. But I also enjoy eating, and I'll accept the health consequences of some indulgences.

What I have too much of is typically beer, and we eat out more than we should. We specifically ate/ordered out more during the pandemic because we wanted to help support local restaurants. Covid has added to my waistline unfortunately. And I have a desk job, which sucks for that.

I did recently get an under-desk stationary bike. I have a rising desk at home so all I need to do is get the desk high enough that the knees don't bash it. 

I do not get as much cardio as I should - jesus Vikas you're like a goddamn machine. I also work too much. Working from home has its disadvantages. 

4 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Luckily I don’t have kids, so blocking out 60-120 minutes a day is no big deal. 

I love my kids, but they are difficult to schedule around at times. Was easier when my kid was going to karate 3 days a week, I would get my workout in while he was doing his class. He's down to 1 day a week, and I'm typically working late so my wife takes him :facepalm: 

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4 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Try almond milk as a replacement for the skim milk. 
 

Luckily I don’t have kids, so blocking out 60-120 minutes a day is no big deal. 

I've been trying that while doing chores today, and my wife is up my arse about my time on the EMB (or, as she calls it "ESPN and Facebook!" lol) this morning... I'm "writing a paper" right now on Islamic Economic practices.  Actually something that I am enjoying, but ughhhhhhhhhhhh school. Why did I wait so many years to finish my Master's?!!?!?! klnkjn

1 minute ago, IFB DOG said:

I know you're not saying I said otherwise, but I 100% wear a mask indoors, and when interacting with clients at work (we get a few that come in throughout the day for meetings and help).  But I don't wear a mask in my own office or when outside.  I had to meet a client at a local university and they require kids to wear them OUTDOORS between classes!  The world has gone insane!

Also, herd immunity for the rest can be accomplished through natural infection. There's nothing inherently wrong with that for low-risk individuals. 

Besides the slight risk of death and the growing evidence of potentially permanent lung and heart damage? Sure. 

Again we also don't know how well immunity from infection compares to immunity from vaccination.  There are many cases of vaccines being more effective in promoting infection than immunity.  

Hey, I know I am insane. I was out of shape in my 30s and decided to get serious about 5 years ago. Quit smoking and started using an elliptical 5 days a week. At the end of 2018, the wifey wanted to get a Peloton. She stopped using it after like a month, so I started so we could get our money’s worth. Got addicted. 
 

A little over a year ago, I wanted to get more serious about my diet so I hired a nutritionist and trainer. Now I do 6 days a week on the Peloton. Works for me. 

5 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Besides the slight risk of death and the growing evidence of potentially permanent lung and heart damage? Sure. 

Again we also don't know how well immunity from infection compares to immunity from vaccination.  There are many cases of vaccines being more effective in promoting infection than immunity.  

Do you have any more information that is recent?

This is all I could find in "moderate" cases. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2768916 mostly speculative as it was from July. 
 


And obviously its going to be extremely hard to find data on asymptomatic cases...

2 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Hey, I know I am insane. I was out of shape in my 30s and decided to get serious about 5 years ago. Quit smoking and started using an elliptical 5 days a week. At the end of 2018, the wifey wanted to get a Peloton. She stopped using it after like a month, so I started so we could get our money’s worth. Got addicted. 
 

A little over a year ago, I wanted to get more serious about my diet so I hired a nutritionist and trainer. Now I do 6 days a week on the Peloton. Works for me. 

How do you pay them?   And what are the ongoing costs associated from working with a nutritionist?  I have some money put aside that I'd like to invest in my weight loss goals, but also don't really know where to start with regards to a nutritionist. 

1 minute ago, IFB DOG said:

How do you pay them?   And what are the ongoing costs associated from working with a nutritionist?  I have some money put aside that I'd like to invest in my weight loss goals, but also don't really know where to start with regards to a nutritionist. 

I hired a pretty expensive guy who works with the studios out here. The cost is probably around $1,000 per month. There are definitely lower cost options. It is nice to have someone knowledgeable to talk to and devise a plan with. 

7 minutes ago, IFB DOG said:

Do you have any more information that is recent?

This is all I could find in "moderate" cases. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2768916 mostly speculative as it was from July. 
 


And obviously its going to be extremely hard to find data on asymptomatic cases...

It's mostly just case studies of lung scarring and myocarditis at this point.  I'm in pediatrics so my big concern has been multisystem inflammatory syndrome (MIS-C) which is a Kawasaki-like inflammatory disease seen in some kids with COVID that causes pretty serious cardiac effects like coronary aneurysm.  Still only small studies though, this is from 1 center with an n of 24 comparing it to Kawasaki disease (which itself is a pretty Fed up condition).

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/circ.142.suppl_3.17092

14 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Hey, I know I am insane. I was out of shape in my 30s and decided to get serious about 5 years ago. Quit smoking and started using an elliptical 5 days a week. At the end of 2018, the wifey wanted to get a Peloton. She stopped using it after like a month, so I started so we could get our money’s worth. Got addicted. 
 

A little over a year ago, I wanted to get more serious about my diet so I hired a nutritionist and trainer. Now I do 6 days a week on the Peloton. Works for me. 

I mean it in the best possible way :lol:

I wish I had the time and commitment to get back to that. A few years ago I was doing 10k's at 7:30/mi, but gimpy knees have made that unrealistic to maintain.

55 minutes ago, downundermike said:

My company goes by state guidelines,   Which was sent out to all employees on company letter head, clearly explaining them to us in regards to our business.  Your employer did not do the same ??

I'm pretty sure most do, mine does. If you get it or are around someone who does we call HR and they walk us through the process which is based off of state guidlines. I'm not sure why you need to call the state itself to help you with contact tracing at your job. It makes absolutely no sense. 

1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

I mean it in the best possible way :lol:

I wish I had the time and commitment to get back to that. A few years ago I was doing 10k's at 7:30/mi, but gimpy knees have made that unrealistic to maintain.

I used to run 5-10 miles 4 times a week and usually at sub 7min mile paces.  That was almost 15 years ago and before I tore my knee to shreds skiing in Breckenridge.

9 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

I hired a pretty expensive guy who works with the studios out here. The cost is probably around $1,000 per month. There are definitely lower cost options. It is nice to have someone knowledgeable to talk to and devise a plan with. 

What's his logic behind the strict no on dairy?  My breakfast every morning is one of those non-fat Siggis yogurts, mostly cause they keep me full with some protein and I like getting some live cultures in.  

Just now, DEagle7 said:

What's his logic behind the strict no on dairy?  My breakfast every morning is one of those non-fat Siggis yogurts, mostly cause they keep me full with some protein and I like getting some live cultures in.  

Bloating and water retention. My goal is to reduce body fat and increase muscle mass. So high protein and no dairy. 
 

My breakfast is the same every day. 3 egg omelette, cup of oatmeal with berries and coffee and water. 

14 minutes ago, IFB DOG said:

How do you pay them?   And what are the ongoing costs associated from working with a nutritionist?  I have some money put aside that I'd like to invest in my weight loss goals, but also don't really know where to start with regards to a nutritionist. 

There's tons of nutritionists out there.  They'll give you what portions of what you should consume.  Hell once you're in a routine you don't need them anymore.  99% of eating healthy is meal prep.  I'm basically an egg and slice of breakfast meat on a light english muffin for breakfast.  Salad w/grilled chicken at lunch.  And a balanced dinner with reasonable portions.  Having salads made and menu plan for the week helps a ton.  My only downfall is beer. Still even with my beer drinking I manage to stay under 160 mostly based off diet.

Just keep in mind...after eating healthy for a while, when you have a cheat meal and eat fast food, pizza, etc...you will feel like crap.  Not because you cheated, but because it's like your body rejecting the junk.

4 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Bloating and water retention. My goal is to reduce body fat and increase muscle mass. So high protein and no dairy. 
 

My breakfast is the same every day. 3 egg omelette, cup of oatmeal with berries and coffee and water. 

You can’t have much fat at a whopping 130.

Just now, rambo said:

Just keep in mind...after eating healthy for a while, when you have a cheat meal and eat fast food, pizza, etc...you will feel like crap.  Not because you cheated, but because it's like your body rejecting the junk.

Most of my cheat meals are high quality but just decadent. Usually a high end steakhouse for ribeye, potato side, mac and cheese, etc. And then some kind of insane dessert. 
 

An hour later I basically can’t move. 

1 minute ago, DrPhilly said:

You can’t have much fat at a whopping 130.

I was 18.8% body fat when I went to him. Now I am about 3 pounds lighter but down to below 8% fat. So replacing fat with muscle. 

34 minutes ago, IFB DOG said:

How do you pay them?   And what are the ongoing costs associated from working with a nutritionist?  I have some money put aside that I'd like to invest in my weight loss goals, but also don't really know where to start with regards to a nutritionist. 

Download MyFitnessPal and start counting calories. That is the cheapest way and should work. 

Don't think of your health now, but when you are in your 60s/70s. Take care of your body now so you can enjoy your retirement and live a healthy life as long as possible. 

15 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Bloating and water retention. My goal is to reduce body fat and increase muscle mass. So high protein and no dairy. 
 

My breakfast is the same every day. 3 egg omelette, cup of oatmeal with berries and coffee and water. 

Cough TRT Cough 

4 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

I was 18.8% body fat when I went to him. Now I am about 3 pounds lighter but down to below 8% fat. So replacing fat with muscle. 

Excellent!  You probably don't want to go below the 8%.  Sounds like you're right where you want to be at this point.

2 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Don't think of your health now, but when you are in your 60s/70s. Take care of your body now so you can enjoy your retirement and live a healthy life as long as possible. 

That's my focus. I'm into my 40s, working hard to have enough in retirement to have a nice lifestyle. I don't want to spend that time riddled with bodily ailments.

9 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Most of my cheat meals are high quality but just decadent. Usually a high end steakhouse for ribeye, potato side, mac and cheese, etc. And then some kind of insane dessert. 
 

An hour later I basically can’t move. 

Mine is 3 McDoubles, Large Fry, and Large McFlurry. Total crap but awesome for a refeed and can kill a workout the next day. 

12 minutes ago, rambo said:

Just keep in mind...after eating healthy for a while, when you have a cheat meal and eat fast food, pizza, etc...you will feel like crap.  Not because you cheated, but because it's like your body rejecting the junk.

Or you can skip the healthy eating and cheat every day, I figure if the end of the world is coming enjoy the food

2 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Bloating and water retention. My goal is to reduce body fat and increase muscle mass. So high protein and no dairy. 
 

My breakfast is the same every day. 3 egg omelette, cup of oatmeal with berries and coffee and water. 

That should only be a big issue with lactose intolerance no? I dunno I limit dairy as much as possible outside of special occasions. Swapped  any cream use with homemade aioli. Still use too much ghee but hey. But the yogurts seem on the up and up and has my poos in a happy place.

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9 minutes ago, rambo said:

There's tons of nutritionists out there.  They'll give you what portions of what you should consume.  Hell once you're in a routine you don't need them anymore.  99% of eating healthy is meal prep.  I'm basically an egg and slice of breakfast meat on a light english muffin for breakfast.  Salad w/grilled chicken at lunch.  And a balanced dinner with reasonable portions.  Having salads made and menu plan for the week helps a ton.  My only downfall is beer. Still even with my beer drinking I manage to stay under 160 mostly based off diet.

If you're doing a lot of grilled chicken I'd suggest a brine.  2 quarts of water, 1/3 cup of kosher salt, 1/4 cup sugar + whatever herbs and spices you'd like.  Warm until it's all dissolved.  Marinate chicken in it for anywhere from 30 minutes to 24 hours.  Makes a huge taste difference.  

If you want another high protein option I do this pretty often.  Simple homemade hummus  but it's 100x better than store-bought

https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1017734-zahavs-hummus-tehina

Of course I say this on a day I cooked myself a fat ham + cheese three egg omelette with a couple sausage links :lol:

In my defense it's Saturday.

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