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The 2020 Corona Thread

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Just now, JohnSnowsHair said:

That's my focus. I'm into my 40s, working hard to have enough in retirement to have a nice lifestyle. I don't want to spend that time riddled with bodily ailments.

I spend just as much time doing mobility work, stretching, yoga as I do actual working out these. I can't say I enjoy it but understand why it needs to be done. 

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6 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

That should only be a big issue with lactose intolerance no? I dunno I limit dairy as much as possible outside of special occasions. Swapped  any cream use with homemade aioli. Still use too much ghee but hey. But the yogurts seem on the up and up and has my poos in a happy place.

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Siggi is a great Icelandic yogurt for sure. I have been using Coco Whip, dairy free, with some fresh fruits and a healthy granola most mornings with a protein shake. It works

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5 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

That should only be a big issue with lactose intolerance no? I dunno I limit dairy as much as possible outside of special occasions. Swapped  any cream use with homemade aioli. Still use too much ghee but hey. But the yogurts seem on the up and up and has my poos in a happy place.

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If you're doing a lot of grilled chicken I'd suggest a brine.  2 quarts of water, 1/3 cup of kosher salt, 1/4 cup sugar + whatever herbs and spices you'd like.  Warm until it's all dissolved.  Marinate chicken in it for anywhere from 30 minutes to 24 hours.  Makes a huge taste difference.  

If you want another high protein option I do this pretty often.  Simple homemade hummus  but it's 100x better than store-bought

https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1017734-zahavs-hummus-tehina

Remember - most Indians are lactose intolerant. The whole sacred cow thing. 

Ok. Off to ride the Peloton. 

What are the thoughts on walking ? How many miles a day is recommended? Eskin says he walks around 10 miles a day, that seems absurd

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Anyone who cooks might I suggest this book if you're trying to up your vegetable game.  It's not all healthy (the fried cauliflower with caper aioli is sexual) but really helps you spice up meals without relying on leaning on meats and dairy.

1 minute ago, vikas83 said:

Remember - most Indians are lactose intolerant. The whole sacred cow thing. 

Ah crap I forgot about that.  Fair point fair point.  Man that's unfortunate...cheese really is sacred.

2 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

What are the thoughts on walking ? How many miles a day is recommended? Eskin says he walks around 10 miles a day, that seems absurd

Walking is awesome but think if you have 60 to 90 minutes a day then other things are more beneficial. Also depending on where you are in your health goals to me. 

1 minute ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

What are the thoughts on walking ? How many miles a day is recommended? Eskin says he walks around 10 miles a day, that seems absurd

Walking is fine but ideally you should be doing something that gets your heart rate elevated and something that promotes muscle mass.

2 hours ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

  

 

As with any epidemic/pandemic, the final piece is always the developing world. We can't truly eradicate anything without a consistently robust response that includes the poorest nations. This includes educating remote populations and tribal communities that do not understand disease and are suspicious or western medicine after centuries in a postcolonial world. Even after the last reported case of smallpox was reported in the U.S. 1949, nearly 200 years after Jenner created a vaccine for it, it still took another 30 years to eradicate the disease worldwide. So, if we literally have to subsidize the public health of African nations, we need to do it in concert with global community, otherwise we'll be unable to really contain this and constantly have have the virus circulating and mutating outside our front door.

Definitely. Polio is on the brink but compete eradication is always difficult. That being said, measles is the most contagious virus we know of and yet confirmed cases of measles are still super rare domestically because of how effective its vaccine was. That's where we'll probably be with this in 2 years.

3 hours ago, IFB DOG said:

No, and I actually just edited my post to clarify. Fair call.

Check out Altimmune for a more accurate depiction of a vaccine. That's all I'm saying.

It's still wrong, but whatever.

11 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Definitely. Polio is on the brink but compete eradication is always difficult. That being said, measles is the most contagious virus we know of and yet confirmed cases of measles are still super rare domestically because of how effective its vaccine was. That's where we'll probably be with this in 2 years.

With countries like Italy fumbling the vaccine rollout do you still say end of pandemic by end of year?

 

2 hours ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

Makes sense. I always thought of "inoculation" as an older term and associated it with the process used by Jenner, which squares with your description as technically being an inoculation, since he was basically just shooting people up with cowpox. I'm guessing that we don't really inject fully active viruses in people much anymore, so inoculation as a disease-prevention method is more or less obsolete.

I always thought inoculation and vaccination were interchangeable, perhaps mistakenly. Jenner using cow pox or tiny amounts of open pox sores was called something else specifically, but I forget what the term was.

12 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I always thought inoculation and vaccination were interchangeable, perhaps mistakenly. Jenner using cow pox or tiny amounts of open pox sores was called something else specifically, but I forget what the term was.

There are/(were?) subtle differences.  Inoculate means to introduce a microorganism to something (eg inoculate people with cowpox virus to prevent smallpox, or inoculate a petri dish with bacteria).  It has since become used  interchangeably with vaccinate though (eg inoculate against measles with a vaccine).  So the differences are pretty minimal.  Inoculate is a just a bit broader..  

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2 hours ago, IFB DOG said:

https://medical.mit.edu/covid-19-updates/2020/12/can-someone-who-recovered-spread-COVID19

Oh, and we know there are different strands, right?  So yeah, when they say "sorry, MoDeRnA pRoBaBlY wOnT hElP aGaInSt ThE nEw StRaNd" then, yeah... vaccine is not the end all, be all. Work out. Get a gym membership. 

 

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00031-0

"Stand"? Assuming you mean strain, there's not much, if any, evidence that people fully vaccinated are getting infected from the UK or SA variants.

2 hours ago, IFB DOG said:

I know you're not saying I said otherwise, but I 100% wear a mask indoors, and when interacting with clients at work (we get a few that come in throughout the day for meetings and help).  But I don't wear a mask in my own office or when outside.  I had to meet a client at a local university and they require kids to wear them OUTDOORS between classes!  The world has gone insane!

Also, herd immunity for the rest can be accomplished through natural infection. There's nothing inherently wrong with that for low-risk individuals. 

Except for those with persistent symptoms (even in healthy young adults) from a disease we know very little about. And also the fact that they're infectious to their friends and family during that time. But yeah, besides that, it's perfectly fine.

1 hour ago, vikas83 said:

Ok. Off to ride the Peloton. 

Did my first Dennis ride today...what the F?  Good work out by I'm at least 70% sure he's a serial killer.  This gif doesn't do it justice but the creepy 1000-yard stares are very Patrick Bateman-y

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2 hours ago, DEagle7 said:

That should only be a big issue with lactose intolerance no? I dunno I limit dairy as much as possible outside of special occasions. Swapped  any cream use with homemade aioli. Still use too much ghee but hey. But the yogurts seem on the up and up and has my poos in a happy place.

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If you're doing a lot of grilled chicken I'd suggest a brine.  2 quarts of water, 1/3 cup of kosher salt, 1/4 cup sugar + whatever herbs and spices you'd like.  Warm until it's all dissolved.  Marinate chicken in it for anywhere from 30 minutes to 24 hours.  Makes a huge taste difference.  

If you want another high protein option I do this pretty often.  Simple homemade hummus  but it's 100x better than store-bought

https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1017734-zahavs-hummus-tehina

Some concerns with saturated fat in dairy I suppose, but risk can be mitigated with exercise and consumption of monounsaturated fats to keep HDLs up (olive oil, ftw). I mostly stick to a Mediterranean style diet, with minimal sugar and low sodium levels, but I can't abstain from a bombass cheeseburger or wood fired pizza topped with fresh bocconcini and sausage.

9 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Did my first Dennis ride today...what the F?  Good work out by I'm at least 70% sure he's a serial killer.  This gif doesn't do it justice but the creepy 1000-yard stares are very Patrick Bateman-y

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Sam Yo is where its at.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

With countries like Italy fumbling the vaccine rollout do you still say end of pandemic by end of year?

 

Yes

1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I always thought inoculation and vaccination were interchangeable, perhaps mistakenly. Jenner using cow pox or tiny amounts of open pox sores was called something else specifically, but I forget what the term was.

Follow up, it was variolation I was thinking of.

11 minutes ago, paco said:

Sam Yo is where its at.

 

 

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As long as he doesn't give me "it puts the lotion in the basket" vibes I'll consider it a step up from Dennis.  Although I liked his music choices so maybe I'll give him another shot. Maybe cover the screen so he can't look directly into my soul.

I considered getting a peloton but I'm a bit concerned it'll become an expensive towel rack. I've never been able to consistently work out indoors at home. I can do the bikes at the gym, but that's in the context of a broader workout and it's easier to get into the working out frame of mind there. So many distractions at home.

I understand you can get the peloton program independent of the bike. Might look into that, and if I'm able to get myself hooked I'll be less apprehensive about buying the full deal.

7 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

I considered getting a peloton but I'm a bit concerned it'll become an expensive towel rack. I've never been able to consistently work out indoors at home. I can do the bikes at the gym, but that's in the context of a broader workout and it's easier to get into the working out frame of mind there. So many distractions at home.

I understand you can get the peloton program independent of the bike. Might look into that, and if I'm able to get myself hooked I'll be less apprehensive about buying the full deal.

How about a pair or two of kettlebells? I used them a lot this winter to maintain my cardio and minimal muscle loss. 

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