April 15, 20215 yr 10 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: They’re pausing the J&J vaccine to make sure there aren’t actually a lot more than six cases... Plus to get the word out to anyone who has received it on what symptoms to look for. And also to tell doctors the treatment must be different. Totally reasonable.
April 15, 20215 yr 7 minutes ago, Gannan said: Sort of. My family is pretty religious. My wife has a cross in every room in our house. However, we don't see the bible as an literal instructional manual for life or subsequently as a short cut to thinking. I think that's where people get themselves in trouble. Yep. It's not necessarily religion itself. It's the nature of many of the people that tend to lean heavily on it. I'm actually firmly against the left's desire to turn people away from religion. I think it's damaging and poorly thought out. What the left fails to understand is that people are mind-numbingly stupid. They need that guidance and if it doesn't come from Jesus or Buddha or whoever, it'll come from somewhere else, like Trump. I don't think it's in any way a coincidence that the rise of Trumpism tracked right in line with the decline of religious affiliation in this country. I'd much rather these people follow the example of Jesus than of a secular grifter.
April 15, 20215 yr 3 minutes ago, Paul852 said: Plus to get the word out to anyone who has received it on what symptoms to look for. And also to tell doctors the treatment must be different. Totally reasonable. Sounds very rational, A pause is certainly fine in theory but in the real world it does harm to the vaccination efforts, Sounds like you guys really think highly of the trumpbots to think
April 15, 20215 yr 12 minutes ago, Gannan said: Sort of. My family is pretty religious. My wife has a cross in every room in our house. However, we don't see the bible as an literal instructional manual for life or subsequently as a short cut to thinking. I think that's where people get themselves in trouble. Some people use religion in the right way and are guided by its principles. Unfortunately, many more use it in ways that are not only self-destructive but societally destructive as well. If I were to re-word it, I could say, "I blame religious fundamentalism." There are simply too many people who take these ancient texts literally.
April 15, 20215 yr Just now, EaglesRocker97 said: Some people use religion in the right way and are guided by its principles. Unfortunately, many more use it in ways that are not only self-destructive but societally destructive as well. If I were to re-word it, I could say "I blame religious fundamentalism." There are simply too many people who take these ancient texts literally. No they pick which parts they like and exaggerate them and ignore the other parts
April 15, 20215 yr 4 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Yep. It's not necessarily religion itself. It's the nature of many of the people that tend to lean heavily on it. I'm actually firmly against the left's desire to turn people away from religion. I think it's damaging and poorly thought out. What the left fails to understand is that people are mind-numbingly stupid. They need that guidance and if it doesn't come from Jesus or Buddha or whoever, it'll come from somewhere else, like Trump. I don't think it's in any way a coincidence that the rise of Trumpism tracked right in line with the decline of religious affiliation in this country. I'd much rather these people follow the example of Jesus than of a secular grifter. Yeah case in point, Biden is the most religious president we've had since W, but fundamentalists prefer the guy who raw dogged a porn star while his wife was giving birth.
April 15, 20215 yr 3 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said: Sounds very rational, A pause is certainly fine in theory but in the real world it does harm to the vaccination efforts, Sounds like you guys really think highly of the trumpbots to think I mean, at this point I doubt there were many people on the fence. They were either getting it or they weren't.
April 15, 20215 yr Just now, Paul852 said: I mean, at this point I doubt there were many people on the fence. They were either getting it or they weren't. It will come down to forced vaccinations in the end anyway I guess
April 15, 20215 yr Just now, Joe Shades 73 said: It will come down to forced vaccinations in the end anyway I guess That will never happen. Especially with a vaccine that isn't even officially approved by the FDA (only for emergency use)
April 15, 20215 yr Just now, Joe Shades 73 said: It will come down to forced vaccinations in the end anyway I guess Well of course you picked the worst possible outcome.
April 15, 20215 yr 3 minutes ago, Paul852 said: That will never happen. Especially with a vaccine that isn't even officially approved by the FDA (only for emergency use) We will be left with forced vaccinations or an ongoing pandemic thanks to the idiots
April 15, 20215 yr 2 minutes ago, Boogyman said: Well of course you picked the worst possible outcome. It will be "40-60%" get vaccinated and a large portion of the rest get COVID to get us to herd immunity. "Forced vaccination" isn't the worst outcome because it's an impossible outcome.
April 15, 20215 yr It will not be federally mandated, but it may end up being required by enough employers and privately mandated enough for access to goods and services to push us to herd immunity. That would probably be the least controversial way to "force" it on people. As many on the right like to say, "Let the private sector handle it."
April 15, 20215 yr 2 minutes ago, Boogyman said: Well of course you picked the worst possible outcome. Hardly the worst, watching the Trumpbots forced to get vaccinated should be put on national TV
April 15, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, Joe Shades 73 said: We will be left with forced vaccinations or an ongoing pandemic thanks to the idiots No, the idiots will just have to get antibodies instead.
April 15, 20215 yr Just now, EaglesRocker97 said: It will not be federally mandated, but it may end up being required by enough employers and privately mandated enough for access to goods and services to push us to herd immunity. That would probably be the least controversial way to "force" it on people. As many on the right like to say, "Let the private sector handle it." Exactly
April 15, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, Paul852 said: It will be "40-60%" get vaccinated and a large portion of the rest get COVID to get us to herd immunity. "Forced vaccination" isn't the worst outcome because it's an impossible outcome. I was being sarcastic given the guy I posted propensity for always thinking the sky is going to fall and land directly on his head.
April 15, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, Paul852 said: No, the idiots will just have to get antibodies instead. That would take too long
April 15, 20215 yr Just now, Joe Shades 73 said: Hardly the worst, watching the Trumpbots forced to get vaccinated should be put on national TV Nobody should be forced to get vaccines where the possible long-term effects are unknown. Nobody. Personally, I trust the science and would stand in line for Pfizer, Moderna, J&J, AstraZeneca, etc. I would never be dismissive of people who choose otherwise.
April 15, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, Joe Shades 73 said: Hardly the worst, watching the Trumpbots forced to get vaccinated should be put on national TV No the worst would be a glimpse into your outlook of the future.
April 15, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, Joe Shades 73 said: That would take too long According to the schedule of? People who have weddings in 2022?
April 15, 20215 yr 3 minutes ago, Boogyman said: No the worst would be a glimpse into your outlook of the future. My outlook is in some way everyone being coerced into the vaccine and the pandemic ending, then the sun exploding and killing everyone, happy times
April 15, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, Paul852 said: Nobody should be forced to get vaccines where the possible long-term effects are unknown. Nobody. Personally, I trust the science and would stand in line for Pfizer, Moderna, J&J, AstraZeneca, etc. I would never be dismissive of people who choose otherwise. I would. I'm fighting with my brother about this right now. He's a huge liberal who's always been insanely paranoid about the gov't/CIA/whatever. Has never gotten a cell phone, won't get a vaccine. It's like arguing with a child. I'm sorry, but in order for this to work, we need people to let go of their paranoid conspiracies. People need to man up and get the shot.
April 15, 20215 yr 2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: I would. I'm fighting with my brother about this right now. He's a huge liberal who's always been insanely paranoid about the gov't/CIA/whatever. Has never gotten a cell phone, won't get a vaccine. It's like arguing with a child. I'm sorry, but in order for this to work, we need people to let go of their paranoid conspiracies. People need to man up and get the shot. My cousin that had throat cancer and is over weight will let god handle it instead of getting the vaccine, these are the types of people we are dealing with
April 15, 20215 yr 2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: I would. I'm fighting with my brother about this right now. He's a huge liberal who's always been insanely paranoid about the gov't/CIA/whatever. Has never gotten a cell phone, won't get a vaccine. It's like arguing with a child. I'm sorry, but in order for this to work, we need people to let go of their paranoid conspiracies. People need to man up and get the shot. I can't be mad at people for questioning a vaccine developed on such a short timeline.
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