1 minute ago, Paul852 said:

I can't be mad at people for questioning a vaccine developed on such a short timeline.

Most of the anti vaxxers are just opposed to them no matter what

3 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Most of the anti vaxxers are just opposed to them no matter what

That's fine but I know for a fact all of the people who are not getting the vaccine aren't just anti-vaxxers. 

1 minute ago, Paul852 said:

I can't be mad at people for questioning a vaccine developed on such a short timeline.

I can.  I mean, question all you want, but get the damn thing.

Look, under normal circumstances, I'd agree, but the fact is we need people to buy in here.  They're just gonna have to get over it for the good of the country.

My brother's not in a high risk category.  He's in his mid-40's but he's never been married or had any kids that he knows of, is a vegetarian, not overweight, works out regularly.  But still he needs to get it.  His conspiracies are based on paranoia, not logic.  What's the worst that could happen?  He runs out a buys a PC and an X-Box?

Good luck getting everyone that got the vaccine to get another shot, no way we get 100% compliance plus the anti vaxxers again get ammo to say the vaccine does not work so why get it they will say

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/15/pfizer-ceo-says-third-covid-vaccine-dose-likely-needed-within-12-months.html?__source=sharebar|twitter&par=sharebar

36 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

I can't be mad at people for questioning a vaccine developed on such a short timeline.

Initially yes, but now given we have millions of people who took it and it’s proven safe?

41 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

I can't be mad at people for questioning a vaccine developed on such a short timeline.

 

I can at least be disappointed in their having zero concept of sacrifice, especially in a circumstance with the risks being infinitesimally low.

This really isn't difficult. Want to get people to take the vaccine? Simple. Anyone who gets COVID after 9/30/21 and wasn't vaccinated (assuming they were eligible) will not have their medical care covered by Medicare, Medicaid, private insurance, etc. If you choose to be irresponsible, then deal with the consequences of your actions. 

Now, that would be easiest, but it will never happen. Luckily, the market will step in. Want to fly on a plane? Show proof of vaccination. Go to a baseball game? Concert? School? Chuck E Cheese? Make those who choose to be idiots sit in their homes all day. Government can't force someone to get a vaccine, but businesses are free to refuse service to anyone they want. 

10 minutes ago, paco said:

Initially yes, but now given we have millions of people who took it and it’s proven safe?

Well, dude, 6 people got clots out of over 7 million. Clearly it's not safe.

1 hour ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

We will be left with forced vaccinations or an ongoing pandemic thanks to the idiots

 

 

You might be right that it might take decades for it to be totally gone. Forced vaccinations are never going to happen. Public schools can require it, and even employers once it has passed the emergency authorization stage. I think the rest of us will probably have to get an annual booster which will reasonably protect us. It's going to be a long long time before I do what any of those Texas Rangers fans are doing. 

 

1 minute ago, Dave Moss said:

https://twitter.com/jannwolfe/status/1382748358360633344?s=21

And that's how they hook ya.

4 minutes ago, Gannan said:

You might be right that it might take decades for it to be totally gone. Forced vaccinations are never going to happen. Public schools can require it, and even employers once it has passed the emergency authorization stage. I think the rest of us will probably have to get an annual booster which will reasonably protect us. It's going to be a long long time before I do what any of those Texas Rangers fans are doing. 

Once vaccinated I will accept the risk, If i can still get it but not bad ok and If i can get it and pass it along to the anti vaxxers well then I have done a service to our country

Someone spin this into good news

https://news.yahoo.com/america-is-about-to-hit-a-vaccine-wall-as-demand-drops-with-or-without-johnson-johnson-162241805.html

 

"Vaccination rates will then slow, and Surgo’s projections show that if what Americans now say about their preferred timelines for getting vaccinated is true — "as soon as it’s available,” "in three months,” "in a year,” "don’t know” and "would not get vaccinated” — overall U.S. coverage will plateau around 52 percent of the population by July. When combined with people who have already been infected, the overall immunity rate overall may hit 65 percent by then, according to Surgo — still not high enough for herd immunity."

14 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

https://twitter.com/jannwolfe/status/1382748358360633344?s=21

I’m shocked. 🙄 

18 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

https://twitter.com/jannwolfe/status/1382748358360633344?s=21

 

Fine by me. Whatever it takes.

Just now, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

Fine by me. Whatever it takes.

Unfortunately many do not share that view

46 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Anyone who gets COVID after 9/30/21 and wasn't vaccinated (assuming they were eligible) will not have their medical care covered by Medicare, Medicaid, private insurance, etc. If you choose to be irresponsible, then deal with the consequences of your actions

Some insurance carriers already give incentives for healthy behavior, like gift cards for hitting weight and exercise goals, etc. They could and should do the same with vaccines. Something like a $100 gift card after proving you've been vaccinated wouldn't get everyone on-board, but it would give a lot of those fence sitters a good push.

Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

Some insurance carriers already give incentives for healthy behavior, like gift cards for hitting weight and exercise goals, etc. They could and should do the same with vaccines. Something like a $100 gift card after proving you've been vaccinated wouldn't get everyone on-board, but it would give a lot of those fence sitters a good push.

The $100 gift card strategy is not the answer to herd immunity , only locking these people out of society is and it will be done if that is the last resort which it will be

Morons, The country is full of them

 

3 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Unfortunately many do not share that view

 

People are f***ing babies.

1 minute ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

People are f***ing babies.

And stupid

18 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Someone spin this into good news

https://news.yahoo.com/america-is-about-to-hit-a-vaccine-wall-as-demand-drops-with-or-without-johnson-johnson-162241805.html

 

"Vaccination rates will then slow, and Surgo’s projections show that if what Americans now say about their preferred timelines for getting vaccinated is true — "as soon as it’s available,” "in three months,” "in a year,” "don’t know” and "would not get vaccinated” — overall U.S. coverage will plateau around 52 percent of the population by July. When combined with people who have already been infected, the overall immunity rate overall may hit 65 percent by then, according to Surgo — still not high enough for herd immunity."

This is still in line with most protections and shouldn't be a shock to anyone. Unless you believed the one guy who wrote an article for the WSJ saying we'd have herd immunity by May, which I personally disagreed with. I've posted the McKinsey protections before and feel like they are still the most thorough in accounting for all factors and variables. Check back in August and see if 55% of the total population hasn't been vaccinated by then.

11 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

The $100 gift card strategy is not the answer to herd immunity , only locking these people out of society is and it will be done if that is the last resort which it will be

Oh ok.

people have been making dumb choices forever.

somehow, despite ourselves, we still continue to survive.

so we'll do what we always do. those with a few brain cells to rub together will continue to be significantly less wrong than those with none, and we'll sit back and laugh at each other while reveling in our own superiority. 

9 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

And stupid

 

More than the stupid ones who just don't trust vaccines, though, there are going to be a lot more of whom asking to get a third dose will just be too much of an interruption in their pathetic lives. "Wahhh, I already got vaccinated. A third appointment is just too much! I have so many shows to binge on Netflix! Life is so hard! It's so difficult to do things! When are people going to care about my life and my petty problems! If there's one thing I can't handle it's a minor inconvenience! Look at me, I'm entitled and need attention! WAHHHHHH!"

I'm not sure I share Bourla's view that annual vaccinations are likely. I'd say a third booster is, sometime in the winter to spring timeframe, but beyond that I doubt we'll ever see a public push for another one due to how low the numbers will be by fall 2022.