May 4, 20215 yr Just now, Kz! said: I'll let you guys beta test the mRNA vaccines and when I am sufficiently convinced there are no long term side effects I will get it. Until then I will continue not being fat, so my chances of becoming seriously ill because of coronavirus are nearly nonexistent. Deal? So far I’ve found the main side effect to be crap-posting on the EMB
May 4, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, Kz! said: I'll let you guys beta test the mRNA vaccines and when I am sufficiently convinced there are no long term side effects I will get it. Until then I will continue not being fat, so my chances of becoming seriously ill because of coronavirus are nearly nonexistent. Deal? No deal. Get the vaccine, loser.
May 4, 20215 yr 11 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: So far I’ve found the main side effect to be crap-posting on the EMB Interesting, might be fun to get the vaccine just so I can feel what that's like, you know? 10 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: No deal. Get the vaccine, loser. Dave actually just convinced me to get it one post up, but since you called me a name, I'm not going to now.
May 4, 20215 yr 3 minutes ago, Kz! said: Interesting, might be fun to get the vaccine just so I can feel what that's like, you know? Dave actually just convinced me to get it one post up, but since you called me a name, I'm not going to now. Think of it this way. You're what? 30? 35? On average, you'll live another 40 years or so. That's 40 years of trolling on message boards and generally wasting the air and resources we all need for the betterment of no-one. If the vaccine takes you early (which has happened to exactly no one at the moment, but could conceivably happen at some point), those are valuable resources someone more worthy can use. Plus, as an added benefit, you'll contribute to herd immunity, helping taking out this virus and saving countless more lives. When you think about it like that, it's a no brainer.
May 4, 20215 yr 3 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Think of it this way. You're what? 30? 35? On average, you'll live another 40 years or so. That's 40 years of trolling on message boards and generally wasting the air and resources we all need for the betterment of no-one. If the vaccine takes you early (which has happened to exactly no one at the moment, but could conceivably happen at some point), those are valuable resources someone more worthy can use. Plus, as an added benefit, you'll contribute to herd immunity, helping taking out this virus and saving countless more lives. When you think about it like that, it's a no brainer. Sorry, Van, flattery isn't going to get you anywhere now after you called me a name earlier. The answer is still no.
May 4, 20215 yr 26 minutes ago, rambo said: There are families out there struggling to eat. Seriously. This is what food insecurity looks like. Because when you finally get food, when you aren't used to eating square meals all the time, you gorge yourself. You don't know where the next meal is coming from. Also you'll eat crap food that isn't good for you, because you don't know what food you will be able to get next.
May 4, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, Kz! said: Sorry, Van, flattery isn't going to get you anywhere now after you called me a name earlier. The answer is still no. I'm just trying to help. 40 years of trolling and stocking shelves vs. the sweet relief of the afterlife? Seems like a win-win.
May 4, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, toolg said: Seriously. This is what food insecurity looks like. Because when you finally get food, when you aren't used to eating square meals all the time, you gorge yourself. You don't know where the next meal is coming from. Also you'll eat crap food that isn't good for you, because you don't know what food you will be able to get next. Jesus.
May 4, 20215 yr In all seriousness Kz, my wife and I and our teen-age daughter all have gotten both shots. Only our 11-year-old daughter hasn’t gotten hers yet. You’ll be fine, man.
May 4, 20215 yr 21 minutes ago, Kz! said: Interesting, might be fun to get the vaccine just so I can feel what that's like, you know? Dave actually just convinced me to get it one post up, but since you called me a name, I'm not going to now. I fully support you in not getting any life saving medicines of any kind.
May 4, 20215 yr Do we all agree that people who don't get vaccinated should be dropped from their health insurance? None of us want to pay for freeloaders to milk us to pay for expensive treatment of a disease when a cheap solution is available.
May 4, 20215 yr 7 minutes ago, Kz! said: Jesus. I'm speechless. Guess her uber eats driver was running 10 minutes late with her 4th dinner.
May 4, 20215 yr 2 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: In all seriousness Kz, my wife and I and our teen-age daughter all have gotten both shots. Only our 11-year-old daughter hasn’t gotten hers yet. You’ll be fine, man. Oh yeah, my whole family, my wife's family, and my wife have all gotten it. My wife had a pretty bad reaction to the second dose with chills and a temp of 101 the night of the second dose and for most of the two days after. Pretty much every young person I know that's had the vaccine had a similar reaction and all the older people I know had no symptoms. I'm not really afraid it will kill me or anything, I'd just prefer seeing the more long term effects of it before I get one. I was especially turned off by talks of a 3rd booster shot later in the year. That and I really don't feel like feeling sick for a few days because of it. Eff all that noise. Seems like a lot of hassle for something I can avoid by practicing good hygiene and staying away from sick people. And, again, if I happen to get it, there's little chance I'll become seriously ill. Plus it makes Van mad, so there's a lot of checks in the pros column, you know?
May 4, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, Kz! said: Oh yeah, my whole family, my wife's family, and my wife have all gotten it. My wife had a pretty bad reaction to the second dose with chills and a temp of 101 the night of the second dose and for most of the two days after. Pretty much every young person I know that's had the vaccine had a similar reaction and all the older people I know had no symptoms. I'm not really afraid it will kill me or anything, I'd just prefer seeing the more long term effects of it before I get one. I was especially turned off by talks of a 3rd booster shot later in the year. That and I really don't feel like feeling sick for a few days because of it. Eff all that noise. Seems like a lot of hassle for something I can avoid by practicing good hygiene and staying away from sick people. And, again, if I happen to get it, there's little chance I'll become seriously ill. Plus it makes Van mad, so there's a lot of checks in the pros column, you know? You agree with this though, right? 13 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Do we all agree that people who don't get vaccinated should be dropped from their health insurance? None of us want to pay for freeloaders to milk us to pay for expensive treatment of a disease when a cheap solution is available.
May 4, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, VanHammersly said: You agree with this though, right? No, of course not.
May 4, 20215 yr Just now, Kz! said: No, of course not. Why should everyone pay for your unhealthy lifestyle?
May 4, 20215 yr Just now, VanHammersly said: Why should everyone pay for your unhealthy lifestyle? You just crushed universal healthcare argument in one statement.
May 4, 20215 yr 2 minutes ago, rambo said: You just crushed universal healthcare argument in one statement. Well, I'm assuming that Kz disagrees with universal healthcare, so it stands to reason that he would agree that his healthcare should be dropped as long as he avoids vaccination.
May 4, 20215 yr 2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Well, I'm assuming that Kz disagrees with universal healthcare, so it stands to reason that he would agree that his healthcare should be dropped as long as he avoids vaccination. Or maybe he's willing to pay more on his individual policy for him taken the increased health risk. His body, his choice. I doubt they would deem it un-insurable since that would set a precedent to drop every person who has a condition that makes them high risk like obesity. That's something that can be avoided to with some simple effort and self control. Dems fought hard so no one could be denied insurance.
May 4, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, rambo said: Or maybe he's willing to pay more on his individual policy for him taken the increased health risk. His body, his choice. I doubt they would deem it un-insurable since that would set a precedent to drop every person who has a condition that makes them high risk like obesity. That's something that can be avoided to with some simple effort and self control. Dems fought hard so no one could be denied insurance. The problem is, aside from probably smoking, nothing compounds costs for the insurance companies like not getting the vaccine. Because you're not just increasing the cost to treat yourself, but you're increasing the cost to treat everyone that you may infect. And, I'd say it even eclipses smoking because by not getting the vaccine, you're fighting against herd immunity and ensuring that the virus sticks around and the cost to the insurers extends well into the future. You'd truly have to be a worthless freeloader to not get this vaccine.
May 4, 20215 yr 5 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: The problem is, aside from probably smoking, nothing compounds costs for the insurance companies like not getting the vaccine. Because you're not just increasing the cost to treat yourself, but you're increasing the cost to treat everyone that you may infect. And, I'd say it even eclipses smoking because by not getting the vaccine, you're fighting against herd immunity and ensuring that the virus sticks around and the cost to the insurers extends well into the future. You'd truly have to be a worthless freeloader to not get this vaccine. So salty. How about this, I'm never getting it now. In your effing face!
May 4, 20215 yr 1 hour ago, Kz! said: Vaccines never scare me. It's the blood clots and accidental paralysis that keep me up at night. Do you get the flu shot?
May 4, 20215 yr 12 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: The problem is, aside from probably smoking, nothing compounds costs for the insurance companies like not getting the vaccine. Because you're not just increasing the cost to treat yourself, but you're increasing the cost to treat everyone that you may infect. And, I'd say it even eclipses smoking because by not getting the vaccine, you're fighting against herd immunity and ensuring that the virus sticks around and the cost to the insurers extends well into the future. You'd truly have to be a worthless freeloader to not get this vaccine. I'd argue obesity trumps both. And I say this as a man with a rockin' dad bod.
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