May 7, 20214 yr 14 hours ago, EaglesRocker97 said: 580,000 dead Americans and counting. Glad you find that funny. People die every day. Nothing sad or funny about it. What is funny are the actions and reactions surrounding the Kung flu and the vaccine hysteria. No idea of the long term effects. No idea how long these "vaccines" are effective. The manufacturers are shielded from liability. But having that unproven, experimental crap pumped into your arm is "patriotic"? BS. I'll be interested in the effects it may have on the younger generation and their offspring.
May 7, 20214 yr 6 hours ago, mr_hunt said: https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/analysis-half-of-global-coronavirus-deaths-unreported/ar-BB1gqSQ8?li=BBnb7Kz The real count of global deaths caused by the coronavirus is more than double the number officially reported, according to a new analysis. Researchers at the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation analyzed excess mortality numbers and found about 6.9 million global fatalities from the virus. The current count reported by Johns Hopkins University's COVID-19 dashboard is over 3.2 million deaths. "Pretty much we're seeing an undercount everywhere," Christopher Murray, IHME director, said during a press briefing. Almost every country has significantly underreported its deaths, according to the analysis. The analysis found that the U.S. still has the highest death toll of any country. But instead of the country's official toll of nearly 580,000 lives lost, it is actually over 900,000, according to the analysis. That number would put the U.S. well over the death toll from the 1918 flu pandemic, which was estimated to be about 675,00 lives. Murray detailed reasons for why countries are underreporting coronavirus deaths, including missing cases unintentionally as health care systems come under pressure and lack of adequate testing to identify COVID-19-caused deaths. But some countries have such a large disparity in the numbers that "there likely is something else going on – something around either coding practice by physicians or recommendations on the statistical front," Murray said. Researchers performed the analysis by calculating excess mortality, which is the number of deaths beyond what would be expected based on pre-pandemic trends. They adjusted the excess deaths to account for certain factors like the impact of decreased access to health care during the pandemic and lower traffic deaths due to less mobility. Murray said that "if anything, the estimates that we have now of the total [COVID-19] death rate are undercounts" because researchers did not factor in the surprisingly low death count from the flu this season into their mortality calculations. Instead of Brazil following the U.S. as the second-highest reported death toll, the actual count would put India as second, Murray said. India, which reports roughly 230,000 deaths from the virus, has a death toll over 650,000, according to the analysis. The country has been accused of underreporting cases and deaths as it sees an unprecedented coronavirus surge. Mexico follows India with similar numbers – 218,000 official deaths but 617,000 in the report. Russia is the most underreported nation with a difference of over 480,000 deaths between its official death toll of 110,000 deaths and the analysis' estimate of more than 590,000 fatalities. Researchers also found a stark difference in Egypt's numbers with the country reporting over 13,000 deaths but the analysis estimating the toll to be roughly 170,000. IHME predicts that the global coronavirus death toll will rise to 9.4 million by September, with India surpassing the U.S. as the country with the highest death toll. If you could get even close to an accurate count out of China, I‘d bet that it would be a lot higher than that.
May 7, 20214 yr 9 minutes ago, The_Omega said: If you could get even close to an accurate count out of China, I‘d bet that it would be a lot higher than that. Quote The analysis found that the U.S. still has the highest death toll of any country. But instead of the country's official toll of nearly 580,000 lives lost, it is actually over 900,000, according to the analysis. That number would put the U.S. well over the death toll from the 1918 flu pandemic, which was estimated to be about 675,00 lives. The US also had less than 1/3 of the population that it has today
May 7, 20214 yr 8 hours ago, Brianfive said: But it’s voter suppression if your required to have one of these to vote....😳 imagine that
May 7, 20214 yr 4 hours ago, jsdarkstar said: Yeah, because none of those other ID Requirements on the list, are in the Constitution, but Voting is. It's a Fundamental Right. Why does this idiocy continue. Once again: there is no Constitutional right to vote.
May 7, 20214 yr 14 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Why does this idiocy continue. Once again: there is no Constitutional right to vote. I know what you're getting at, but the 15th Amendment pretty explicitly mentions it: Quote The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.
May 7, 20214 yr You can’t be denied the vote based on race, gender, inability to pay a poll tax or age (if 18 or older). That’s it. Otherwise, eligibility is up to the states. There is no universal right to vote.
May 7, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, vikas83 said: You can’t be denied the vote based on race, gender, inability to pay a poll tax or age (if 18 or older). That’s it. Otherwise, eligibility is up to the states. There is no universal right to vote. This is right. And each state has its own constitution, some of which are 100 or 200 years old. What I find a little funny is the conservative argument that states couldn’t vote by mail because it wasn’t in their Constitution. I think this was the crux of the attack on PA
May 7, 20214 yr 11 hours ago, lynched1 said: People die every day. Nothing sad or funny about it. What is funny are the actions and reactions surrounding the Kung flu and the vaccine hysteria. No idea of the long term effects. No idea how long these "vaccines" are effective. The manufacturers are shielded from liability. But having that unproven, experimental crap pumped into your arm is "patriotic"? BS. I'll be interested in the effects it may have on the younger generation and their offspring. I'm interested in the effects of learning on idiots, but you don't seem capable of learning.
May 7, 20214 yr 8 hours ago, Dave Moss said: This is right. And each state has its own constitution, some of which are 100 or 200 years old. What I find a little funny is the conservative argument that states couldn’t vote by mail because it wasn’t in their Constitution. I think this was the crux of the attack on PA Vote by mail was passed by the Republican legislature and signed into law by the Democratic governor in 2019, predating the pandemic. What Republicans objected to was how the state administered vote by mail for the 2020 election. They challenged various policies put in place by the Democratic led executive branch and won one but lost most challenges when the PA SC mostly sided with the Executive branch. Republicans were still salty about it, but the fact of the matter is millions voted in good faith based on the rules that were in place, and even if some ruling came out after the election that some of the policies ran afoul of the law (which hasn't happened, just a hypothetical) the election would stand because it was conducted in good faith based on the interpretation of the law at the time. Some Republicans are just whiny bishes - worse than ANY triggered lefty after Hillary lost - who didn't want to accept that their guy lost fair and square.
May 7, 20214 yr 15 hours ago, downundermike said: Maybe it's the camera angle, but lane doesn't look very swole in that picture. Thought I was looking at Spadaro for a second.
May 7, 20214 yr On 5/6/2021 at 8:10 AM, Dawkins 20 said: First shot is booked for the 19th! I was able to get this moved up to tomorrow. Looks like I'll be getting the Pfizer shot. If I feel like ish afterwards does that mean the microchips are working or not working?
May 7, 20214 yr 12 hours ago, vikas83 said: Why does this idiocy continue. Once again: there is no Constitutional right to vote. For all the Morons who believe there is no Constitutional right to vote. (Are you now going to tell me that Amendments are not part of the Constitution?) Art. 1 Sec. 2. The House of Representatives shall be chosen every second year by the people of the several states. The 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution grants full citizenship rights, including voting rights, to all men born or naturalized in the United States. 15th Amendment: Sec. 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote Shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any state on account of race, color or previous condition of servitude. 17th Amendment: Article 1. The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each state, elected by the people thereof. 19th Amendment: Article 1. The right of citizens of the United Sates to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of Sex. 26th Amendment: Section 1. The right of Citizens of the United States, who are 18 years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age. Citizens also voted to elect George Washington.
May 7, 20214 yr Yeah, none of that demonstrates a right to vote for all citizens, because...spoiler alert...it doesn't exist. If all citizens have the right to vote, and women were US citizens before 1920, why did we need the 18th amendment? If all citizens have the right to vote, and children are citizens, why can't those below 18 vote? You should leave the discussion to the adults.
May 7, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, vikas83 said: Yeah, none of that demonstrates a right to vote for all citizens, because...spoiler alert...it doesn't exist. If all citizens have the right to vote, and women were US citizens before 1920, why did we need the 18th amendment? If all citizens have the right to vote, and children are citizens, why can't those below 18 vote? You should leave the discussion to the adults. All citizens do have a right to vote (except in explicit circumstances), as referenced in numerous amendments, but as you said, the conditions under which they may exercise that right are largely left to the states. I don't think anyone is arguing that ID laws are unconstitutional, at least I never would. I just have a problem with the way they are being used by Republicans to disenfranchise certain segments of the population who don't vote for them. As long as the IDs are free and easily obtainable, I guess I don't have an issue with it. Many European countries have some kind of ID laws. There are limited cases, though, where citizens don't have the right documentation, like they lost a birth certificate, and it can be very difficult to get these documents for some people, particularly older folks who have trouble getting their hospital records. So, I think we agree, I just don't know why you're trying to frame this as "There is no right to vote!" You sound like TEW-lite, lol.
May 7, 20214 yr The right to vote isn't explicit, it's an implied right as part of citizenship in the 14th. But also implied in the 14th is that states have wide latitude in how they can abridge the right to vote. Later amendments made unconstitutional the use of race, being a former slave, being a woman, or age as a basis for denying the right to vote, but it didn't change the basic underlying understanding that states have a lot of independence in determining who can and who cannot vote. So is it a right? It's a right of citizenship to a degree, yes, but one that can be abridged by states and as such it's not nearly as universal as those listed in the Bill of Rights for example. It's more of a privilege of citizenship that can be denied based on bad behavior.
May 7, 20214 yr 45 minutes ago, Kz! said: @Joe Shades 73 thoughts? So glad we have these well qualified athletes to tell us all this stuff. I mean, how else would we know anything about a deadly virus if it weren’t for these experts. It’s not like we have anyone who spent 10 years in school to learn about it and dedicate their lives to researching these viruses. Thank god the nba exists, their saving lives every day.
May 7, 20214 yr 3 hours ago, Toastrel said: I'm interested in the effects of learning on idiots, but you don't seem capable of learning. I learn new crap everyday. Today I've learned you seem very insecure. Challenging your willingness to shoot unproven chemicals into your body like a heroin junkie seems to threaten you. 😉
May 7, 20214 yr 7 minutes ago, lynched1 said: I learn new crap everyday. Today I've learned you seem very insecure. Challenging your willingness to shoot unproven chemicals into your body like a heroin junkie seems to threaten you. 😉 This might be one of the dumbest takes I have ever heard. How do you function on a day-to-day basis?
May 7, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, jsdarkstar said: For all the Morons who believe there is no Constitutional right to vote. (Are you now going to tell me that Amendments are not part of the Constitution?) Art. 1 Sec. 2. The House of Representatives shall be chosen every second year by the people of the several states. The 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution grants full citizenship rights, including voting rights, to all men born or naturalized in the United States. 15th Amendment: Sec. 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote Shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any state on account of race, color or previous condition of servitude. 17th Amendment: Article 1. The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each state, elected by the people thereof. 19th Amendment: Article 1. The right of citizens of the United Sates to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of Sex. 26th Amendment: Section 1. The right of Citizens of the United States, who are 18 years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age. Citizens also voted to elect George Washington. The constitution doesn’t give you the right to vote. What it does do, through the amendments, is make sure if you’re a woman, minority, slave, etc that states can’t deny you the same opportunity to vote based on that, because, our forefathers said that ALL men (and women) are created equal. So the amendments make sure that every race, color, and gender is treated equally in regards to voting. But it has never and will never give you the right to vote. the states that are trying to force voter ID laws and make people register and jump through all these hoops are attempting to disenfranchise their citizens, which is where the "that’s unconstitutional” debate comes in. Technically asking for an ID isn’t, but in a roundabout way could be because it makes it more difficult for a certain group to vote which in essence violates one of the constitutional amendments. this is like basic 7th grade world culture class material. Didnt anyone go to school?
May 7, 20214 yr 34 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: The right to vote isn't explicit The 15th and 19th Amendments explicitly reference "the right of the citizens of the United States to vote." No rights are absolute, though, and can be regulated or restricted in limited instances. 34 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: It's more of a privilege of citizenship that can be denied based on bad behavior. At best, this statement is highly debatable and fraught with Constitutional dilemmas.
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