May 11, 20215 yr 2 hours ago, DBW said: He’s talking like their going to give people a Fing choice. Yeah if people want to wear masks, ok, don't see the problem
May 11, 20215 yr 59 minutes ago, Gannan said: I didn't get sick at all this winter. Same with everyone I know. Not everyone acts like an overgrown toddler when it comes to taking a small step for health. That seems to be a Trumpbot thing. Drama queen.
May 11, 20215 yr Just now, lynched1 said: Drama queen. One side of this equation is very dramatic and it isn't mine. You anti-maskers are very normal.
May 11, 20215 yr 7 minutes ago, Gannan said: One side of this equation is very dramatic and it isn't mine. You anti-maskers are very normal. News flash sport. Wearing a mask isn't normal.
May 11, 20215 yr 3 hours ago, EaglesRocker97 said: This is the cultural norm in many parts of Asia when one is sick. It's wishful thinking on Fauci's part, but it's not insane to think we could benefit from generally wearing masks when you're ill and around other people. We 100% should but definitely won't. Flu numbers took a nosedive this year, it was great. People also need to stay the F home when they're sick too instead of toughing it out and infecting their whole damn social circle/school/office etc.
May 11, 20215 yr 2 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: We 100% should but definitely won't. Flu numbers took a nosedive this year, it was great. People also need to stay the F home when they're sick too instead of toughing it out and infecting their whole damn social circle/school/office etc. I find it funny that ultimately the idea of a "miasma" was more or less accurate.
May 11, 20215 yr 12 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: I love these hippies who put every kind of questionably sourced drug imaginable into their bodies but then are like "YoU dOn'T kNoW wHaT's In tHe VaCcInE!!!"
May 11, 20215 yr 4 hours ago, Gannan said: One side of this equation is very dramatic and it isn't mine. You anti-maskers are very normal. The Jewish LowIQanon spokesperson (@5:10) wired straight to the White House was my favorite.
May 11, 20215 yr 11 hours ago, lynched1 said: News flash sport. Wearing a mask isn't normal. But still better than getting COVID. Except to the feeble minded, like you.
May 11, 20215 yr 14 hours ago, The_Omega said: Rereading it, if it’s entirely up to the individual, and you don’t have Karen’s and Ron’s screaming at those who elect not to, fine. Getting sick is not entirely bad though. We need to in order for our immune systems to develop. Unless you die or develop complications. Then getting sick isn't really that good.
May 11, 20215 yr I'm a firm believer in the hygiene hypothesis, but I'm not sure that persistent exposure and immunocalibration does us that much good (at least when it comes to viral antigens) outside of that 2-3 year window as toddlers when it was critically important. As an aging adult, you're pretty much dealing with old machinery that can't be retooled so easily.
May 11, 20215 yr 12 hours ago, Gannan said: One side of this equation is very dramatic and it isn't mine. You anti-maskers are very normal. lmfao, this has to be a parody account. Ishlibs: One side of this equation is very dramatic and it isn't mine! Also ishlibs: Got my second dose of the vaccine and it feels so good to finally be able to hug members of my own family after more than a year.
May 11, 20215 yr 11 minutes ago, Kz! said: lmfao, this has to be a parody account. Ishlibs: One side of this equation is very dramatic and it isn't mine! Also ishlibs: Got my second dose of the vaccine and it feels so good to finally be able to hug members of my own family after more than a year. Says the guy still whining over losing an election 7 months later.
May 11, 20215 yr 5 minutes ago, Gannan said: Says the guy still whining over losing an election 7 months later. What a comeback! Don't forget to double mask when you go out today!
May 11, 20215 yr Just now, Kz! said: What a comeback! Don't forget to double mask when you go out today! Like he'd have the courage to leave
May 11, 20215 yr Just now, Kz! said: What a comeback! Don't forget to double mask when you go out today!
May 11, 20215 yr 1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said: I'm a firm believer in the hygiene hypothesis, but I'm not sure that persistent exposure and immunocalibration does us that much good (at least when it comes to viral antigens) outside of that 2-3 year window as toddlers when it was critically important. As an aging adult, you're pretty much dealing with old machinery that can't be retooled so easily. I don’t know about that. there are allergy studies being done to show that slow, gradual exposure to things you’ve been allergic to can actually teach you body to not be allergic. Mostly these are around foods. I would think that if your body can learn to not be allergic to things later in life that our immune systems can also learn to protect us later in life as well. We are constantly being exposed to new germs and viruses so if that wasnt the case, we’d all be dead by now.
May 11, 20215 yr 6 minutes ago, DBW said: I don’t know about that. there are allergy studies being done to show that slow, gradual exposure to things you’ve been allergic to can actually teach you body to not be allergic. Mostly these are around foods. I would think that if your body can learn to not be allergic to things later in life that our immune systems can also learn to protect us later in life as well. We are constantly being exposed to new germs and viruses so if that was t the case, we’d all be dead by now. Legumes and shellfish =/= viral antigens, but even then, look at how difficult it is to reduce the level of anaphylaxis later in life. The point being, exposure is critical when young, less so when older. By then, you've kinda missed the boat a bit and it's far more challenging to course correct. If you truly believe that getting the flu once every few years is good for you, then by all means, have at it. I, on the other hand, will be doing my best to avoid it, and surely not based on some notion that it'll be like a tune up for my body.
May 11, 20215 yr 6 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Legumes and shellfish =/= viral antigens, but even then, look at how difficult it is to reduce the level of anaphylaxis later in life. The point being, exposure is critical when young, less so when older. By then, you've kinda missed the boat a bit and it's far more challenging to course correct. If you truly believe that getting the flu once every few years is good for you, then by all means, have at it. I, on the other hand, will be doing my best to avoid it, and surely not based on some notion that it'll be like a tune up for my body. No I’m not saying that exposure to the flu or other things is good for you and we should just not have any protection. Im just saying our bodies have a built in immune system for a reason and to a certain degree will fight things off, even if it’s new and later in life. Now the flip side is We basically didn’t have a flu season this past year because of mask wearing, and the danger to that is now we have less natural immunity to it. The common flu may be more deadly next season because of the lack of exposure.
May 11, 20215 yr 5 minutes ago, DBW said: No I’m not saying that exposure to the flu or other things is good for you and we should just not have any protection. Im just saying our bodies have a built in immune system for a reason and to a certain degree will fight things off, even if it’s new and later in life. Now the flip side is We basically didn’t have a flu season this past year because of mask wearing, and the danger to that is now we have less natural immunity to it. The common flu may be more deadly next season because of the lack of exposure. That's somewhat a possibility at some point, sure. Though I think it'll likely take quite a few years at least, people often go decades between getting the flu.
May 11, 20215 yr 10 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: That's somewhat a possibility at some point, sure. Though I think it'll likely take quite a few years at least, people often go decades between getting the flu. True. And the other variable is what has the flu done as far as mutation in the last year that were virtually unaware of because the lack of cases to review. I haven’t had the flu since probably college so maybe 20 years and I’ve gotten a flu shot like 6-7x in that span, maybe mostly when our kids were very young. So it will be interesting to see what happens with the flu this year and how much our naturally immunity has diminished over the last 18-20 months
May 11, 20215 yr 18 minutes ago, DBW said: True. And the other variable is what has the flu done as far as mutation in the last year that were virtually unaware of because the lack of cases to review. I haven’t had the flu since probably college so maybe 20 years and I’ve gotten a flu shot like 6-7x in that span, maybe mostly when our kids were very young. So it will be interesting to see what happens with the flu this year and how much our naturally immunity has diminished over the last 18-20 months I'm not too worried about it. From a public health standpoint, it's still a net benefit if we reduce flu deaths as much as possible in the interim. Any waning in collective immunity is marginal compared to the mitigation efforts sparing lives of the young and elderly. And even after a few years, I still highly doubt you'd see a resurgence that would "make up for lost time" so to speak.
May 11, 20215 yr 2 hours ago, DBW said: I don’t know about that. there are allergy studies being done to show that slow, gradual exposure to things you’ve been allergic to can actually teach you body to not be allergic. Mostly these are around foods. I think it can work both ways. Overexposure to certain foods in youth has also been associated with allergies later in life, especially when linked with exposure to hormones in the foods produced by big agriculture. I was recently reading, though, that some scientists think that increased prevalence of childhood food allergies might be at least partially due to overuse of antibiotics. Basically, your body has been insulated from so many pathogens that the immune system hasn't been conditioned to exposure. It's basically inactive, so when it is exposed to a foreign substance, like lactose or tree nuts, it reacts violently to the introduction of a foreign substance.
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