May 7, 20215 yr 6 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: JFC, the Constitution explicitly states reasons that you cannot be denied the right to vote. You could've originally considered this an implied right, but later on, we wrote amendments to make it explicit. Now, if you're arguing that the right is not absolute and that I can be regulated, you'll get no argument here, but the repetitive statement that "ThErE iS nO rIgHt to vOtE" is demonstrably false. It looks like the alt-right propagabda is working well and has gotten to so-called CVON libertarians. What a shame Yeah, but in all fairness, I only spent 6 years lf postsecondary education studying history, so maybe we need to get a PhD in here. Ironically, you are trying to make an argument about Constitutionality by refrencing the Declaration of Independence, which is legally irrelevant to the discussion. Who needs to go to school again? Show me where the constitution lists the qualifications for individuals to vote. It doesn’t. Like has already been said the amendments make sure that no states can make a list of people who can’t vote like blacks or women. there’s no far right anything in my response so keep your attempted labeling of me to yourself.
May 7, 20215 yr 50 minutes ago, Paul852 said: This might be one of the dumbest takes I have ever heard. How do you function on a day-to-day basis? Just taking a guess, far better than you. 😉
May 7, 20215 yr 6 minutes ago, lynched1 said: Just taking a guess, far better than you. 😉 Probably not.
May 7, 20215 yr Just now, Paul852 said: Probably not. I'm happy for you as long as you're happy with where you're at.😉
May 7, 20215 yr 32 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: JFC, the Constitution explicitly states reasons that you cannot be denied the right to vote. You could've originally considered this an implied right, but later on, we wrote amendments to make it explicit. Now, if you're arguing that the right is not absolute and that it can be regulated/altered, you'll get no argument here, but the repetitive statement that "ThErE iS nO rIgHt to vOtE" is demonstrably false. It looks like the alt-right propaganda is working like a charm and has gotten to so-called CVON libertarians. What a shame Yeah, but in all fairness, I only spent 6 years of postsecondary education studying history, so maybe we need to get a PhD in here. Ironically, you are trying to make an argument about Constitutionality by refrencing the Declaration of Independence, which is legally irrelevant to the discussion. Who needs to go to school again? There isn't an absolute right to vote. If there were a right for all citizens to vote, then we wouldn't need the 15th, 19th, 24th or 26th amendments. If all citizens had the right to vote, then kids could vote (unless you argue the 24th gave the right to stop kids). If the state of Alabama passed a law that only land owners could vote, it wouldn't be Unconstitutional. You could argue it violated the 14th amendment, or it was akin to a poll tax and violated the 24th, but it isn't on its face an illegal law. Hell, most states ban convicted felons from voting. They are CITIZENS that are denied the ability to vote. And why is this Constitutional...BECAUSE THERE IS NO ABSOLUTE RIGHT TO VOTE IN THE CONSTITUTION. It's not that friggin hard to understand.
May 7, 20215 yr 8 minutes ago, vikas83 said: THERE IS NO ABSOLUTE RIGHT TO VOTE IN THE CONSTITUTION. Correct, but that wasn't the original statement. Now you've added the modifier "absolute," so we agree, lol. Like pretty much any right, it can be regulated, so, like I said, I'm fine with the Constitutionality of ID laws in theory, as long as they are fairly implemented.
May 7, 20215 yr I don't think the issue of disenfranchising felons is unconstitutional, but it should be. If you've repaid your debt to society, all rights should be restored.
May 7, 20215 yr 2 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Correct, but that wasn't the original statement. Now you've added the modifier "absolute," so we agree, lol. Like pretty much any right, it can be regulated, so, like I said, I'm fine with the Constitutionality of ID laws in theory, as long as they are fairly implemented. Let me say it another way. You, as a citizen of the United States (assuming you are), do not have a right to vote. You can't be denied the ability to vote based on race, gender, age or ability to pay a poll tax. If your state said you can't vote if you aren't a net tax payer, that is not Unconstitutional. Now, there may be an argument that it violates the 14th or 24th amendment, but that would be subject to interpretation (FWIW, I don't think it does violate either). If a state passed a law saying you can't worship the devil, that would violate your right to practice the free exercise of religion is granted as a right in the first amendment. The regulation of rights you keep referring to is things like you can't scream fire in a crowded theater, because you infringe on the rights and safety of others. This isn't that hard. The founders explicitly excluded a right to vote and left it up to the states. We know this. 2 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: I don't think the issue of disenfranchising felons is unconstitutional, but it should be. If you've repaid your debt to society, all rights should be restored. For the record, I agree. The laws are stupid...but they are not Unconstitutional.
May 7, 20215 yr 5 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Vote by mail was passed by the Republican legislature and signed into law by the Democratic governor in 2019, predating the pandemic. What Republicans objected to was how the state administered vote by mail for the 2020 election. They challenged various policies put in place by the Democratic led executive branch and won one but lost most challenges when the PA SC mostly sided with the Executive branch. Republicans were still salty about it, but the fact of the matter is millions voted in good faith based on the rules that were in place, and even if some ruling came out after the election that some of the policies ran afoul of the law (which hasn't happened, just a hypothetical) the election would stand because it was conducted in good faith based on the interpretation of the law at the time. Some Republicans are just whiny bishes - worse than ANY triggered lefty after Hillary lost - who didn't want to accept that their guy lost fair and square. Riot Kitchen does it again! How does he remain so moderate? Truly remarkable! lmfao
May 7, 20215 yr 46 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: 🤡🌍 Wait, to the lab??? I thought these jack holes don’t believe in science? 😂
May 7, 20215 yr 3 hours ago, vikas83 said: There isn't an absolute right to vote. If there were a right for all citizens to vote, then we wouldn't need the 15th, 19th, 24th or 26th amendments. If all citizens had the right to vote, then kids could vote (unless you argue the 24th gave the right to stop kids). If the state of Alabama passed a law that only land owners could vote, it wouldn't be Unconstitutional. You could argue it violated the 14th amendment, or it was akin to a poll tax and violated the 24th, but it isn't on its face an illegal law. Hell, most states ban convicted felons from voting. They are CITIZENS that are denied the ability to vote. And why is this Constitutional...BECAUSE THERE IS NO ABSOLUTE RIGHT TO VOTE IN THE CONSTITUTION. It's not that friggin hard to understand. Just catching up. This should end the argument but I'm sure it will still go in circles.
May 7, 20215 yr On 5/6/2021 at 2:07 PM, mr_hunt said: The real count of global deaths caused by the coronavirus is more than double the number officially reported, according to a new analysis. Here's a little something to help you put thing in perspective
May 7, 20215 yr We have no rights, we are all slaves to the government and what they allow 19 minutes ago, EagleVA said: Here's a little something to help you put thing in perspective How many people die falling off the edge of the earth every day?
May 7, 20215 yr 15 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said: How many people die falling off the edge of the earth every day? As far as I know zero, but if I met you at the edge you'd be one falling jackarse.
May 7, 20215 yr 23 minutes ago, EagleVA said: As far as I know zero, but if I met you at the edge you'd be one falling jackarse. You go wait. I’ll be right there
May 7, 20215 yr 1 minute ago, Joe Shades 73 said: You go wait. I’ll be right there You know what's pathetic, you brain dead FE jokers don't even realize that you've been brainwashed to laugh and make fun of where you live. So tell me, how does it feel to be a brainwshed dumbarse that can't figure out something that a non-brainwashed child could?
May 7, 20215 yr 4 minutes ago, EagleVA said: You know what's pathetic, you brain dead FE jokers don't even realize that you've been brainwashed to laugh and make fun of where you live. So tell me, how does it feel to be a brainwshed dumbarse that can't figure out something that a non-brainwashed child could? I can’t answer that I have been brainwashed to not have feelings 33 minutes ago, EagleVA said: As far as I know zero, but if I met you at the edge you'd be one falling jackarse. Is there a fence?
May 7, 20215 yr 4 hours ago, DBW said: Wait, to the lab??? I thought these jack holes don’t believe in science? 😂 I don't think he understands he probably can't get the answers to what is in that vile at a meth lab
May 7, 20215 yr 4 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said: I can’t answer that I have been brainwashed to not have feelings Is there a fence? If believing the earth is flat means I don't have work tomorrow I might look into it lol. Otherwise who gives a rats ass what shape it is.
May 8, 20215 yr 26 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said: If believing the earth is flat means I don't have work tomorrow I might look into it lol. Otherwise who gives a rats ass what shape it is. While I'm not surprised you don't understand the ramifications, just know It's not a matter of believing the Earth is flat, it's a matter of knowing the Earth is flat, once you understand that you'll become awakened and you'll be begin questioning everything the "authorities" present to you, you know, like COVID-19.
May 8, 20215 yr 7 minutes ago, EagleVA said: While I'm not surprised you don't understand the ramifications, just know It's not a matter of believing the Earth is flat, it's a matter of knowing the Earth is flat, once you understand that you'll become awakened and you'll be begin questioning everything the "authorities" present to you, you know, like COVID-19. Holy ish. Get this guy some help
May 8, 20215 yr 2 hours ago, Joe Shades 73 said: Is there a fence? This is more of the brainwashing, when you hear Flat Earth that cartoon of water flowing over the edge and the like is what pops into your minuscule brain. Have you ever thought about why the Antarctic Treaty was put into effect? Sorry, my bad, you don't think. Well I've thought about it and the only thing I can come up with is there's a truth there they they don't want us to know about. So stop it with the edge conversation because no one knows what the story is with Antarctica other than it's not a continent at the bottom of a spinning globe.
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